Name: "這就是我們輸掉上次大選的原因"--希夫參議員談維持現狀的民主黨人 (“It’s Why We Lost The Last Election” - Sen. Schiff On Democrats Who Maintain The Status Quo)
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Bertie and AOC, Senator Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, have been going to red districts around the United States.

參議員桑德斯和亞歷山德里亞-奧卡西奧-科特茲（Bertie and AOC, Senator Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez）一直在前往美國各地的紅色選區。

And they've been getting huge rally crowds for them.

他們一直在為他們爭取大量的集會人群。

They're bringing those two people specifically are or have been members of Democratic Socialists.

他們把這兩個人特別是現在或曾經是民主社會主義者的成員。

Here in New York, Zoran Mamdani won the primary.

在紐約，佐蘭-馬姆達尼贏得了初選。

I mean, certainly for Bernie and AOC, they might say, even though they're Democratic Socialists, they might say that they embody what Howard Dean said in 2004.

我的意思是，當然，對於伯尼和AOC來說，他們可能會說，儘管他們是民主社會主義者，但他們可能會說，他們體現了霍華德-迪恩（Howard Dean）在2004年所說的話。

I come from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.

They're saying that there's already a message the Democrats have, and it's the FDR message.

他們說民主黨已經有了一個資訊，那就是羅斯福的資訊。

It's caring for people who are marginalized.

It's making sure people can eat and people can get good jobs.

這是為了確保人們能吃飽飯，能找到好工作。

I think our democracy is in trouble in significant part because the economy is not working for millions of Americans.

我認為，我們的民主之所以陷入困境，很大程度上是因為數百萬美國人的經濟不景氣。

And it's not that Americans aren't working.

他們比以往任何時候都更加努力。

The problem is they are working, and they still struggle to get by more than their parents struggled to get by.

問題是，他們在工作，但他們的生活仍然比他們的父母還要艱難。

And I think when that's the case, all too many people are open to any despot who comes along promising they alone can fix it.

我認為，一旦出現這種情況，很多人就會聽信專制者的一面之詞，認為只有他們才能解決這個問題。

Why do you think this Democratic Socialist message is so appealing recently?

您認為為什麼民主社會主義的資訊最近如此吸引人？

Well, I think what's appealing about AOC, what's appealing about Bernie and Mamdani is that they are vigorous challengers against the status quo.

我認為，AOC、伯尼和馬姆達尼吸引人的地方在於，他們都是反對現狀的有力挑戰者。

They recognize the status quo just sucks for working people.

他們認識到，現狀對勞動人民來說太糟糕了。

They're not afraid to put forward bold ideas.

And they are exactly who they appear to be.

And I think the commonality, frankly, between the success Mamdani had in New York and the fact that Trump won in 2024 is that both of them represent an attack on the status quo.

坦率地說，我認為馬姆達尼在紐約取得的成功與特朗普在2024年獲勝的事實之間的共性在於，兩者都代表了對現狀的攻擊。

Now, Trump's attack on the status quo has just turned the country into this dystopian hellhole at the moment.

現在，特朗普對現狀的抨擊讓這個國家變成了這個烏托邦式的地獄。

But I think because people are so dissatisfied with how difficult it is to afford a place to live or to provide for their kids or access health care, they're ready to embrace anyone who is a representative of dramatic change.

但我認為，由於人們對買得起房子、供養孩子或獲得醫療服務有多麼困難感到非常不滿，是以他們願意接受任何代表巨大變革的人。

And if we're going to win the midterms and we're going to take back the White House, we cannot be seen as the party of the status quo.

如果我們要贏得中期選舉，奪回白宮，我們就不能被視為維持現狀的政黨。

It's why we lost the last presidential election.

這也是我們在上屆總統選舉中失利的原因。

And we damn well have to be out there fighting for rapid change.

I want to compliment you for having the courage to say you're not supporting the idea of a dystopian hellhole.

我要讚揚你有勇氣說你不支持建立一個烏托邦式的地獄。

Well, we're going to take another break here, but right back with more Adam Schiff, everybody.  Thank you.

好了，我們將在這裡休息一下，但馬上回來更多亞當希夫，大家。  謝謝

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