Name: 華納音樂集團與 Suno 和解，將推出 AI 音樂服務！ (Warner Music Group settles with Suno to launch AI music service)
Uploaded: 2025-12-10T12:15:10.000Z
Duration: 10 min 25 s

More music industry changes afoot, this time involving Suno.

Suno 這次又有新的音樂產業變動了。

We talked not too long ago about Yu Dio and it's kind of run in with War Music Group, you know, lawsuit, big lawsuit that threatened to absolutely destroy Udo because, you know, of their training of their music generation service on copyrighted material without permission and all that kind of stuff.

我們前陣子才聊過 Udio 和 War Music Group 的糾紛，你知道的，就是那個差點毀了 Udio 的大訴訟，因為他們在沒有授權的情況下，用版權材料來訓練他們的音樂生成服務，等等這些。

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And, you know, you know what, I'm pretty sure I'm going to sneeze here.

然後，你知道，你知道嗎，我好像要打噴中了。

And I knew that this was right around the corner.

But Suno, which is another one of the music generation services, the primary ones, there's Udo and Suno, are the two most well known, I'd say.

但是 Suno，這是另一個音樂生成服務，主要的兩個，我認為是 Udio 和 Suno 最為人熟知。

And Warner Music Group has now reached an agreement with Suno as well that settles its copyright litigation with Warner Music Group and it creates a partnership between the two for an AI driven music service.

而 War Music Group 現在也和 Suno 達成協議，解決了與 War Music Group 的訴訟，並為 AI 驅動音樂服務建立了合作夥伴關係。

This is, you know, pretty much what happened with Udio just a couple of weeks ago gives the artists and songwriters control their use of the use of their likeness and work in such an AI service.

這大概就是幾週前 Udio 發生的情況，讓藝術家和詞曲作者能夠控制他們在其 AI 服務中肖像的使用以及作品的使用。

Suno is going to commit to launching licensed advanced models sometime in 2026.

Suno 計畫在 2026 年推出授權的高級模型。

Automation also updating their platform restrictions.

Automation 也正在更新他們的平臺限制。

So they're making downloads either paid or limited by tier.

所以下載將會是付費的，或是按等級限制。

Used to be that you could do that for free.

So those downloads are getting kind of limited and locked behind the scenes, similar to what happened with Udo.

所以這些下載現在變得有點受限，並且被鎖定在幕後，這和 Udio 發生的一樣。

So I put a story up there underneath that story, which has me a little confused about the combination here.

所以我在那個故事下面放了一個故事，這讓我對這裡的組合有點困惑。

So Suno said that somebody got a hold of the.

According to Billboard, they got a hold of investor presentation materials.

根據 Billboard 的報導，他們拿到了一份投資者簡報資料。

The company has paid only $2,000 in total on music used to train its models, said Billboard.

Billboard 報導，該公司在用於訓練其模型的音樂上總共只支付了 2,000 美元。

So I'm not sure what the fight was with Warner Music.

所以我不太確定 Warner Music 之間的爭執是什麼。

They were using the music that people created to train the model.

他們使用人們創作的音樂來訓練模型。

According to Billboard, which obtained the investor presentation materials, it also said that users are generating 7 million songs per day on Suno.

根據 Billboard 取得的投資者簡報資料，其中也提到使用者每天在 Suno 上生成 700 萬首歌曲。

In the course of two weeks, they create as many songs as are currently available on Spotify.

兩週內，他們創作的歌曲數量就等於 Spotify 上現有的歌曲總數。

And I don't know how much of it we would consider, you know, tuneful slop.

我不知道有多少能算得上是，你知道，好聽的爛歌。

Can I express myself musically in a way that I couldn't.

我能不能用一種我以前無法做到的方式來表達我的音樂？

And it's a good thing, you know, I don't.

這樣很好，你知道的，我做不到。

It says the figure is the $2,000 is not low because Suno hasn't used the work of other artists to train its models.

說這個數字是 2,000 美元不低，因為 Suno 並沒有使用其他藝術家的作品來訓練它的模型。

不，整個平臺是 Gizmodo 說的，而且

the work that it spits out is built entirely on the music that was made by creatives who.

它產出的作品完全是建立在由創作者所製作的音樂之上。

Who had to find ways to learn to play on their own.

他們必須自己想辦法學習演奏。

According to Pitch Deck allegedly said to investors the company spent only $2,000 on training data because it has been scraping songs for free, allegedly by ripping them from YouTube.

根據 Pitch Deck 據稱對投資者說的，該公司在訓練資料上只花了 2,000 美元，因為它一直在免費抓取歌曲，據稱是從 YouTube 上抓取的。

I was going to say they only spent $2,000.

I think that's the real big thing is that obviously, I mean, I think everybody's been assuming, Right.

我覺得這才是真正的大問題，顯然，我的意思是，我覺得大家都在假設，對吧。

I don't know that there's been any sort of admission of guilt or, or, you know, how they, how they did the process, other than maybe what's said here.

