Name: 南達科他州的這個地區大約有 70% 的人投票支持特朗普。以下是他們現在的想法 (This area of South Dakota voted for Trump by roughly 70%. Here's what they think now)
Uploaded: 2025-04-20T11:44:37.000Z
Duration: 10 min 27 s

There was no way in hell I wanted her out there.

But now I don't know what would have been better.

但現在我不知道怎樣做會更好。

I was expecting the lower cost of a lot of just your everyday living things and hoping that he would make things better for everybody in America because that's what we need.

我期待他能降低很多日常生活物品的成本，希望他能讓美國的每個人生活得更好，因為這正是我們所需要的。

Groceries are already outrageous and then we put the tariffs on across the seas or whatever like China all that.

雜貨已經貴得離譜了，我們還要加徵關稅，比如中國的關稅等等。

It just makes everything more expensive for everybody.

這隻會讓每個人都付出更高的代價。

Jamie Basinger is the only person we met in eastern South Dakota who openly questioned her own political views.

傑米-貝辛格是我們在南達科他州東部遇到的唯一一個公開質疑自己政治觀點的人。

Most people we talked to said it was risky to talk about politics here even as the effects of Trump's tariffs loomed over the agricultural economy in an area that voted for him by about 70%.

與我們交談過的大多數人都說，在這裡談論政治是有風險的，即使特朗普關稅的影響籠罩著農業經濟，而這個地區有大約 70% 的人投票支持特朗普。

Generally opinions were divided between trust Trump's plan and how can you still like this guy.

人們普遍認為，特朗普的計劃值得信任，而你怎麼還能喜歡這傢伙呢？

I'd like to talk about that a little bit.

She's a Democrat and her husband is a conservative non-voter.

她是民主黨人，她的丈夫是保守的非選民。

Basically if a company needs to ship bricks she'll find you a flatbed truck.

基本上，如果一家公司需要運磚，她就會給你找一輛平板卡車。

If you need to ship meat she'll get you a refrigerated truck.

如果你需要運輸肉類，她會給你找一輛冷藏車。

Can you guys like fork a pallet jack into the back of the trailer for him to pallet jack him to the front?

你們能不能把托盤千斤頂叉到拖車後面，讓他用托盤千斤頂把他頂到前面？

This gives her a window into real-time shifts in the economy.

這為她提供了一個瞭解經濟實時變化的窗口。

People are making different decisions for different reasons but you know some of its hesitation some of its actual price changes.

人們出於不同的原因做出了不同的決定，但你知道，其中有些是猶豫不決，有些是實際價格變化。

Everybody just wants some stability right now.

She says China's retaliatory tariffs on American pork and beef could lead to higher prices on fruit.

她說，中國對美國豬肉和牛肉徵收報復性關稅可能導致水果價格上漲。

Right now it's produce season in California.

現在正是加利福尼亞的農產品季節。

If it doesn't go the price of produce is gonna go up even that much more because they're gonna have to pay more for the trucks.

如果不這樣做，農產品的價格還會上漲，因為他們要為卡車支付更多的費用。

You know as we've talked about you're in a really conservative area very pro-Trump area like do you feel frustrated in trying to talk to your neighbors about what's going on?

你知道，正如我們所說的，你所在的地區非常保守，非常親特朗普，你在試圖與鄰居們談論發生了什麼事時是否感到沮喪？

Yeah you know it's the biggest thing that frustrates me is that I just feel like nobody cares right now until it affects them and I don't understand how they don't see that.

是的，你知道這是最讓我沮喪的事情，我只是覺得現在沒人在乎，直到它影響到他們，我不明白他們怎麼會看不到這一點。

These people aren't dumb and they're not unkind people and selfish people and thoughtless people so I don't understand why they're okay with it.

這些人並不傻，他們也不是不近人情、自私自利和不懂事的人，所以我不明白他們為什麼能接受。

Hofer introduced us to her neighbor Rod Omerud who was feeding cattle and who for now is okay with it.

霍弗向我們介紹了她的鄰居羅德-奧默魯德（Rod Omerud），奧默魯德正在喂牛，目前還沒有問題。

I just think we need to let the president do what he's doing and we need to just see what's gonna happen here and give him a little latitude so that you know if it doesn't work then we're gonna have to try something different.

我只是認為，我們需要讓總統做他正在做的事情，我們只需要看看這裡會發生什麼，給他一點自由度，這樣你就知道，如果它不工作，那麼我們將不得不嘗試不同的東西。

Okay so you're willing to let the president try some stuff to see?

好吧，你願意讓總統嘗試一些東西看看？

Let's give the president a chance and we'll just have to go from there.

讓我們給總統一個機會，然後再做決定。

Tommy Beruth thinks we already give it a chance.

湯米-貝魯斯認為我們已經給了它一個機會。

He's a retired soybean farmer who saw what happened in 2018 when Trump put tariffs on China.

他是一位退休的大豆種植者，親眼目睹了 2018 年特朗普對中國徵收關稅時發生的一切。

The export market just went right down the tube because these countries could buy them from other places cheaper.

