Name: 誰才有辦法終結氣候危機？| RSA Journal Presents (Who really has the power to stop the climate crisis? | RSA Journal Presents)
Uploaded: 2026-02-05T18:19:21.000Z
Duration: 9 min 41 s

I think today everybody knows that the climate crisis is happening, from fires in LA to heat waves across Europe.

我覺得今天大家知道氣候危機正在發生，從洛杉磯的火災到歐洲的熱浪。

But the old ways of talking about it are not stopping it or changing it.

但過去談論它的方式並沒有阻止或改變它。

We've never had more information, we've never had clearer science.

我們從來沒有這麼多資訊，我們從來沒有這麼清晰的科學。

And for a long time the consensus within climate was, well, if people just know what's happening, then we'll be able to galvanize action.

而且長期以來，氣候界的共識是，嗯，如果大家知道正在發生什麼事，我們就能激勵行動。

Currently the science establishes that we're essentially on track for about 2.6 degrees of global heating by the end of the century.

目前科學指出，到本世紀末，我們實際上將面臨約 2.6 度的全球暖化。

It means, by conservative estimates, you know, a billion people being on the move due to climate change.

這意味著，保守估計，你知道，將有十億人因為氣候變遷而遷徙。

With that being said, we are in a, a better position than where we were before the Paris agreement.

儘管如此，我們現在的處境比巴黎協定之前要好。

So pre Paris agreement, we were on track for about 3.6 degrees of global heating.

所以在巴黎協定之前，我們預計將面臨約 3.6 度的全球暖化。

So we have brought things down and the rate of emissions is slowing and yet it's still on the increase.

所以我們已經有所改善，排放的速度正在減緩，但仍在增加。

Paris was undoubtedly this massive milestone.

巴黎協定無疑是個巨大的里程碑。

The fact that the 1.5 degree threshold was established and agreed upon was a tremendous political feat which many people didn't think was possible.

訂定並同意 1.5 度的門檻，這是一項了不起的政治成就，很多人覺得不可能。

In the wake of Paris, there was this flurry of commitments.

巴黎協定之後，出現了一連串的承諾。

And I think while, you know, governments were scrambling to appease angry citizens, a lot of corporations were also kind of afraid of missing the boat and so adopted a lot of language around climate, set these commitments, even though they were very far off.

我想，在政府忙著安撫憤怒的民眾時，許多公司也害怕錯失機會，於是開始採用許多關於氣候的說法，設定了這些承諾，即使它們離目標還很遠。

And even, you know, fossil fuel companies, the original architects of climate denial and delay, were suddenly parroting the words that were splashed across our placards.

甚至連那些氣候否認與延遲的始作俑者，化石燃料公司，也突然開始鸚鵡學舌地說著我們標語牌上的話。

I think a lot of companies have taken the mask off and that's largely been affected by what's happening geopolitically, especially with the reelection of Trump in the States.

我覺得很多公司都摘下了偽裝，這很大程度上受到地緣政治的影響，尤其是在川普再次當選美國總統之後。

From a kind of political context a few years ago, climate did feel like a top priority for a lot of politicians because there was that pressure coming from the people that since been superseded by, you know, things like immigration, scapegoating the trans community, a lot of kind of identity politics.

幾年前從政治角度來看，氣候確實是許多政治人物的首要考量，因為有來自民眾的壓力，但這壓力後來被移民、醜化跨性別社群、許多身份認同政治等議題取代了。

So naturally, climate, which is in many ways this kind of abstract, historically slow moving thing, it has slid down the ladder of what people have the capacity to kind of care about.

所以很自然地，氣候本身在許多方面是個抽象、進展緩慢的事物，它已經從人們關心的優先順序中滑落了。

I think this speaks to the broader challenge that we're up against when it comes to climate.

我認為這反映了我們在氣候議題上所面臨的更廣泛挑戰。

We've failed to interrogate systems of power, the idea that we can indefinitely grow our economies and yet we can do it in a system sustainable way.

我們未能深入探究權力體系，以及我們可以在一個可持續的方式下，無限期地發展經濟的這種想法。

It doesn't match up with a planet that has finite resources.

