Name: 克里斯·梅西納早期就有了「約翰·特拉沃爾塔」的感覺！ (Chris Messina Was Full Travolta Early On)
Uploaded: 2026-01-19T16:59:33.000Z
Duration: 5 min 29 s

Ben，你認識這個 Chris Messina 嗎？

So my mom was a dancer and she became a dance teacher.

所以我媽以前是舞者，後來變成舞蹈老師。

She stopped when she had kids, but her love of dance became mine.

她生小孩後就停了，但她對舞蹈的熱愛就傳給我了。

我。對，我應該把這個傳承下去。

I don't think you can just call this a love of dance, Chris.

Chris，我覺得你不能只說是熱愛舞蹈而已。

I don't think you get away with this that easily.

我覺得你沒那麼容易就這樣算了。

I wanted to be John Travolta, you know, I saw Grease and I was like, oh, that's John Travolta.

我那時候就想當約翰屈伏塔，你知道嗎，我看了《火爆浪子》之後，我就覺得，哇，約翰屈伏塔好帥。

When you went and did that, did they say, now hold your legs like this, and

你去拍的時候，他們有沒有說，腳要這樣夾著，然後

I danced a Greased Lightning when I was in the.

我在…的時候跳了 Greased Lightning。

by the time you hit junior high in Long island, wearing tights and doing ballet, wasn't it sort of an equivalent of the Great Santini?

等到你到了長島的國中，穿著緊身褲跳芭蕾，是不是就有點像《超級戰士葛瑞特》？

Just like the Karate Kid forced into this without any karate, or Billy Elliot without any talent.

就像《小子難纏》被逼著演，但一點空手道都不會，或是《舞動人生》沒什麼天分一樣。

好啦，我們來聊聊《空戰英豪》。

It is my favorite film I've watched in so long.

這是我最近看過最喜歡的電影。

The reviews all say how brilliantly refreshing.

影評都說它有多麼令人耳目一新。

Ben, explain what it is about the film, this story that you wanted to tell and who you both play in the movie.

Ben，可以稍微講一下這部電影在講什麼嗎？你想要講述的這個故事，還有你們兩位在片中飾演的角色。

Yeah, well, there was a lot of it that I was really interested in, including when we were starting this new company.

對啊，其實有很多地方都讓我非常感興趣，包括我們開始創立這家新公司的時候。

And it's a story about, in a way, about people asking to be treated and valued in a way that reflects their own self worth and the way they contribute in fairness and equity and the way kind of capitalism, companies can kind of grind people on the people's relationship to their job.

這部電影在某種程度上，講述的是人們如何爭取被公平對待和重視，這種重視要能反映他們的自我價值，以及他們在公平和公正上的貢獻，還有資本主義、公司有時會如何壓榨員工，以及員工與工作之間的關係。

But one of the things that I really liked about it, broadly speaking, was that it was a movie that was going to depend on the performances and the writing.

但其中一個我真的很喜歡的點，總的來說，就是這部電影的成敗取決於演員的表演和劇本。

And I know a lot of actors who I love and can rely on.

我認識很多我喜歡且信賴的演員。

And I really wanted to say, look, you can make a movie.

我真的很想說，看，你們可以拍一部電影。

And I say that as a former covering cape wearer.

而且我這麼說，是因為我以前也戴過披風。

And I feel like you want to see about people and what they care about.

我覺得你們會想看關於人們以及他們關心什麼的故事。

And that can be surprising and funny and smart and that people will go in the theater.

而且那樣可以很有驚喜感、很有趣、很聰明，然後大家就會走進電影院。

I loved it because they're the kind of movies that I like and I want to make it so I don't want them to go away.

但我超愛，因為這就是我喜歡、也想拍的那種電影，所以我希望它們不會消失。

I mean, can I ask you, is there ever a point when you get the script and I'm sure you were working on the script and all those things that you think, is there anyone else that should play Phil Knight?

我是說，我可以問你嗎？有沒有那種拿到劇本的時候，我確定你當時也在寫劇本那些事情，你會想說，有沒有其他人應該要演 Phil Knight 這個角色？

Or do you immediately think, I'm playing Phil Knight?

還是你馬上就想，我要演 Phil Knight？

I have to be on the set anyway if I'm directing and they pay me more if I'm also in one of the.

如果我擔任導演，我本來就得在片場，而且如果我也演了其中一個角色，他們會多付我錢。

Well, the one time I wasn't in the movie I directed, I kept thinking like, this guy's eating my lunch here.

嗯，有一次我沒演我導的電影，我就一直想，這個傢伙根本在搶我的飯碗。

他是一個很有趣的角色，因為他。

Everyone wants to make fun of the boss, right?

大家都會想開老闆的玩笑，對吧？

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