Name: 艾普斯坦文件震撼英國！柯林頓夫婦緊急達成協議將出庭作證！ (Epstein files rock UK as Clintons strike last-minute deal to testify)
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The Epstein files fallout once again spreading across the Atlantic to the uk.

Epstein files 的餘波再次擴散到大西洋，影響到英國。

Britain's former Ambassador to the United States, Peter Mandelson, is resigning from the upper house of Parliament over his ties to the late sex offender.

英國前美國大使 Peter Mandelson，因為與已故的性犯罪者有關聯，將辭去國會上議院職務。

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Even more stunning, one British royal is calling out another.

更令人震驚的是，一位英國王室成員在批評另一位。

Prince Edward did not directly mention his older brother Andrew, who has been stripped of his royal title over his Epstein ties.

英國愛德華王子沒有直接點名他的哥哥英國安德魯王子，後者因與 Epstein 的關聯已被剝奪王室頭銜。

但聽聽愛德華王子對 CNN 的評論。

And at a summit today, I'm not sure this is the audience that is probably the least bit interested in that.

而在今天的峰會上，我不確定這個聽眾是不是對這個最不感興趣的。

They all came here to listen to Education solving the future.

他們都來這裡是為了聽 教育 解決未來。

But no, I think it's really important always to remember the victims and who are the victims in all this.

但不，我認為一直記住受害者，以及這些事件中的受害者是真的很重要。

Andrew is facing more scrutiny after the latest document drop revealed this photo of him on the floor with an unidentified woman or girl.

在最新公佈的文件揭露了他與一名未指明身份的女子或女孩在地板上的照片後，英國安德魯王子正面臨更多審查。

And the photographs at this point do not suggest any wrongdoing.

而這些照片目前並沒有顯示任何不當行為。

Andrew has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing but obviously a lot of questions raised here.

英國安德魯王子一再否認有任何不當行為，但顯然這裡引發了很多問題。

CNN royal correspondent Max Foster is with us now from London.

CNN 王室記者 Max Foster 現在在倫敦連線。

Max, give us the latest on the fallout where you are.

Max，請告訴我們你那邊的最新發展。

Well, we've got lots of reports about Sarah Ferguson, Prince Andrew's ex wife, but

嗯，我們有很多關於 Sarah Ferguson，也就是英國安德魯王子前妻的報導，但

they were living together for a very long time and she had lots of relationships with Epstein as well coming out through these files.

她們住在一起很久了，而且透過這些 Epstein files，也揭露了她跟 Epstein 有很多關係。

So for example, she's talking about not having 20,000 pounds for rent.

舉例來說，她說她沒有兩萬英鎊可以付房租。

So a very deep relationship there, much bigger than we thought.

所以她們的關係很深厚，比我們想像的還要大。

Here in the UK the focus is much more on the former UK ambassador to the us, Peter Mandelson, because that has really rollercoaster today initially we heard a statement from the speaker of the House.

在英國，大家更關注的是前英國駐美大使 Peter Mandelson，因為今天真是跌宕起伏，一開始我們聽到了議長的一份聲明。

He read out a statement effectively from Peter Manson who's a member of the House of Lords.

他唸了一份聲明，實際上是來自 Peter Mandelson，他是上議院的成員。

My Lords, given the public interest and for the convenience of the House, I have decided to inform the House that the Clerk of the Parliaments has today received notification from Lord Mandelson of his intention to retire from the house effective from the 4th of February.

各位貴賓，考量到公眾的關注以及為了方便議會，我決定通知議會，議會書記官今天收到了 Mandelson 勳爵通知，他將於 2 月 4 日生效從議會退休。

I will formally notify this to the House tomorrow in the usual way.

我明天會以慣常方式正式通知議會。

So he leaves the House of Lords, he keeps his title of Lord.

所以他離開了貴賓院，但他保留了他的勳爵頭銜。

But in an extraordinary move, the Prime Minister has introduced legislation tonight calling for his title to be stripped from him too.

但出乎意料的是，總理今晚提出立法，要求剝奪他的頭銜。

This is because there were correspondence in the Epstein files between Epstein and Mandelson which suggests that Mandelson, as Business Secretary under Prime Minister Gordon Brown, was leaking internal government information, market sensitive information which Epstein could have used to make money effectively.

這是因為 Epstein files 中有 Epstein 和 Mandelson 之間的通信，顯示 Mandelson 在總理 Gordon Brown 領導下擔任商業大臣時，洩漏了 Epstein 可以用來賺錢的內部政府資訊和市場敏感資訊。

And the government launched an investigation very quickly found correspondence which they were alarmed about.

政府展開調查後，很快就發現了令他們感到震驚的通信。

Gordon Brown sent correspondence to the police as well.