這和一個資源有限的星球不符。

The Earth is incredibly resilient and has taken everything that we've been throwing at it for decades, and

地球非常堅韌，幾十年來承受了我們丟給它的一切，

yet it's finally losing its capacity to replenish itself.

但它終於快要失去自我補充的能力了。

And so much of our economic theory is totally divorced from the material reality that we're living in.

我們的許多經濟理論，完全脫離了我們所處的物質現實。

Over the past decade, we've seen the largest power grab in history.

過去十年，我們見證了史上最大規模的權力掠奪。

Today we have 26 people who own the same wealth as the poorest, 3.8 billion.

現在有26個人擁有的財富，相當於最貧窮的38億人。

And so that's why we've not seen a meaningful increase in the people being pulled out of poverty for over three decades.

這就是為什麼三十多年來，脫離貧窮的人數沒有顯著增加。

So climate, it's been framed as degrees of heating and carbon and polar bears, which don't mean anything to the average person.

所以氣候議題，一直被描繪成升溫幾度、碳排放和北極熊，這些對一般人來說都沒有意義。

But we've also failed to talk about equity, talk about social justice, and

但我們也沒能談論公平、談論社會正義，

talk about how in pursuing solutions for climate, we have to be pursuing a more fair and equitable world for everyone.

談論為了氣候尋求解決方案時，我們必須同時追求一個更公平、更公正的世界。

I think the conversation about climate is caught very often in scientific terms that are real, that are important, not disputing the data or the science.

我覺得關於氣候的討論，常常陷入一些真實且重要的科學術語裡，我不是在質疑數據或科學。

We know about emissions, we know about carbon, we know all these things.

我們知道排放、知道碳、知道所有這些事情。

甚至連我自己都覺得沒有打動。

And I consider myself somebody who does care.

我也認為自己是個很關心這件事的人。

The Herds is a participatory public art piece that is questioning our effects on nature.

「The Herds」是一個參與式的公共藝術作品，它在質疑我們對大自然的影響。

It's a 20,000 kilometer journey of a herd of animals that are fleeing their natural habitat.

這是兩萬公里長的旅程，一群動物正在逃離牠們的自然棲息地。

They're created from cardboard and sustainable materials.

牠們是用紙板和永續材料製作的。

They leave the Congo basin and run north.

They go through West Africa, across the Mediterranean, and

牠們會經過西非，穿越地中海，然後

then from South Europe to the edge of Europe to the cliff in Nordkapp, which is the Arctic Circle.

從南歐一路走到歐洲的邊緣，挪威北角懸崖，那裡是北極圈。

They're fleeing natural disaster, they're fleeing the erosion of their world.

牠們正在逃離天災，逃離牠們世界的侵蝕。

They're reacting before we do, which is very common in animals.

牠們的反應比我們快，這在動物身上很常見。

We created big public art events in 27 cities in 11 countries.

我們在 11 個國家、27 個城市舉辦了大型公共藝術活動。

And in each city, we worked with hundreds of local participants to co create a very specific show that is right for that community.

在每個城市，我們都與數百名當地參與者合作，共同創作一個適合該社群的獨特表演。

And although we worked in many, many different cultures, in many different languages, and

雖然我們在許多不同的文化、許多不同的語言中工作，而且

each show is unique, what unites all of these shows is a story about climate crisis.

每一場表演都是獨一無二的，但將所有這些表演連結起來的，是一個關於氣候危機的故事。

And each of the city is experiencing a different version of climate crisis.

而且每個城市都在經歷不同版本的氣候危機。

From floods in Kinshasa in the Congo to heat waves in Northern Europe, my job is to put people in this uncomfortable place where they're asking a question.

從剛果金夏沙的洪水，到北歐的熱浪，我的工作就是讓大家處在一個不舒服的境地，開始思考一個問題。

And if they're running, are they running because of you?

而且如果牠們在逃跑，牠們是因為你而逃跑嗎？

We have to acknowledge that we're not going to solve the climate crisis with the same types of thinking that created it.

我們必須承認，我們無法用造成氣候危機的思維模式來解決它。

And so we need to remember who the enemy is.

所以我們需要記住，敵人是誰。

Who benefits from this polarization, from us hating one another, from us being in these political silos and echo chambers where we're incapable of having a conversation with someone who maybe we disagree with.

