Name: 川普：美國在加勒比海擊毀「載毒潛艇」！ (Trump: US attacked 'drug-carrying submarine' in Caribbean)
Uploaded: 2025-11-17T17:28:44.000Z
Duration: 10 min 54 s

The US Is holding two survivors of a US Strike on an alleged drug filled submarine in the Caribbean.

美國正在接收兩名在加勒比海的毒品潛艇襲擊事件中的倖存者。

According to President Trump, it would be the sixth known strike, the first that didn't kill everyone on board.

根據川普總統的說法，這是第六次已知襲擊，也是第一次沒有造成船上人員全數死亡。

In the same week, Trump publicly declared he authorized the CIA to operate inside Venezuela to crack down on drug trafficking and migrants.

同一週，川普公開表示，他授權中央情報局在委內瑞拉境內行動，以打擊毒品販運和移民。

This afternoon, the president had this colorfully worded message for the Venezuelan strongman leader, Nicolas Maduro.

今天下午，總統向委內瑞拉強人領導人馬杜羅傳達了這番色彩繽紛的訊息。

Because he doesn't want to fuck around with the United States.

So joining us now is retired US Air Force Colonel Cedric Layton.

現在加入我們的是美國空軍退役上校 Cedric Layton。

I won't ask you about that language from the president, but

我不會問你總統說了什麼，但是

I will be asking you about what the United States is doing.

The US Navy is deploying about 4,000 more Marines and sailors to patrol waters around Latin America and the Caribbean.

美國海軍正部署大約 4,000 名海軍陸戰隊和水手，巡邏拉丁美洲和加勒比海周邊水域。

Maduro is rolling out a new defense plan plan, reportedly mobilizing his own military, police and militias.

馬杜羅正在推出一個新的防禦計劃，據報導正在動員他自己的軍隊、警察和民兵。

Could movements like this mean that both countries are preparing for potentially a larger conflict?

像這樣的舉動是否意味著兩國都在為潛在的更大衝突做準備？

Yeah, Bianna, that unfortunately is often historically the case that when countries mobilize their forces, here we have some Marines getting ready for a training mission.

是的，Bianna，不幸的是，歷史上經常是這樣，當國家動員軍隊時，在這裡我們看到一些海軍陸戰隊正在為訓練任務做準備。

And here we have the Venezuelan National Guard and they are moving into what looks like a training mission as well.

而在這裡我們看到委內瑞拉國民警衛隊，他們也正在進入看起來像訓練任務的狀態。

So these are the kinds of things that we have to watch out for because as troops deploy to areas, we've got about 4,000 US troops in and around Venezuela right now.

所以這些是我們必須注意的事情，因為隨著部隊部署到該地區，我們現在大約有 4,000 名美軍在委內瑞拉及其周邊地區。

That could be a telltale sign that they're trying to do something.

這可能是他們正試圖做些什麼的跡象。

And once those wheels are set in motion, sometimes it's very hard to stop them.

而一旦這些齒輪開始轉動，有時候就非常難以停止。

So let's zoom out for a minute here because Trump says Venezuela is, quote, feeling heat.

所以我們在這裡稍微拉遠一點看，因為川普說委內瑞拉「感受到了壓力」。

Can you explain for our viewers why this focus specifically on Venezuela?

你能為我們的觀眾解釋一下為什麼特別關注委內瑞拉嗎？

So there's several different factors here, Biano, but one of them is trend.

所以這裡有幾個不同的因素，Bianna，其中一個是趨勢。

This is a group that President Trump talks a lot about.

這是川普總統經常談論的一個團體。

They started in Venezuela, but they are in many other places.

他們從委內瑞拉開始，但他們也在很多其他地方。

They also operate here in the United States.

One of the things that they do is very clearly and very badly human trafficking.

他們做的一件事非常明確且非常糟糕，那就是人口販運。

They also do target migrants as part of that human tracking effort.

他們也將移民作為人口販運努力的一部分目標。

Money laundering is also one of the key elements that they do.

洗錢也是他們做的關鍵要素之一。

And probably most importantly to the US Administration is drug smuggling.

而對美國政府來說，最重要的一點可能是毒品走私。

There are many air bases that the Venezuelans have, but these are two of the main ones.