Gordon Brown 也將通信移交給了警方。

And tonight in the last half hour, we've heard the British police are now investigating Peter Mandelson, the first criminal investigation coming out of this latest drop of Epstein files.

而今晚在過去的半小時裡，我們得知英國警方正在調查 Peter Mandelson，這是這次 Epstein files 文件公佈以來的第一起刑事調查。

Max Foster, thank you so much for the latest there.

Max Foster，非常感謝你帶來最新消息。

Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have reached a deal to testify in the House investigation of Jeffrey Epstein.

前總統 Bill Clinton 和前國務卿 Hillary Clinton 已達成協議，將在眾議院對 Jeffrey Epstein 的調查中作證。

The agreement means they will avoid a contempt of Congress vote.

這項協議意味著他們將避免一次國會藐視投票。

Sources telling CNN the Clintons will be deposed on February 26th and 27th.

消息人士告訴 CNN，Clinton 夫婦將於 2 月 26 日和 27 日接受訊問。

They want to answer the Oversight Committee's questions in a public hearing.

他們希望在公開聽證會上回答監督委員會的問題。

It's not clear if the Republican chair, Congressman James Comer, will accept that request.

共和黨主席、國會議員 James Comer 是否會接受這項請求，目前還不清楚。

President Clinton has never been accused of any wrongdoing with Epstein.

Clinton 總統從未被指控與 Epstein 有任何不當行為。

And his spokesman has said Clinton denies knowing of Epstein's crimes and cut off their relationship before they came to light.

他的發言人表示，Clinton 否認知道 Epstein 的罪行，並在罪行曝光前就斷絕了關係。

Last night, the deputy attorney general once again signaled there will likely be no further criminal charges.

昨晚，副總檢察長再次暗示，不太可能會有進一步的刑事指控。

It is not a crime to party with Mr. Epstein.

和 Epstein 先生一起開派對並不是犯罪。

And so as horrible as it is, it's not a crime to email with Mr. Epstein.

所以，儘管這很糟糕，但和 Epstein 先生通信也不是犯罪。

And some of these men may have done horrible things, and

而這些人當中有些人可能做了非常糟糕的事情，

if we have evidence that allows us to prosecute them, you better believe we will.

如果我們有證據可以起訴他們，相信我們一定會這麼做。

But it's also the kind of thing that the American people need to understand that it isn't a crime to party with Mr.

但這也是美國民眾需要了解的一件事，那就是和 Mr.

Epstein 一起開派對並不是犯罪。

Let's bring in Sarah Fitzpatrick of the Atlantic, an investigative reporter who has covered Jeffrey Epstein extensively.

讓我們請來大西洋雜誌的 Sarah Fitzpatrick，她是一位深入調查 Jeffrey Epstein 的記者。

And just first, what is your reaction there to what we heard from Todd Blanche and what are survivors telling you about it?

關於 Todd Blanche 的說法，以及受害者們告訴妳的內容，妳有什麼反應？

I mean, I think it's really hard to square what Todd Blanche is saying there versus what he has spent money on for the Justice Department of taking hundreds and hundreds of attorneys to review these documents to work overtime.

我覺得很難把 Todd Blanche 的說法，和他花費在司法部上的金錢對上，司法部動用了數百名律師來審閱這些文件，並加班加點。

Like, if there's no likely to be no charges, why was there such a huge commitment of resources, resources that have been pulled away from other violent crimes and other things that are in desperate need of law enforcement attention?

如果不太可能起訴，那為什麼要投入這麼多資源？這些資源本來可以用在其他暴力犯罪，以及其他迫切需要執法部門關注的案件上。

He says it's not a crime to party with Epstein.

他說和 Epstein 一起開派對不是犯罪。

But you've heard critics of what he's saying say it's very curious to party with Epstein or ask to go to his island or email with him after you know that he is a convicted pedophile.

但妳也聽過批評者說，在明知他是一名被定罪的戀童癖者後，還和他一起開派對、或者要求去他的島上、或寄信給他，這點非常令人費解。

And the DOJ should be more interested in.

So where does that leave things and why aren't they?

那這樣事情就變成怎樣了，為什麼沒有呢？

I think it's a very curious question that we have never gotten a good answer to.

我覺得這是一個很奇怪的問題，我們從來沒有得到一個好的答案。

This investigation, unfortunately, has been mishandled by multiple administrations, both Democratic and Republican, at the local level and at the federal level.

這項調查，不幸的是，在地方和聯邦層級，都曾被多個政府，無論是民主黨還是共和黨，處理不當。

And so what I think it reflects is a, you know, the Trump DOJ kind of came in that we're going to release these files.

