Name: CNN 的艾比-菲利普："這是我這輩子聽過的最糟糕的陰謀 (CNN's Abby Phillip: ‘This is the worst conspiracy I've ever heard in my life’)
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I chuckled a little bit, Scott, when you compared this to...

我笑了一下，斯科特，當你把這比作......

Um, I'm actually gonna play this from The Daily Show's Jordan Klepper, because I think, honestly, he comedically laid this out pretty-pretty clearly why...

實際上，我要播放的是《每日秀》喬丹-克萊珀（Jordan Klepper）的節目，因為我認為，老實說，他以喜劇的方式非常清楚地闡述了這一點，為什麼......

我不知道為什麼這個論點能成立。

According to Trump, all the top Democrats got together and said, let's create some fake files that destroy Trump's political career.

據特朗普稱，所有民主黨高層聚在一起說，讓我們製造一些假文件，毀掉特朗普的政治生涯。

They don't ever use them, they let Trump get elected, don't use them, let Trump get elected again, still don't use them, and then, once he's the president, hope he releases the files without ever looking at them.

他們從不使用這些文件，讓特朗普當選，不使用這些文件，讓特朗普再次當選，仍然不使用這些文件，然後，一旦他當上總統，希望他在不看這些文件的情況下釋放這些文件。

This is the worst conspiracy I've ever heard in my life.

這是我這輩子聽過的最糟糕的陰謀。

That is the most inhuman description I've ever heard.

這是我聽過的最不人道的描述。

How on earth would Democrats have been trying to take down Trump with documents that they never used to take down Trump?

民主黨人究竟是如何利用他們從未用來扳倒特朗普的文件來扳倒特朗普的？

I'm sorry, they crippled almost his entire first term by convincing one-half of the country that Russia stole the 2016 election.

對不起，他們讓全國二分之一的人相信俄羅斯竊取了 2016 年大選，幾乎毀掉了他的整個第一任期。

And Democrats still have his at arm's length.

而民主黨人仍然對他敬而遠之。

But where is the Democrat conspiracy on this issue?

但在這個問題上，民主黨的陰謀何在？

There's no conspiracy and there's no story.

Tonight, and I'll give you an example of why I believe that.

今晚，我將舉例說明我為什麼這麼認為。

今晚，福克斯新聞做了一項民意調查...

Are you calling into question the Fox News polling?

你是在質疑福克斯新聞的民意調查嗎？

Because it's generally considered to be very good.

Of all the people who said they approve or disapprove of Donald Trump, only one percent mentioned Epstein is the reason.

在所有表示贊成或不贊成唐納德-特朗普的人中，只有百分之一的人提到愛潑斯坦是原因。

And the whole one percent was either Democrats or independents.

而整整百分之一的人不是民主黨人就是無黨派人士。

This-this fantasy that Republicans are mag-amplified...

這種認為共和黨人是被放大了的......

Nobody in the Republican Party is worried about this, and most of America is not worried about this.

共和黨內沒人擔心這個問題，美國大多數人也不擔心這個問題。

CNN's polling shows that he's 37 points underwater on the Epstein issue.

CNN的民調顯示，他在愛潑斯坦問題上落後37個百分點。

But the-the larger point is, this started in...

但更重要的是，這件事始於......

唐納德-特朗普是 2019 年的總統。

Barack Obama had left office by that time, and he still thinks that somehow Barack Obama created a conspiracy to-to frame Donald Trump about something that happened with Epstein after he-after he was in office?

巴拉克-奧巴馬當時已經卸任，而他仍然認為巴拉克-奧巴馬製造了一個陰謀，在他--在他上任之後--與愛潑斯坦發生的事情上陷害唐納德-特朗普？

I think it's pretty telling that some of these latest revelations that have really gotten under Trump's skin are coming out in The Wall Street Journal.

