Name: 柔伊莎達娜與雪歌妮薇佛暢談《阿凡達》、時尚與劇場 | 肖像模式 | Harper's Bazaar (Zoe Saldaña & Sigourney Weaver on ‘Avatar,’ Fashion & Theater | Portrait Mode | Harper’s Bazaar)
Uploaded: 2025-12-17T17:56:29.000Z
Duration: 6 min 16 s

And this is Portrait Mode with Harper's Bazaar.

這裡是《哈潑時尚》的肖像模式。

Well, I'd like to apologize in advance to Zoe because I think you're doing great.

嗯，我得先跟柔伊說聲抱歉，因為我覺得妳做得超棒的。

妳會怎麼評價自己的繪畫技巧？

I'm married to a painter, so I just, I just copy whatever I see him doing when he's at the studio, but

我嫁給了一位畫家，所以我只是、我只是模仿他在工作室裡做的任何事，但是

What was your first impression of Sigourney?

妳對雪歌妮的第一印象是什麼？

She's Ellen Ripley and so many iconic characters that I grew up seeing.

她是艾倫·雷普利，還有許多我從小看到大的標誌性角色。

Then all of a sudden I'm working beside her, learning from her, watching her transform from this scientist in 2007 and then now coming back as Kiri.

然後突然間我就和她一起工作，向她學習，看著她從2007年的科學家轉變，現在又回來飾演奇莉。

You're witnessing Sigourney weaver play a 14 year old.

妳正在見證雪歌妮·薇佛飾演一個14歲的少女。

I was so petrified of that teenager because she, no matter what I did, I couldn't.

我對那個青少年感到非常害怕，因為，不管我怎麼做，我就是不行。

She didn't want me to hug her, she didn't want me to kiss her, she didn't want me to hold her hand.

她不想要我抱她，不想要我親她，不想要我牽她的手。

You know, I have to say that Neytiri is one of the greatest creations.

我必須說，奈蒂莉是最偉大的創作之一。

I'm just going on record because I love you.

我只是先說出來，因為我愛妳。

You could also do we made a mistake and now we're correcting it.

妳也可以說，我們犯了錯，現在正在修正。

Sigourney, if your character in Alien, Ellen Ripley, landed on Pandora, do you think she would survive?

雪歌妮，如果妳在《異形》裡飾演的角色艾倫·雷普利，降落到潘朵拉星球，妳覺得她能活下來嗎？

Boy, would she love it if the alien didn't arrive with me.

哎呀，如果異形沒有跟我一起來，她一定會超喜歡的。

I think that's probably what she dreams of when she's in hypersleep.

我想這大概就是她在低溫休眠時的夢想吧。

I just want to say that if you look carefully, you might see a little tooth that comes from Neytiri's going do it for me.

我只是想說，如果你仔細看，可能會看到一點點來自奈蒂莉的牙齒，她會為我這麼做。

看看，但我其實沒有真的這麼做。

I'm doing that so much to my children and my husband.

我對我的孩子和我的丈夫做了太多這種事了。

Sigourney, you have a background in theater.

妳有什麼戲劇上的糗事可以分享嗎？

It was called Titanic and ironically, I mean, it was the most famous Titanic story until Jim Cameron made his glorious film.

那部片叫做鐵達尼號，諷刺的是，在詹姆斯·卡麥隆拍出那部經典電影之前，它曾是鐵達尼號最廣為人知的故事。

There was a night I'm supposed to preset two hamster like creatures inside my bloomers that I then turn to, I think it's my mother and say that you killed them.

有天晚上，我應該要把兩隻倉鼠般的生物藏在燈籠褲裡，然後轉向我媽說「妳殺了牠們」。

喔，是喜劇，當然是我的喜劇。

I think I was ill at ease and I forgot to present the hamsters and I pretended that they were just dead and I carried on.

我想我當時很不自在，忘了拿出倉鼠，就假裝牠們死掉了，然後繼續演。

Zoe, what's one directing note James Cameron has given you that you've never forgotten?

柔伊，詹姆斯·卡麥隆給妳的哪個執導建議是妳從沒忘過的？

It's, you know, every time you come at him with ideas that gets him all excited.

你知道的，每次妳提出想法，都會讓他很興奮。

That's so magnificent because it's collaborative and it allows you to really play.

這真的很棒，因為它是合作性的，而且能讓你盡情發揮。

詹姆斯·卡麥隆創造了一種技巧。

Now it looks like I've given you a mustache.

現在看起來就像我給你畫了鬍子。

現在看起來就像你打了填充劑。

Zoe, what have you learned from Sigourney, ultimate sci fi queen?

柔伊，身為終極科幻女王的雪歌妮，妳從她身上學到了什麼？

You're working together to never stop playing, to witness you transform yourself and go back in time to a place in your life.

你們一起努力，永不停止玩樂，看著你轉變自己，回到你生命中的某個時刻。

Well, I needed healing, so I'm healing myself.

嗯，我需要療癒，所以我正在療癒自己。

It was very cathartic and I saw that and I felt that and.

這非常有療癒作用，我看到了，我感覺到了。

And I've also been in therapy for years and God knows what other things.

而且我也接受了多年的心理治療，還有很多其他的事情，天曉得。

You're much too generous for both of you.

What's exciting you most in fashion right now?

你們現在在時尚界最興奮的是什麼？

I think it's all the new designers for all these huge brands.

我認為是所有這些大品牌的新設計師。

It's like the big shakeup that's happening and how they're all shifting.

這就像正在發生的巨大變革，以及他們如何轉變。

So many of them are designers that have been putting in the work for all these different houses.

他們中有這麼多設計師，一直在為不同的品牌付出努力。

Great designers like Anthony Vaccarello, who has been a Saint Laurent for almost 10 years and really has distinguished that 80s 90s woman that, that maybe reminds him of his mothers, the mothers in his life.

And it reminds me of the women in my life and, and

how my 8 year old self used to view them as these iconic and sexy and just wonderful and strong women.

像 Anthony Vaccarello 這樣偉大的設計師，他已經在 Saint Laurent 工作了將近 10 年，並且真正區分了 80 年代和 90 年代的女性，這可能讓他想起他的母親們，他生命中的母親們。

這讓我想起了我生命中的女性，還有

Yeah, I'm calling her the Ellen Ripley slash Carrie Rambo.

我 8 歲時如何看待她們是這些標誌性、性感、美妙又堅強的女性。

你知道，我剛才對你做了什麼？

And this is Zoe in the south of France in the 60s, 70s.

我知道，但你讓我成為了一個 Na'。

This beautiful, this beautiful, sweet woman has that inside of her.

這個美麗、這個美麗、甜美的女人裡面有這樣的存在。

I needed more than 10 minutes because this is something that you have to like add and then you take away and then you add and then it kind of comes together.

我需要超過 10 分鐘，因為這需要加了又減，然後再加，最後才會成形。

I'm just repeating what I hear my husband say.

我只是重複我聽我先生說的話。

說實話，我根本不知道那是什麼。

And be sure to watch Avatar Fire and Ash Sam.

然後一定要去看《阿凡達：火與灰》山姆。

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