誰會從這種兩極分化中獲益，從我們互相憎恨中獲益，從我們處於這些政治孤島和迴聲室中無法與意見不同的人交談中獲益？

There's a piece of research that came out this year which found that 89% of people globally want their governments to take stronger action on the climate crisis.

今年有一項研究發現，全球有 89% 的人希望他們的政府在氣候危機上採取更強硬的行動。

Most people want action, most people believe in the science, and

大多數人都想要行動，大多數人都相信科學，

yet that majority believe that they're the minority.

然而，這個多數人卻認為自己是少數。

And that's where community and finding like minded people is such a powerful and important act of resistance and such a critical way to sustain your activism as well.

這就是為什麼社群連結和找到志同道合的人，是如此強大且重要的抵抗行為，也是維持你行動主義的關鍵方式。

Because while anxiety or fear or anger might be the emotions that catalyze you, they're very difficult feelings to kind of sustain long term.

因為雖然焦慮、恐懼或憤怒可能會激勵你，但這些情緒很難長期維持。

So you can touch on those emotions and dip into them.

所以你可以觸碰那些情緒，並稍微感受一下。

But ultimately it's the, the feeling of connection and joy that you get from doing something that has purpose, doing something that feels meaningful and getting to do it with people you love and respect.

但最終，是那種做有意義的事，感覺有目標，而且能和所愛敬重的人一起做，所帶來的連結和喜悅感，才能支撐我們。

That's what's going to sustain us through these movements, especially when it gets difficult.

這將會支撐我們度過這些運動，尤其是在困難的時候。

The herds took a very long journey and that journey collected hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands of people into collective action.

這群人走了一段很長的旅程，這段旅程匯集了數百、數千、數十萬人投入集體行動。

And it ends very dramatically and poetically at a cliff.

旅程以一個非常戲劇化且詩意的方式，在懸崖邊結束。

And the cliff is a metaphor, but the cliff is real.

而這個懸崖是個比喻，但懸崖是真實存在的。

With the journey ending there starts a very interesting question of what is the next phase?

旅程在那裡結束，引出了一個非常有趣的問題：下一階段是什麼？

And that's also why it's so important that this conversation is intersectional, so that we're not just talking about, okay, how do we protect nature?

這也是為什麼這個對話如此重要，必須是跨領域的，這樣我們就不只是在談論，好，我們要如何保護大自然？

We have to talk about class struggle, we have to talk about racial injustice, we have to talk about how do we actually make the society better for everyone.

我們得談談階級鬥爭，談談種族不公，談談我們該如何讓社會變得更好。

That's why I get really excited about climate solutions.

這也是為什麼我對氣候解決方案感到非常興奮。

Because when you go to real solutions that have the power to change our societies, they're not just offering to deliver benefits 20 or 30 years down the line.

因為當我們談到那些能改變社會的真正解決方案時，它們不只是承諾在二、三十年後帶來好處。

When we focus on things like moving to renewables in this country, that is a mechanism to lower people's energy bills.

當我們專注於像在這個國家轉向再生能源時，這就是降低大家電費的機制。

When we talk about growing more food in the UK and having a more resilient agricultural system, that's also how do we create more jobs in this country?

當我們談論要在英國種植更多食物，建立更有韌性的農業系統時，這也是如何創造更多工作機會？

So we have to be able to ground it in the things that people are scared about and worried about for their kids and their futures and their families, but

所以我們必須能夠將它紮根於人們擔憂和關心孩子、未來和家人的事情上，但

also the things that are going to meaningfully make people's lives better in the short term.

同時也要是那些能在短期內真正改善人們生活的事情。

My role as an artist is not to make sure people take actions.

我身為藝術家的角色，不是確保人們採取行動。

And what they do then with the feeling, I hope they go back to their community and go, let's think differently.

而他們接著如何處理這種感受，我希望他們能回到社群，然後說，讓我們換個方式思考。

At the end of the day, it's not a zoology study.

說到底，這不是一個動物學研究。

And I hope the cliff, the image of the cliff, the metaphor of the cliff, makes us understand that we will have to jump off that cliff.

我希望懸崖，懸崖的意象，懸崖的比喻，能讓我們明白我們必須跳下懸崖。

How do we mitigate the fact that there is no way back?

我們要怎麼減緩回不去的現實？

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