我認為，《華爾街日報》最近披露的一些消息很能說明問題，這些消息確實讓特朗普很不爽。

The same people that own Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, despite the fact that Donald Trump called on the phone and told them not to publish this, despite the fact that Donald Trump has threatened and pursued legal action, and they are still publishing this, which tells you...

福克斯新聞的老闆魯珀特-默多克（Rupert Murdoch），儘管唐納德-特朗普（Donald Trump）打電話告訴他們不要發表這篇報道，儘管唐納德-特朗普（Donald Trump）威脅要採取法律行動，但他們仍然發表了這篇報道，這告訴你......

The journal has... the journal has some great reporters, and they're-they're doing their jobs.

期刊有......期刊有一些很棒的記者，他們在做自己的工作。

They're-they're doing... they're doing their jobs.

他們在做......他們在做他們的工作。

Um, we were just talking about whether or not MAGA cares, right?

嗯，我們剛剛在討論 MAGA 是否在乎，對吧？

So, a judge decided today that they were not gonna be allowed to release these grand jury transcripts, which Trump wanted... said he wanted released.

所以，法官今天決定 他們不會被允許 釋放這些大陪審團的成績單， 特朗普希望... 說他希望被釋放。

Um, this is a limited amount of information.

They could release the files that they have in DOJ possession.

他們可以公佈司法部掌握的文件。

All of a sudden now, Charlie Kirk says, President Trump's DOJ moved to release the valuable Epstein information, and a federal judge is blocking their pursuit of transparency.

查理-柯克（Charlie Kirk）說，現在突然間，特朗普總統的司法部提出要公佈有價值的愛潑斯坦資訊，而聯邦法官卻阻止他們追求透明度。

該法官是 2014 年奧巴馬任命的。

Or does Trump have the power, if he wanted to, to actually release many, many documents, many more valuable documents than these transcripts?

或者說，如果特朗普願意，他是否有能力實際公佈很多很多文件，很多比這些記錄稿更有價值的文件？

Charlie Kirk is still in the media class.

This, to the media class, is our soap opera.

對於媒體階層來說，這就是我們的肥皂劇。

This is the scandal that we are whining and dining on.

But outside of the Beltway and the media industry, to Scott's earlier point, this is not a salient issue to the middle of the country that needs to be persuaded headed into the midterms, and I would even argue it's not a ranking in the top five for MAGA voters.

但在 "環城公路 "和媒體行業之外，正如斯科特之前所說，這對於中期選舉中需要說服的中間選民來說，並不是一個突出的問題，我甚至認為，對於MAGA選民來說，這不是一個排名前五的問題。

Then why does... why does Trump keep talking about it?

那為什麼......為什麼特朗普一直在談論這件事？

I think it's because he's responding to the attacks.

我認為這是因為他在迴應攻擊。

Why is the Democrats keep talking about it?

為什麼民主黨一直在談論這個問題？

If Trump wanted to move on, whenever a reporter asked him a question about this, he would say, I'm not gonna talk about this issue.

如果特朗普想繼續前進，每當有記者向他提問時，他就會說，我不會談論這個問題。

He has not done that a single time in the last week and a half that this has been a story.

在過去一週半的報道中，他沒有一次這樣做。

I think if MAGA didn't care about this, it wouldn't be an issue right now.

我認為，如果 MAGA 不關心這個問題，現在就不會成為一個問題。

When Pam Bondi came out and said, this is done, it's finished, they screamed.

當帕姆-邦迪（Pam Bondi）站出來說 "這一切都結束了 "時，他們尖叫起來。

If the Democrats had screamed and they did, that wouldn't have mattered.

如果民主黨人大喊大叫，那就無所謂了。

But because part of the base screamed, that it mattered, and it will matter in the midterms.

但由於部分選民的尖叫，這很重要，在中期選舉中也會很重要。

And I wouldn't want to go home to a recess.

When you have troublesome political news, to go to an August recess, I wouldn't want to with this hanging over.

當你遇到棘手的政治新聞時，要在八月休會，我可不想讓這件事懸而未決。

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