Name: 川普成立「和平委員會」邀世界領袖！BBC新聞 (Donald Trump launches 'Board of Peace' with world leaders | BBC News)
Uploaded: 2026-01-22T17:10:50.000Z
Duration: 10 min 53 s

Let's take you to Christian Fraser, Davos.

帶您看到Christian Fraser，在Davos。

Christian, what an extraordinary couple of days we've had with these decisions being made that could affect large swathes of the world.

Christian，這幾天我們經歷了好多不尋常的時刻，做出的決定可能會影響世界大片區域。

Let's go through them, shall we, one by one.

And we should start with what's happened in the past few hours.

我們應該先從過去幾個小時發生的事情說起。

Take us through what we've actually learned about that this morning.

跟我們說說，我們今天早上到底學到了些什麼？

Well, I think you've characterized it very well.

嗯，我想你已經很精準地描述了。

It's been a dizzying few days here in Davos, and

這幾天在Davos真是讓人眼花繚亂，

the German Chancellor, Friedrich Metz, was talking about that this morning.

德國總理Friedrich Metz今天早上也在談論這件事。

The world order, he says, is changing at breath, at a breathtaking speed.

他說，世界秩序正在以驚人的速度改變。

And I guess an element of that is this Board of Peace, which some are concerned is replacing the mandate of the United nations and the overarching theme and responsibilities of the U.N.

我猜這其中一個元素就是這個和平委員會，有些人擔心它正在取代聯合國的任務以及聯合國的總體主題和責任。

i suppose, charitably, you could say that the president is a man of action.

我想，善意地說，你可以說總統是個行動派。

He is driving things forward on a whole range of issues.

他正在推動一系列議題的進展。

But one of the concerns, I think, all the way along here is under what mandate is he doing this?

但我認為，一路以來的一個擔憂是，他是依據什麼授權在做這件事？

And there's also a lack of detail, Lucy, wherever you look, in whatever he's driving, whether it be on the Middle east and Gaza, which of course, is fiendishly complicated, on Venezuela and how the oil is being sold and where the money goes and how it's reinvested.

而且，無論你看到什麼，無論他推動什麼，無論是中東和加薩（當然，這非常複雜），或是委內瑞拉以及石油如何銷售、資金流向何處、如何再投資，都缺乏細節。

On Ukraine, which we're told today is just one beat away from an agreement between Putin and Zelensky.

關於烏克蘭，我們今天被告知，普丁和澤倫斯基之間的協議只差一步。

And on Iran, a lot of detail that we don't know.

還有關於伊朗，有很多細節我們不知道。

And I think that is that is the concern, that a president who wants action is working outside the construct of the UN and providing us with not enough detail on how things will move forward and what sort of oversight there will be over that.

我認為這就是擔憂所在，一個想要行動的總統卻在聯合國的架構之外運作，並且沒有提供足夠的細節說明事情將如何推進，以及將會有什麼樣的監督。

But let's have a listen in the first instance to what he says about this Board of Peace and how it will operate.

但首先，讓我們聽聽他對這個和平委員會及其運作方式的說法。

And now we have one of the most important meetings of all, the official formation of what is known as the Board of Peace.

而現在，我們將迎來最重要的會議之一，正式成立所謂的和平委員會。

I want to thank Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner and their extraordinary work.

我要感謝國務卿 Marco Rubio、特使 Steve Witkoff 和 Jared Kushner 以及他們非凡的工作。

We've settled eight wars, and I believe another one's coming pretty soon.

我們已經解決了八場戰爭，我相信很快還會有另一場。

That is the one that I thought was going to be an easy one.

It's turned out to be probably the most difficult.

Last month, 29,000 people died, mostly soldiers.

上個月有兩萬九千人死亡，大多是阿兵哥。

29,000, 27,000 in the month before 26,000 in the month before that.

上個月兩萬九千人，前一個月兩萬七千人，再前一個月兩萬六千人。

But we have meetings where we think we're making a lot of progress.