由於這些國家可以從其他地方以更低的價格購買這些產品，出口市場就這樣一落千丈。

Brazil and other countries were the ones that benefited from that.

I read that it that way that now China buys a lot more from Brazil.

我在書上看到，現在中國從巴西買的東西更多了。

Exactly and a lot of times those markets don't come back.

沒錯，很多時候，這些市場不會再回來了。

Doug Bjerke 經營著一家草坪修剪公司。

He says Trump's plan will work out in the long term even if some crop prices fall.

他說，即使部分農作物價格下跌，特朗普的計劃從長遠來看也是可行的。

Yeah the price might come down but when them people start starving they're gonna come back to the table.

是的，價格可能會下降，但當人們開始捱餓時，他們就會回到談判桌前。

Yeah we're a gracious gracious nation feeding the world and we shouldn't have to without getting something for it.

是的，我們是一個為世界提供食物的友好國家，我們不應該不勞而獲。

Rick Ekman says in the three days after the tariffs cattle futures dropped below the point of breakeven for his farm.

裡克-埃克曼說，在關稅之後的三天裡，牛期貨跌破了他農場的盈虧平衡點。

I think to get to where he's at today he's stepped on people and he's got no morals I don't think.

我認為，他能走到今天這一步，是踩到了別人，他沒有道德，我不這麼認為。

Why do you think so many of your neighbors do support him?

你認為為什麼你的許多鄰居都支持他？

I don't know I guess I don't see anything good about him.

我不知道，我想我看不出他有什麼優點。

Does it affect the way you think about America?

Terry Nebelsek a lifelong Republican and retired school superintendent was very careful in how he talked about the political climate.

特里-內貝爾塞克（Terry Nebelsek）是一位終身共和黨人，也是一位退休的學校校長，他在談論政治氣候時非常謹慎。

He's concerned that Trump's push to dissolve the Department of Education will cut public school funds for needy kids potentially at a time of economic turmoil.

他擔心，在經濟動盪之際，特朗普推動解散教育部將可能削減貧困兒童的公立學校資金。

If poverty is happening to adults children are hurting and we're adults sometimes just have to work through it and work through it make sure there's food on the table.

如果貧困發生在成年人身上，孩子們就會受到傷害，而我們成年人有時必須努力克服貧困，確保餐桌上有食物。

During that time we have children and adolescents who are forming who they're going to be and I do think that the public school is a collecting point for people to be able to reach those kids and make sure that they're fed and have medical attention and and have their basic needs met.

在此期間，我們的兒童和青少年正在形成他們的未來，我認為公立學校是一個集合點，讓人們能夠接觸到這些孩子，確保他們有飯吃，有醫療照顧，基本需求得到滿足。

Again and again our conversations in this Midwestern nice town came back to character and values.

在這個中西部的美麗小鎮，我們的談話一次又一次地回到了性格和價值觀上。

When Sheila and I raised our children we taught them to be honest you know not try to cheat anybody to respect.

希拉和我在教育孩子時，教導他們要誠實，不要試圖欺騙任何人，要懂得尊重別人。

Do you find a lot of very Republican state.

你是否發現很多非常共和黨的州。

I think it's too soon for them to say they're wrong.

我認為他們現在就說自己錯了還為時過早。

Ellie I love the conversations that you are able to bring to us and bring to light.

埃莉，我喜歡你給我們帶來的對話，也喜歡你給我們帶來的光明。

Given everything that we just saw do the Trump supporters that you spoke to do they regret their vote?

鑑於我們剛剛看到的一切，與您交談過的特朗普支持者是否後悔自己的投票？

I get that question so much particularly from people in bluer states and again and again they say no.

我經常收到這樣的問題，尤其是來自較藍的州的人，但他們一次又一次地說 "不"。

One man described him as courageous and they said they there people have told me they're willing to take a serious financial hit to their own personal finances in order to let him do his thing because they really have faith in him that he's the only one willing to do what needs to be done.

有一個人形容他很有勇氣，他們說，有人告訴我，為了讓他做自己的事情，他們願意在自己的個人財務上承受嚴重的經濟損失，因為他們真的對他有信心，相信他是唯一一個願意做需要做的事情的人。

I think that fascinating that they are willing to say I'm willing to take the hit.

我認為，他們願意說我願意承受打擊，這一點很吸引人。

You know take that pain but how long at that big question now.

你知道要承受這種痛苦，但現在的大問題是要承受多久。

So talking about the tariffs obviously over the last several weeks we've seen Donald Trump the president losing support among voters writ large over the tariffs.

是以，在過去幾周裡，我們看到唐納德-特朗普總統因關稅問題而失去了廣大選民的支持。

His numbers on the economy are going south.

He's hemorrhaging support among independents on the economy.

在經濟問題上，他在無黨派人士中的支持率正在下降。

He just happens to be the one man standing beside me right now.

他恰好就是現在站在我身邊的那個人。

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南達科他州的這個地區大約有 70% 的人投票支持特朗普。以下是他們現在的想法 (This area of South Dakota voted for Trump by roughly 70%. Here's what they think now)

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