所以我認為這反映了，你知道，川普的司法部進來時，我們說我們要公佈這些文件。

And now we're seeing that there have been no, as far as we can tell, no major law enforcement steps taken.

而現在我們看到，據我們所知，並沒有採取任何重大的執法行動。

你知道，舉個例子，柯林頓夫婦。

I was talking to sources who have said, no, the Clintons have never been questioned by law enforcement, which, of course, you need probable cause.

我有跟消息來源談過，他們說，沒有，柯林頓夫婦從來沒有被執法人員問過話，當然，這需要有相當理由。

You need, you know, certain steps need to be met before you would bring someone in for questioning.

你需要，你知道，在把某人帶進來問話之前，需要達到某些步驟。

But it suggests a kind of lack of interest and a lack of following all of those leads.

但這顯示了一種缺乏興趣，以及沒有追查所有這些線索。

Anyone who, especially because Epstein was charged and Maxwell were charged with trafficking, which means the moving of people for the purpose of sex, anyone who is at these parties, who had knowledge of their whereabouts, how communications were done, how the planning was, they have material information that would be important to investigators.

任何參加這些派對的人，尤其是因為 Epstein 和 Maxwell 被控人口販運，也就是為了性目的而移動人口，任何知道他們行蹤、溝通方式、計畫如何進行的人，他們都掌握了對調查人員很重要的實質資訊。

This was never really about getting answers, and

這從來都不是真的為了得到答案，

especially answers that might not reflect well on the Justice Department.

特別是那些可能不會讓司法部看起來太好的答案。

So what should lawmakers be interested in learning from the Clintons?

那麼，立法者應該從柯林頓夫婦身上學到什麼呢？

I think there's a lot to be learned about, you know, Epstein's behavior, his confidants, how he, you know, how he responded to allegations, questions about even how he made his money.

我認為有很多東西可以學，關於，你知道，Epstein 的行為、他的心腹、他如何，你知道，他如何回應指控，甚至關於他是如何賺錢的問題。

One of the things that has been so frustrating for me as an investigative reporter is we up until these files were released over the weekend, it was very unclear what Jeffrey Epstein did all day.

對我這個調查記者來說，一直以來令人沮喪的一件事是，直到這些文件在這個週末被公佈之前，我們都非常不清楚 Jeffrey Epstein 整天都在做什麼。

Now, I have a better sense, which is email a lot, but.

現在，我有了更好的概念，那就是大量收發電子郵件，但是。

And cultivate this network very deliberately.

並有計畫地培養這個人脈網絡。

But I think there's lotsanyone who was in his orbit, who understood who was involved, who may have had knowledge.

但我認為，在他周圍的任何人，那些瞭解誰牽涉其中、誰可能知情的人，都能學到很多。

It doesn't mean that they were aware of criminality, but

這不代表他們知道犯罪行為，但

it means that they have insight that might bring investigators towards people that did.

這代表他們有洞察力，可以引導調查人員找到那些犯罪的人。

And then on this issue of redactions, there is a hearing tomorrow, and

接著談到這些塗黑的部分，明天會有一個聽證會，

you have lawyers for victims saying, yeah, our victims sort of trusted DOJ to have all of these files put out, but

受害者的律師們說，是的，我們的受害者有點信任司法部會把這些文件都公佈出來，但是

you put out these files with a ton of their personal information in it.

你們卻把這些文件公佈出來，裡面卻有他們大量的個人資訊。

What's going to happen with the files and with what they're asking for, it's unclear.

這些文件會怎麼樣，以及他們要求的是什麼，目前還不清楚。

So there'll be a hearing tomorrow in New York, and

所以明天在紐約會有一場聽證會，

a judge will hear arguments from lawyers for the victims, as well as representatives from the government.

法官將聽取受害者律師以及政府代表的陳述。

I think it would be quite extraordinary to take down this volume of information once it has already been disseminated.

我認為一旦這些資訊已經散播出去，要將這麼大量的資訊撤下，會非常困難。

I think there's not a lot of great legal precedent for that.

我認為這方面的法律先例並不多。

However, it was a real, you know, there were so many months, there was so much time.

不過，這真的，你知道，有這麼多個月，這麼長的時間。

There were so many people who were involved in preparing for this release.

有這麼多人參與了這次文件公佈的準備工作。

And the fact that it is done so haphazardly indicates either a lack of attention or a kind of perhaps some other motive.

而且這次公佈得如此草率，顯示了不是缺乏注意，就是可能另有動機。

And I think that's what a hearing a judge will have to evaluate.

我認為這就是法官必須評估的地方。

Sarah Fitzpatrick, always great to get your insights on these new developments.

Sarah Fitzpatrick，很高興能聽到妳對這些新發展的見解。