Name: 頂級行為專家揭示控制任何你想要的人的第一操縱戰術 | Chase Hughes (Top Behavior Expert Reveals the #1 Manipulation Tactic to Control Anyone You Want | Chase Hughes)
Uploaded: 2025-05-02T14:40:47.000Z
Duration: 47 min 54 s

Darrell Bock So you've heard of the Milgram experiment?

達雷爾-博克 你聽說過米爾格拉姆實驗嗎？

達雷爾-博克 讓我帶你瞭解一下。

This is 1962 at Yale University and they do a study.

這是 1962 年耶魯大學進行的一項研究。

They put an ad in the paper and say, we're doing a study on learning and psychology and if you come in and volunteer for this study, we're going to give you like a lunch voucher or something like that.

他們在報紙上登廣告說，我們正在做一項關於學習和心理學的研究，如果你自願參加這項研究，我們會給你一張午餐券之類的東西。

So let's say you're doing the study and you take it and you go up in this hallway.

比方說，你在做研究，然後拿著它走到走廊上。

You meet this guy, the guy in the lab coat, and there's another volunteer there and you draw straws.

你去見那個穿白大褂的人，還有另一個志願者，然後你們抽籤。

The other guy draws the learner straw and you draw a straw that says teacher on it.

別人抽到了學習者的吸管，而你抽到的吸管上寫著老師。

And they say, all right, you're going to sit down here and I'll summarize it.

他們說，好吧，你就坐在這裡，我來總結一下。

But the guy's in the room next to you with the door shut and you're going to sit down at this machine and you're going to read this quiz and for every question he gets wrong, you're going to shock his ass.

但是那個人就在你隔壁的房間裡，門是關著的，你要坐在這臺機器前，讀這個測試題，他每錯一道題，你就要電擊他的屁股。

You're going to deliver an electric shock.

So you walk in there with him to begin the experiment.

所以你和他一起走進去，開始實驗。

You watch him getting strapped down into this machine and they even let you test the shocker on yourself.

你看著他被綁在這臺機器上，他們甚至還讓你親自測試電擊器。

And every time they get a question wrong, you shock them.

每當他們做錯一道題，你都會讓他們大吃一驚。

But not only that, you're going to grab that little knob and move the voltage up.

不僅如此，你還要抓住那個小旋鈕，把電壓調高。

So if you move the knob all the way to the far right, it says XXX Danger Severe Shock.

所以，如果你把旋鈕一直向右移動，它就會顯示 XXX "嚴重休克危險"。

The guy says he's got a heart condition and you can hear him screaming.

那傢伙說他有心臟病，你能聽到他在尖叫。

When you hit this little shock button to the wall, you can hear him go, ah, ah.

當你按下牆上的這個小電擊按鈕時，你可以聽到他 "啊，啊 "的叫聲。

你可以聽到這些小小的尖叫聲。

And every time you're moving it up and sooner or later he says, I don't want to do this anymore.

每次你都在往上提，他遲早會說，我不想再這樣了。

And all these people will kind of like turn back to the guy in the lab coat like, you know, what do I do?

所有這些人都會回頭看那個穿白大褂的人，就像這樣，你知道，我該怎麼辦？

And the guy in the lab coat almost every time would say something as simple as it's important that you continue or the experiment requires that you continue.

而那個穿白大褂的傢伙幾乎每次都會說一些很簡單的話，比如你必須繼續，或者實驗要求你繼續。

So they keep going and keep going and keep going.

於是，他們就這樣不停地走，不停地走，不停地走。

And at around 350 volts, every sound in the room across the wall stops.

在 350 伏特左右的電壓下，隔牆房間裡的所有聲音都會停止。

And then he stops answering questions altogether.

There's no response to these questions because he's pushing this little button that indicates like A, B, C, D. And you turn around to the guy in the lab coat again.

這些問題都沒有答案，因為他在按這個小按鈕，按鈕上顯示的是 A、B、C、D。

The guy in the lab coat says any non-answer must be treated as an incorrect answer.

穿白大褂的人說，任何非答案都必須被視為錯誤答案。

And they kept going, shocking what they assumed, which was an actor.

他們繼續往前走，讓人震驚的是，他們以為那是個演員。

But they assumed that this is a real person and they're suffering and maybe unconscious at this point.

但他們認為這是一個真實的人，他們正在受苦受難，也許此時已經失去了知覺。

So before this experiment started, all these psychologists got together and they said, you know, how many people are going to go through with this?

是以，在實驗開始之前，所有這些心理學家聚在一起，他們說，你知道，有多少人會去做這個實驗？

And they said 0.07% I think was the answer.

They said anybody that would go through with this is a psychopath and wants to hurt other human beings.

他們說，任何會這樣做的人都是精神病患者，都想傷害其他人。

So the experiment concluded 67% of people went all the way, all the way.

是以，實驗得出的結論是，67% 的人一直走，一直走。

And 250 volts is enough to kill you based on amps.

根據安培數計算，250 伏特足以致命。

But 100% of people went up to 250 volts, 100%.

