Name: 當民主阻礙富人目標時，桑德斯參議員定義「寡頭政治」！ ("When Democracy Gets In The Way Of The Objectives Of The Wealthy" - Sen. Sanders Defines Oligarchy)
Uploaded: 2026-01-21T17:24:45.000Z
Duration: 7 min 16 s

Give it up for Louis Cato and the band, everybody.

各位，為 Louis Cato 和樂團掌聲鼓勵！

You guys have hand warmers and stuff like that over there?

你們那邊有暖暖包那些東西嗎？

You know why we're keeping it so cold in here tonight?

你們知道今晚我們為什麼要把這裡弄這麼冷嗎？

Let's keep everybody aware of how penguins live right now.

我們要讓大家知道企鵝們現在的生活狀況。

You're welcome for your penguin awareness, everybody.

大家，很高興能讓你們更認識企鵝。

Ladies and gentlemen, I am happy to say my guest tonight is the senior senator from the great state of Vermont and.

各位女士先生，很高興地宣佈，今晚我的來賓是來自佛蒙特州這位偉大的資深參議員。

Please welcome back to the Late Show Senator Bernie Sanders.

歡迎回到晚間秀，參議員伯尼·桑德斯。

Well, Senator, as you can see in here, I'm not the only one excited to have you on.

參議員，正如你所見，我不是唯一一個很興奮看到你來的人。

This is your 19th appearance on the Late show with Stephen Colbert.

這是你第19次來到史蒂芬·柯爾伯的晚間秀。

We've only got four months left of the show.

Senator, President Trump, it's been a year since he took office for his second term.

參議員，川普總統，他上任第二任期到現在已經一年了。

Do you also feel like it's been a millennium?

You know, I laugh because every day I and my staff, you know, just one thing or another.

你知道嗎，我笑是因為我跟我的團隊每天，你知道，就是處理各種事情。

And, you know, on a serious note, we are living in an unprecedented, extremely dangerous moment in American history.

不過說真的，我們正活在美國歷史上一個前所未有、極度危險的時刻。

But what I want to say, because I know there's so much anxiety all over this country, this is what I believe from the bottom of my heart, I have been through the fighting, oligarchy tours.

但我想說的是，因為我知道全國各地都有很多焦慮，我真心相信，我經歷過那些鬥爭、寡頭政治的歷程。

And, Stephen, I got to tell you, whether people are Democrats, progressives, independents, conservatives, the people of the United States of America do not want to live under an authoritarian society.

而且，史蒂芬，我必須告訴你，不管大家是民主黨人、進步派、無黨派人士，還是保守派，美國人民都不想活在一個威權主義的社會裡。

They do not want to live under an oligarchic society.

他們不想活在一個寡頭統治的社會裡。

And they understand that in the richest nation in the history of the world, all of our people, not just the billionaires, should be doing well.

他們明白，在世界史上最富裕的國家，我們所有人民，不只是億萬富翁，都應該過得好。

I think we all understand when we say what an authoritarian society is, abuse of authority, really, for people's own personal gain.

我想我們都明白，當我們說什麼是威權主義社會時，就是濫用權力，為了個人利益。

When we say oligarchic society, when we say oligarchy, just define for everybody what you mean by that.

當我們說寡頭統治的社會，當我們說寡頭政治，請為大家定義一下你的意思。

Actually, an oligarchy is a nation where a small Number of incredibly wealthy people control the economy, control media.

事實上，寡頭政治是一個國家裡，少數極度富有的人控制經濟、控制媒體。

We have some experience with that right here on cbs.

我們在 CBS 這裡就有些經驗了。

today we have more income and wealth inequality than we've ever had in the history of America.

今天我們的所得和財富不平等程度，是美國史上前所未有的。

So you got the top 1% owning more wealth than the bottom 93%.

所以你們看，最上面的 1% 人擁有的財富，比下面 93% 的人加起來還要多。

One man, Mr. Musk, one man owning more wealth than the bottom 52% of American households.

馬斯克先生一個人，就擁有比美國底層 52% 家庭加起來還要多的財富。

And then you have a political system, all right?

然後你們還有一個政治體系，這樣對嗎？

These guys not only want to control the economy, they want to control the political system.

這些人不僅想控制經濟，他們還想控制政治體系。

So you have a corrupt political system as a result of this disastrous Citizens United Supreme Court decision.

所以，由於這項災難性的「聯合公民」最高法院判決，導致了一個腐敗的政治體系。

So that billionaires like Mr. Musk can spend $270 million to elect Trump.

這樣像馬斯克先生這樣的億萬富翁，就能花 2.7 億美元來選出川普。

There are Democratic billionaires also putting money into the political process.

也有民主黨的億萬富翁投入資金參與政治進程。

And ordinary people, they say, hey, I got one vote.

而一般民眾，他們會說，嘿，我只有一票。

I can't spend millions of dollars to elect a candidate.

我沒辦法花數百萬美元來選出一個候選人。

So you add ownership of media, which is becoming more and more concentrated.

所以，再加上媒體所有權，這個情況也越來越集中。

Right wing people buying media, owning social media.

右翼人士購買媒體、擁有社群媒體。

Mr. Musk owns X. Zuckerberg owns Facebook and Instagram.

馬斯克先生擁有 X。祖克柏擁有 Facebook 和 Instagram。

艾里森現在擁有 Paramount 和 CBS。

You add all of those things up, what you end up with is a really small number of people with incredible wealth and incredible power.

你把這些加起來，最後你會發現，只有極少數人擁有驚人的財富和驚人的權力。

And that goes together with authoritarianism as like the chocolate and peanut butter of terrible ideas.

這跟威權主義就像是糟糕想法的巧克力和花生醬一樣，是絕配。

Trump gave him a trillion dollars in tax breaks.

Do you think they give a damn about the impact of artificial intelligence and robotics on working people?

你覺得他們會在乎人工智慧和機器人對勞動者的影響嗎？

Do you think they worry about climate change?

你覺得他們會擔心氣候變遷嗎？

many of them are pretty open about it, is, you know, democracy gets in the way.

他們很多人都很直白地說，你知道的，民主會礙事。

I have incredible wealth, incredible power.

我擁有驚人的財富、驚人的權力。

Who the hell do you think you are, through an election to tell me what to do?

你以為你是誰啊，竟然想透過選舉來告訴我該怎麼做？

And some of these guys are pretty upfront about not believing in democracy.

而且這些人裡面，有些還很坦白地表示不相信民主。

So you add all of that stuff up, it is where oligarchy marries authoritarianism.

所以把這些加起來，就是寡頭政治和威權主義結合在一起。

And interestingly enough, while Trump right now is at war with Europe because he doesn't like kind of democratic societies, who does he love?

有趣的是，川普現在正和歐洲開戰，因為他不太喜歡那種民主社會，但他喜歡誰呢？

Who did he welcome into the White House with open arms?

誰是他張開雙臂歡迎進白宮的？

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