Name: 伊朗人希望美國介入抗議運動嗎？| DW 時事追擊 (Do Iranians want US intervention in the protest movement? | DW News)
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Anti government protesters have again flooded the streets of Iran, despite the authorities resorting to lethal force against them.

儘管當局對伊朗反政府示威者動用了致命武力，但他們再次湧上街頭。

Human rights groups are reporting hundreds of deaths in nationwide protests.

人權團體報告指出，全國性的抗議活動已造成數百人死亡。

The Islamic regime has ordered counter rallies in an attempt to regain the initiative.

伊斯蘭政權已下令舉行反制集會，試圖重拾主導權。

And the government is warning the US not to intervene in the biggest challenge to its rule in years.

政府警告美國不要幹預，這是多年來對其統治的最大挑戰。

Corpses in black bags left on a street and grieving relatives who've come to identify the remains.

裝在黑色袋子裡的屍體被留在街上，悲痛的親屬前來認領遺體。

The location of this video outside a morgue south of Tehran has been verified.

這段影片的拍攝地點，位於德黑蘭南方一處殯儀館外，已經被證實。

Its date has not, but rights groups agreed that it documents people killed during Iran's nationwide protests.

影片的拍攝日期尚未確定，但人權團體一致認為，這段影片記錄了伊朗全國性抗議活動中被殺害的人們。

This, it seems, is the bitter consequence of the crackdown that the regime signalled was coming.

這似乎是鎮壓行動的苦果，而鎮壓行動是政權預告即將來臨的。

Iran's chief of police warned on Sunday that protesters would be dealt with swiftly and forcefully.

伊朗警務處處長週日警告，示威者將會遭到迅速且強力的對待。

Authorities have cut off the Internet for more than three days now.

Reliable information is scarce, but there's evidence of the crackdown across the country.

雖然可靠的消息不多，但有證據顯示全國各地都在鎮壓。

This footage from a hospital in Shiraz, which has been verified by DW's Farsi service, appears to show beds full of injured protesters.

這段來自設拉子一家醫院的影片，已經由 DW 的波斯語服務證實，畫面顯示病床擠滿了受傷的示威者。

一位醫生發出了這樣的求救訊息。

The protests in Iran are in their third week.

伊朗的抗議活動已經進入第三週。

A key question now, what help can they still receive with the regime's security apparatus having them in its sights?

現在一個關鍵問題是，在政權的安全機構緊盯之下，他們還能獲得什麼幫助？

Well, for more on this, we can speak now with Siva Shakib.

好的，關於這點，我們現在可以請教 Siva Shakib。

She's an Iranian German writer and journalist who was born in Tehran and grew up there.

她是一位伊朗裔德國作家兼記者，出生並成長於德黑蘭。

Siva, what's the latest you've been hearing from people in Iran?

Siva，你從伊朗那邊聽到最新的消息是什麼？

We understand that the Internet is still shut down there, Harry.

我們知道那裡的網路還是關閉的，Harry。

You just broadcasted the voice of the doctor.

你剛剛播出了那位醫生的聲音。

And that pretty much symbolizes how people feel in Iran.

這幾乎象徵了伊朗人民的心聲。

This doctor couldn't even call other colleagues of himself in Iran to ask them to come to the hospital and help save lives of protesters, of demonstrators traitors having been shot and injured by the government.

這位醫生甚至無法聯繫伊朗境內其他同事，請他們到醫院幫忙搶救那些被政權射傷、受傷的示威者、叛徒。

US President Donald Trump has repeatedly threatened to intervene in response to the violent crackdown on the protesters.

美國總統唐納·川普一再威脅要介入，以回應對示威者的暴力鎮壓。

Do those demonstrating in Iran want US help?

在伊朗示威的人們想要美國的幫助嗎？

如果要的話，又是哪種幫助呢？

The population in Iran is not uniquely speaking in one direction, of course, like all populations and, and

伊朗境內的人民當然不是單一方向地發聲，就像所有國家的人民一樣。

that's already an expression of democracy, that they have different opinions, Some say.

這本身就是民主的展現，他們有不同的意見，有些人這麼說。

So where is the US now taking out Khamenei, for example, or other key figures from the regime and from the government.

那麼，美國現在是要把哈米尼，或是政權和政府裡的其他關鍵人物排除在外嗎？

And other people say, please keep your hands off the country.

而另一些人則說，請你們不要干涉我們的國家。

Just support us and don't support the government anymore and be our voice because we have made very bad experiences in the past with foreign governments and countries intervening in the affairs of our country.

只要支持我們，不再支持政府，並成為我們的聲音，因為過去我們在國家事務上與外國政府和國家有過非常糟糕的幹預經驗。

Well, given the brutality of the security crackdown that we're seeing right now, do you think the protest movement has a chance of succeeding without support from outside?

嗯，考量到我們現在看到的這種安全鎮壓的殘酷程度，你認為沒有外部支持，抗議運動有機會成功嗎？

I think so, Terry, because think of the Revolution 47 years ago when the Shah was ousted of Iran.

我認為有，Terry，因為想想 47 年前的革命，當時沙王被趕出伊朗。

Nobody would have thought that the strongest army in the region, supported by the Western governments, being supported by the US in those days, also militarily, and

當時沒有人會想到，這個由西方政府支持、美國在當時也提供軍事支援的最強大軍隊，

also the secret police was trained, the army was trained by the US that they could be driven out of the country by the population.

還有由美國訓練的祕密警察和軍隊，竟然會被人民趕出這個國家。

And the population was a lot less educated.

而且當時的人民受教育程度低得多。

We had about 90% educated people, 10%, sorry, 10% educated people, 90% non educated.

大約有 90% 的人受過教育，10%，抱歉，10% 的人受過教育，90% 的人沒受過教育。

Now the number has reversed and everybody knows what the world looks like.

現在數字已經翻轉了，每個人都知道世界是什麼樣子。

And I'm pretty sure that if the west stops supporting the government but supports the population morally and does what is permitted on international level, but

我很確定，如果西方國家停止支持政府，轉而從道德上支持人民，並在國際層級上做允許的事，但

not entering militarily, the population in Iran will topple this regime as well.

不進行軍事介入，伊朗人民也會推翻這個政權。

His exiled son is now raising his voice in this whole discussion.

他流亡在外的兒子現在也在這整個討論中發聲了。

What role do you see the exiled son of the Shah playing in the protests?

你認為沙王的流亡兒子在這次抗議中扮演什麼角色？

How much support does he have among the Iranian people?

他在伊朗人民中有多少支持度？

So, again, it's a very democratic situation.

所以，再次強調，這是一個非常民主的情況。

Some people in Iran think he should be the next leader.

伊朗有些人認為他應該成為下一任領導人。

Others think he should never be the next leader.

但也有人認為他絕對不該成為下一任領導人。

And a lot of people think he could be a transitional force because in Iran, the opposition did not have the opportunity to, to build an organization, to build structures.

而且很多人覺得他可以扮演一個過渡性的角色，因為在伊朗，反對派沒有機會建立組織、建立結構。

And he, the son of the Shah, is an opposition force who has people around him, who has the structure around him.

而他，也就是沙王的兒子，是一個有追隨者、有組織架構的反對勢力。

And maybe he could come and initiate a new beginning in Iran, but definitely not stay for long.

或許他能為伊朗帶來新的開始，但絕對不會久留。

Siba，謝謝你再次接受我們的訪問。

That was writer, filmmaker, journalist Siba Shakib.

以上是作家、電影製作人、記者 Siba Shakib 的分析。

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