但 100%的人都升到了 250 伏，100%。

People have replicated it in different environments and different changes.

人們在不同的環境和不同的變化中複製了它。

Some of the experiments, they physically made the participant hold the person's hand down on a metal plate that was shocking them.

在一些實驗中，他們讓參與者用手按住一塊金屬板，使其受到震動。

And they went back and they said, this is a study of obedience to authority because this was during the Nuremberg trials going on and all of the former Nazis saying, I was just following orders.

他們回去後說，這是一項關於服從權威的研究，因為當時正值紐倫堡審判期間，所有前納粹分子都說，我只是服從命令。

米爾格拉姆博士的父母是猶太人

Will people just do what they're told to do?

And they thought that this was all about authority.

他們認為這一切都與權威有關。

是以，人們現在正處於掙扎之中。

All over the internet, you can see stuff like sales training, like sales training mastery.

在整個互聯網上，你都能看到銷售培訓、銷售培訓大師之類的東西。

If I can, in 40 minutes, I can talk a total stranger into committing murder, wouldn't you think that that's harder than selling them a car?

如果我能在 40 分鐘內說服一個完全陌生的人去殺人，你不覺得這比賣給他們一輛車還難嗎？

And those people in the Milgram experiment, there was no secret hypnotic technique.

米爾格拉姆實驗中的那些人，並沒有什麼祕密的催眠術。

They didn't inject them with some LSD or something before the thing happened.

在事情發生之前，他們沒有給他們注射迷幻藥之類的東西。

They didn't have some secret handshake or they'd touch them a certain way or hypnotize them.

他們沒有什麼祕密的握手方式，也不會用某種方式撫摸他們或催眠他們。

It was just how responsive our mammalian part of our brain is to authority.

這就是我們大腦中的哺乳動物部分對權威的反應。

But they missed one element of that, which we can talk about later.

但他們忽略了其中的一個因素，我們稍後再談。

But that's how incredible authority really is when it comes to influence and persuasion in human behavior.

但在影響和說服人類行為方面，權威就是如此不可思議。

Now that leads me to a little bit what we were talking to before we started recording this podcast, talking about certain folks.

這讓我想到了我們在錄製這個播客之前的一點話題，就是關於某些人的。

See things going on in the world and automatically assume that this thing is some sort of psyop or some sort of psychological.

看到世界上發生的事情，就自動認為這是某種心理戰或某種心理。

For example, the guy Crooks, I think his name was, that tried to shoot Trump and got killed immediately afterwards and then gets his identity scrubbed from the internet.

例如，克魯克斯，我記得他叫什麼名字，曾試圖射殺特朗普，之後立即被殺，然後他的身份就被從互聯網上抹去了。

Or you even have the guy who just murdered the healthcare CEO two weeks ago or a week ago, whatever it was.

甚至還有兩週前或一週前剛剛謀殺了醫療保健公司首席執行官的人，不管是什麼人。

So many people love to jump online to immediately like this guy was a Manchurian candidate or this guy was somehow co-opted by somebody in intelligence or the FBI or whatever and manipulated to do this.

很多人喜歡在網上跳來跳去，馬上就說這個人是滿洲候選人，或者這個人是被情報部門或聯邦調查局的人或其他什麼人合夥操縱的。

It makes a lot of sense and it's easy to draw connections to that kind of thing.

這很有道理，也很容易讓人聯想到這類事情。

But how much of that do you think is real that goes on today in this day and age?

但在當今時代，你認為有多少是真實的呢？

But I want you to, here's the mistake a lot of those people make, and I hope I don't piss them off by saying this, but it's not about the technique.

但我希望你們注意，很多人都會犯一個錯誤，我希望我這麼說不會惹惱他們，但這與技術無關。

A lot of people think, oh, you need all this training, I'm going to inject this person,

很多人認為，哦，你需要這些培訓，我要給這個人注射、

I'm going to do secret messages into their brain using some machine or something like that.

我要用機器或類似的東西向他們的大腦發送祕密資訊。

If I'm an authority in a person's life and I say, hey man, you know what you need to do?

如果我是一個人生活中的權威，我說，嘿，夥計，你知道你需要做什麼嗎？

Because it's not about the right skills, it's about the ability to select the right target or to select the right candidate to perform the action.

因為這與正確的技能無關，而是與選擇正確的目標或選擇正確的候選人來執行行動的能力有關。

This goes all the way back to Bobby Kennedy, RFK's dad, who was killed by a guy named Sirhan

這要追溯到肯尼迪的父親鮑比-肯尼迪，他是被一個叫瑟罕的人殺死的。

I believe that that was on purpose and I think that that was very heavily influenced.

我相信這是故意的，我認為這受到了很大的影響。

I went to the prison to sit down with Sirhan a few years ago.

幾年前，我曾去監獄與西爾汗會面。

I booked a flight, got a hotel, had all these forms filled out, walked in the front door, handed over my driver's license to sign in and all that stuff, and they said, he's sick.

我訂了機票，找了酒店，填了所有這些表格，走進前門，遞上駕照簽到，然後他們說，他病了。

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