但我們開會時，覺得進展很多。

China has said in the last hour that it has had an invitation to join the Board of Peace.

中國剛剛表示，他們收到了加入和平委員會的邀請。

The Americans are saying that President Putin, he's already agreed that he will join it.

美國方面說，普丁總統已經同意加入。

That is still to be confirmed, incidentally, by the Kremlin.

這件事，順帶一提，克里姆林宮還沒證實。

But are they going to be happy to sit alongside Donald Trump with him there as the chairman in a subordinate role, him there as the commander in chief, dictating what happens within the board of Peace?

但他們會開心跟唐納·川普坐在一起嗎？川普將擔任主席，而他則以總司令的身份，主導和平委員會裡的一切事務。

And then, of course, there is the Europeans.

The Foreign Secretary for the uk, Yvette Cooper, was saying today that they're going to take a beat and see how this board is going to work.

英國外交大臣 Yvette Cooper 今天表示，他們會先觀察一下，看看這個委員會會怎麼運作。

Of course, they feel very uncomfortable that President Putin has been invited to it.

當然，他們對於普丁總統受邀參加感到非常不舒服。

They see that as normalizing his behavior and a real paradox, if you will, that the, the man who's waging war in Ukraine is sitting there on a board of peace.

他們認為這是在正常化他的行為，而且，如果這麼說的話，一個正在烏克蘭發動戰爭的人，卻坐在一個和平委員會裡，這真是個矛盾。

So all that to be discussed tonight within the remit of the European Council summit in Brussels.

所以今晚，在布魯塞爾的歐洲理事會峰會的討論範圍內，都會討論到這些。

But Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, says, look, give it a chance, but

但國務卿 Marco Rubio 說，看吧，給它一個機會，但是

don't be cynical about this, because the president wants to move things in the right direction.

不要對這件事感到憤世嫉俗，因為總統希望把事情導向正確的方向。

And so often he says, we come to these summits like this one here in Davos, people talk, it becomes a talking shop, and

他常常說，我們來到像這裡的 Davos 峰會，大家會哈拉，變成一個只說不做的場合，

Now we have this Board of Peace, who I believe possibilities are endless, obviously, with a focus, first and foremost, on making sure that this peace deal in Gaza becomes enduring.

現在我們有了這個和平委員會，我相信可能性是無限的，當然，首先也是最重要的，是確保加薩的和平協議能夠持久。

And I know this president has it as his highest priority and will give it everything he has to make sure that this is successful.

我知道這位總統將此視為最高優先事項，並會全力以赴確保成功。

I also want to acknowledge the extraordinary leaders that are here today.

我也要感謝今天在場的傑出領袖們。

This is a board of action, just like President Trump is a president of action.

這是一個行動委員會，就像川普總統是一位行動派總統一樣。

A lot of times, people like to give speeches.

I've been to many of these forums, and they're not useless and they're not, you know, not.

我參加過很多這類論壇，它們並非毫無用處，也不是，你知道的，無關緊要。

在許多情況下，它們是有價值的。

But oftentimes in international affairs, we often find ourselves at events where people are reading these scripted statements, these strongly worded letters that they put out, but

但常常在國際事務中，我們會發現自己參加的活動裡，大家都在唸著這些預設好的講稿，這些措辭強烈的聲明，但是

This is a group of leaders that are about action.

這是一個注重行動的領導人團隊。

And the President of the United States is a president of action, of getting things done.

而美國總統是一位注重行動、能夠把事情做好的總統。

And today is the beginning of that, of a new era and a new stage that we think is so important.

而今天就是這個新時代、新階段的開始，我們認為這非常重要。

As a model to the rest of the world of what is possible.

作為一個向世界展示何種可能性存在的典範。

And clearly the focus is right now on Gaza and making sure that the plan that's about to be presented to you here today, this vision for the future of Gaza, this vision for the future of the region, is not just possible and promising.

顯然，目前的焦點是加薩，並確保今天即將向各位提出的這項計畫，這份加薩的未來願景、這份該區域的未來願景，不僅是可能的、充滿希望的。

It is our destiny if we put the time and the effort that it requires, as I know this board will do.