委內瑞拉有很多空軍基地，但這是其中兩個主要的。

El Liberatador and Lieutenante Vicente Landeatagil Air Force Base.

El Liberatador 和 Lieutenante Vicente Landeatagil 空軍基地。

They are in this part of Venezuela and What they have are F16s, American made F16s and Russian made SU30s.

它們位於委內瑞拉的這個區域，他們擁有的是 F16，美國製造的 F16，以及俄羅斯製造的 SU30。

So there is military power in Venezuela and part of it is of course supported by Russia and also by Cuba.

所以委內瑞拉是有軍事實力的，其中一部分當然有俄羅斯和古巴的支持。

The other thing about Venezuela is they have oil.

委內瑞拉的另一件事是他們有石油。

And one of the key elements of that is what is called the Orinoco Belt.

其中一個關鍵要素就是所謂的奧裡諾科帶。

There are several different factors here.

Venezuela had a lot of oil in the Maracaibo region off to the west here, but

委內瑞拉在西邊的馬拉開波地區曾有大量的石油，但

they also have a lot of oil potentially in these parts.

他們在這些地方也可能蘊藏著大量的石油。

Plus they also have a potential dispute with Guyana in the Essequibo region.

另外，他們在埃塞奎博地區與蓋亞那也存在潛在的爭議。

Yeah, it used to be one of the richest countries in the world given their oil reserves.

是的，考慮到他們的石油儲量，這裡曾經是世界上最富有的國家之一。

I do want to ask you and get your take on the head of the US Southern Command stepping down.

我想問你對美國南方司令部司令卸任有什麼看法。

This is Admiral Alvin Holsey, who led operations in the Caribbean for only a year.

這位海軍上將 Alvin Holsey，他僅領導了加勒比地區的行動一年。

And sources are telling CNN that he and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth did not see eye to eye.

而消息人士告訴 CNN，他和國防部長 Pete Hegseth 意見不合。

This is a high profile resignation during an incredibly tense time, as you've just laid out.

正如你剛才所說，這是在一個極度緊張的時期，一次備受矚目的辭職。

Usually when tensions ramp up in a particular theater that is a theater of potential conflic, the person in charge of that combatant command, in this case Southern Command, would stay on in the job and see things through.

通常，當一個潛在衝突地區的緊張局勢升級時，負責該戰區司令部的人，在這裡就是南方司令部，會繼續留任，直到事情告一段落。

But what is clear to me about Admiral Halsey stepping down is that there must be some policy disagreement going on here.

但對我來說，關於 Halsey 海軍上將的辭職，很明顯這裡一定有政策上的分歧。

And one of the key factors is that these attacks against the little ships that we've seen off the Venezuelan coast, they may not quite fit in with the construct of the laws of war.

而其中一個關鍵因素是，我們在委內瑞拉海岸看到的這些針對小型船隻的襲擊，可能不太符合戰爭法的框架。

And that's a key factor and could have resulted in his.

這是一個關鍵因素，而且可能導致了他的。

All right, Colonel Cedric Layton, thank you so much.

好的，Cedric Layton 上校，非常感謝您。

southern Command and the Pentagon's escalating attacks on alleged drug boats off Venezuela's coast is retiring barely a year into his tenure.

南方司令部和五角大廈升級對委內瑞拉海岸涉嫌毒品船隻襲擊的軍事指揮官，上任不到一年就退休了。

One source tells CNN tensions have been simmering for weeks between Admiral Alvin Holsey and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and that Hegseth did not believe the admiral was moving aggressively enough to take on alleged drug traffickers in the Caribbean today.

一位消息人士告訴 CNN，數週以來，Alvin Holsey 海軍上將和國防部長 Pete Hegseth 之間的緊張關係一直在醞釀，而 Hegseth 認為海軍上將在打擊加勒比海地區涉嫌毒品販運者方面行動不夠積極。

According to Reuters, relatives of a Trinidadian man believed killed in the US Military strike on a boat in the Caribbean this week are demanding the US Provide evidence to back up President Trump's claim that those who died were trafficking drugs.

據路透社報導，一名特立尼達男子家屬相信他已在美國海軍本週對加勒比海一艘船隻的襲擊中喪生，他們要求美國提供證據，以支持川普總統關於死者正在販運毒品的說法。

Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Admiral James Stavridis joins us now.