我不知道有沒有任何承認有罪，或者，你知道的，他們是怎麼處理這個過程的，除了這裡說的之外。

When you said that all they spent was 2,000 on training data and that's it.

當你說他們只花了兩千塊訓練資料，就這樣。

And then everything else was from the platform.

Because the quality of the music that it was creating, like, I've.

因為它創造的音樂品質，像是，我聽過。

I've heard plenty of music generation services that didn't train on what I'm assuming Suno and Udo did, which is a large, vast of commercially released.

我聽過很多音樂生成服務，它們沒有訓練我假設 Suno 和 Udio 所做的，也就是大量的、商業發行的。

I mean, I just have to imagine that clearly I'm making an assumption, so don't, you know, don't ding me for that.

我的意思是，我只能想像，顯然我是在做假設，所以，你懂的，別是以責怪我。

But there's a huge delta between the quality of services that do it legitimately versus the services that just go to town.

但是，合法做的服務和隨便做的服務，在品質上存在巨大的差異。

And Suno and Udo are in another class altogether as far as the quality that they're putting out, in my own opinion.

而 Suno 和 Udio 在他們輸出的品質方面，在我自己看來，是完全屬於另一個等級的。

And so I've just kind of assumed like, yeah, that was probably trained largely on, you know, unlicensed material.

所以我一直認為，是的，它很可能主要是在，你知道的，未經授權的材料上訓練的。

I guarantee you it wasn't just off of $2,000 worth of training data.

我保證，這絕對不是靠價值 2,000 美元的訓練資料完成的。

And both of them, I think what's interesting to me about this is both of them, you know, we're creating.

而這兩者，我認為有趣的是，這兩者，你知道的，我們正在創造。

And by them, I mean Suno and Udio they were creating these very adversarial platforms, you know, based on a lot of this.

我說的是 Suno 和 Udio，他們創造了這些非常對抗性的平臺，你知道的，基於這些。

Adversarial to the music companies, let's say.

也就是說，對音樂公司來說是敵對的。

And yet where do they find themselves in a prime bargaining position, even though it's potential, you know, potentially that they did train these services largely on, you know, copyrighted, unlicensed work that they weren't allowed to train on, yet they were able to do it long enough and delay it long enough and show enough interest by enough people.

然而，儘管他們可能，你知道的，可能他們主要是在未經授權的版權作品上訓練這些服務，而他們本來不被允許訓練，但他們卻能夠做到這一點，並拖延足夠長的時間，並引起足夠多人的興趣，他們現在發現自己處於有利的談判地位。

I mean, it kind of, in that perspective, it kind of feels like a classic Silicon Valley kind of story.

我的意思是，從這個角度來看，它感覺就像一個經典的矽谷故事。

就像我們只是，我們把它建立起來。

And so you can't ignore the fact that there's a lot of people here that state that you stand to have some sort of value with this service.

所以你不能忽略，這裡很多人都說，你從這項服務中能獲得某種價值。

And hence, instead of suing them completely out of existence, Warner Group has decided to go into business with them.

是以，Warner Music Group 沒有選擇將他們告到消失，而是決定與他們合作。

And I think that the copyright issues are unsettled in courts and.

我認為版權問題在法院尚未解決，而且。

And so they realized they had to do something for now because as a songwriter you can sit down and you can listen to people's music and as long as you don't replicate their music, you can be inspired by it.

所以他們意識到，他們現在必須做些什麼，因為身為詞曲作者，你可以坐下來聽別人的音樂，只要你不複製他們的音樂，你就可以從中獲得靈感。

And so if that's allowed for you, Jason Howell, why shouldn't it be allowed for Suno?

所以如果這對你 Jason Howell 來說是允許的，為什麼不能對 Suno 允許呢？

I will also go ahead and point you back to.

Let's see here, I'm vamping while I kind of get it up back to the video that I did with Bill Meeks last week because part of his experience was something that I hadn't really considered doing with Suno before.

讓我想想，我現在邊找邊回顧我上週和 Bill Meeks 一起做的影片，因為他的一些經驗是我之前沒認真考慮過用 Suno 來做的。

And I can't remember where in here he does it, but

我不太記得他是在哪裡做的，但是

he basically he took like a demo that he recorded, just him on a guitar.

他基本上是拿了他錄製的一個 demo，只有他彈吉他。

He created a song about, about AI inside, basically.

他創作了一首關於 AI 內部的歌曲。

So he just recorded it, you know, he did all the lyrics he just recorded into a single mic.

所以他只是錄下來，你知道的，他寫了所有歌詞，然後只用一個麥克風錄製。

Him playing guitar and him singing into it.

And then he fed that into Suno and Suno gave him a fully realized version of that demo.

然後他把那個餵給 Suno，Suno 就給了他一個完整的 demo 版本。