如果我們投入所需的時間和努力，這將是我們的使命，我知道這個委員會也會這麼做。

But I also think it will serve as an example of what's possible in other parts of the world without losing focus on what's before us now.

但我認為，這也將成為其他地區可能實現的範例，而不會失去對眼前事務的關注。

This is what's possible for other places and other conflicts that seem impossible to solve right now.

這就是其他地方和目前看似無法解決的衝突可能實現的。

So the US Very optimistic about this border peace.

所以美國對這項邊境和平計畫感到非常樂觀。

Marco Rubio and President Trump in particular.

President Trump saying he hopes this will forge what he called a glorious and everlasting peace for the Middle East.

川普總統表示，他希望這能為中東締造他所說的光榮且永恆的和平。

We will take you live to Jerusalem very, very shortly.

我們將在很短的時間內帶您現場直擊耶路撒冷。

But, Christian, we must update our viewers on the other big development that's happening right now in Davos, and

不過，Christian，我們必須向觀眾更新目前在 Davos 正在發生的另一項重大發展，

that's that President Zelensky, he wasn't going to come because of the energy crisis back at home, but

那就是澤倫斯基總統，他原本因為國內的能源危機而不打算前來，但

What do we expect to come out of these talks that he's going to be having with President Trump?

我們預期他將與川普總統舉行的會談會有哪些成果？

Yeah, his diary has been reformatted because he'd made it clear he wasn't coming because he didn't think he was going to get a sit down with Donald Trump.

是的，他的行程已經重新安排，因為他曾明確表示不來，因為他認為他無法與唐納·川普會面。

And he's been busy dealing with the energy crisis at home, which of course has been exacerbated in recent days by the Russian attacks on the energy infrastructure.

而且他一直忙於處理國內的能源危機，當然，最近幾天俄羅斯對能源基礎設施的攻擊加劇了這場危機。

But he will be mindful that Steve Wyckoff is heading off to Moscow to talk to Vladimir Putin.

但他會注意到 Steve Witkoff 將前往莫斯科與普丁會談。

And he will also know that those who want to influence the president have to sit in front of him.

他也將知道，那些想影響總統的人必須在他面前坐下來。

So he's helter skeltered his way here to Davos this afternoon.

所以他今天下午匆忙趕到 Davos 來了。

I think they're meeting around now and they will be getting into the detail of this agreement, which the Americans say is only one step away from being concluded.

我認為他們現在正在開會，並且會深入討論這項協議的細節，美國方面表示這項協議只差一步就能達成。

We should again urge some caution on that because the Americans have said that before.

我們應該再次對此保持謹慎，因為美國之前也說過這樣的話。

But here's what Steve Witkoff had to say about it.

我認為我們已經取得了很大的進展。

I think in the beginning of this process, there was a little bit of confusion.

我認為在這個過程的初期，有點令人困惑。

I think it was important that we go there because we're at the end now and I actually am optimistic.

我認為我們去那裡很重要，因為我們現在已經到了最後階段，而且我其實很樂觀。

I spent the evening with David last night with General Butanov who's now Vice President Butanov, and

我昨晚和 David 以及現在的副總統 Butanov 將軍共進晚餐，

Rustam, they've been amazing, by the way.

Rustam，順帶一提，他們真的很棒。

You have to the Ukrainian people here, you have an amazing negotiating team.

你們在這裡有烏克蘭人民，你們有一個很棒的談判團隊。

I don't know how much, but it could be 100 hours together since Geneva.

我不知道有多少，但自從日內瓦以來，我們可能在一起待了 100 個小時。

And I think we've got it down to one issue, and

而且我認為我們已經把它縮減到一個問題，

we have discussed iterations of that issue, and that means it's solvable.

我們討論了這個問題的各種版本，這意味著它是可以解決的。

So if both sides want to solve this, we're going to get it solved.

所以，如果雙方都想解決這個問題，我們就會解決它。

And I told the President that last night.