前北約最高盟軍指揮官 James Stavridis 海軍上將現在加入我們。

He served himself as a commander of US southcom.

他本人曾擔任美國南方司令部的指揮官。

He is also a partner at Carlyle Group, an international investment firm.

他也是國際投資公司 Carlyle Group 的合夥人。

And he serves on the board of advisors for a handful of defense related companies.

他還擔任多家國防相關公司的顧問委員會成員。

Thank you so much for being with us, Admiral.

非常感謝您接受我們的訪問，海軍上將。

First off, just put this into context for us.

首先，請為我們說明一下這件事的背景。

And why would a commander of Southcom retire well ahead of schedule in the midst of a controversial offensive of questionable legality?

為什麼一位南方司令部的指揮官會在一個合法性存疑且具爭議的攻勢中，遠早於預定時間退休？

The last one I can think about was just under 20 years ago.

我能想到上一個類似的例子是將近二十年前。

That was Admiral Fox Fallon at U.S. central Command.

那是美國中央司令部的 Admiral Fox Fallon。

He had policy disagreements with the administration at the time about how to approach Iran.

他當時在如何處理伊朗的問題上，與政府有政策上的分歧。

But for a combatant commander, normally he or she would be in the job three years minimum.

但對於戰區指揮官來說，通常至少會任職三年。

I was four years as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, three years commander of Southern Command.

我在北約擔任最高盟軍司令四年，在南方司令部擔任司令三年。

But certainly one would think he would be considering whether he wanted to continue in the job.

但當然，人們會認為他會考慮是否要繼續任職。

The Secretary of Defense might have decided he wasn't the right person in the job.

國防部長可能已經決定他不是適合這個職位的人選。

We're just going to have to get more information.

不過這確實是個很不尋常的狀況。

Trump had said just a short time ago at the White House that this was a submarine that was struck.

川普總統不久前在白宮才說，這是一艘被擊中的潛艇。

In this latest case where someone survived, he said, I don't know too many people who have subs.

在這次倖存者的最新案例中，他說，我認識的擁有潛艇的人不多。

You have said that there is reason to worry about whether the Geneva Conventions are being adhered to with these strikes on alleged drug vessels.

您曾說，對於這些針對疑似毒品船隻的襲擊，是否遵守日內瓦公約令人擔憂。

Why do you think the strikes might be illegal?

您認為這些襲擊為何可能非法？

I'll tell you who do have submarines are drug runners.

我告訴您，擁有潛艇的其實是毒販。

I captured any number of them when I was commander of Southern Command.

我在擔任南方司令部指揮官時，就曾逮捕過不少。

They build these kind of primitive but somewhat effective semi submersible, in effect, submarines.

他們會製造這種原始但有點有效的半潛式潛艇。

So it's not in any sense unusual to have one of those involved in the drug trafficking.

所以，有這種東西涉及毒品販運，一點也不奇怪。

I think it is also correct to say if it is a semi submersible running through the Caribbean, that's almost a guarantee it is a drug runner.

嗯，如果說有半潛式潛艇在加勒比海出沒，那幾乎可以肯定是在運毒。

But here's the problem for the administration.

不過，這對政府來說有個問題。

They haven't provided any evidence to back up the claims that these drug runners are not only moving drugs toward the United States, but

他們沒有提供任何證據來支持這些毒販不僅將毒品運往美國，

also are part of large organized entities that have a directed campaign against our nation.

而且還屬於有組織的大型團體，對我國發動了定向攻擊的說法。

And their argument is that drugs kill Americans, therefore we kill drug traffickers.

他們的論點是，毒品殺害了美國人，所以我們要殺死毒販。

That has an attractive simplicity to it, but

it doesn't in any way stand up unless you've got the intelligence.

這完全站不住腳，除非你有情報。

And finally, Brianna, this is where Congress ought to be involved because they can look at that classified information.

最後，Brianna，這就是國會應該介入的地方，因為他們可以查看這些機密資訊。

They can help make a judgment as to whether these actions are legitimate.

他們可以幫助判斷這些行動是否合法。

Under the laws of war and the Geneva Conventions or not.

是否符合戰爭法和日內瓦公約。

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