Name: 我們完全團結一致民主黨一心對抗特朗普，共和黨卻出現裂痕：參議員舒默 ('We are totally united': Dems on their front-feet against Trump, GOP is showing cracks: Sen. Schumer)
Uploaded: 2025-04-11T15:00:21.000Z
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I do hope and believe that it is a very strong signal to the markets, to investors, job creators, entrepreneurs, the people that make the economy run, that Congress is going to get us on sound footing.

我確實希望並相信，這是向市場、投資者、就業創造者、企業家以及使經濟運轉的人們發出的一個非常強烈的信號，即國會將使我們站穩腳跟。

And you can count on that, and you can bet on it, and you ought to, I think today would be a great day to buy stocks.

我認為今天是購買股票的大好時機。

That was House Speaker Mike Johnson encouraging Americans to buy stocks after yesterday's vote on a budget blueprint.

這是眾議院議長邁克-約翰遜（Mike Johnson）在昨天就預算藍圖投票後鼓勵美國人購買股票。

I've got to say, the budget blueprint, in my opinion, as a former Republican, as a current conservative, who's part of balancing the budget four years in a row, is probably the most reckless budget blueprint I've ever seen in my life.

我不得不說，在我看來，作為一名前共和黨人，作為一名連續四年參與平衡預算的現任保守派，這份預算藍圖可能是我這輩子見過的最魯莽的預算藍圖。

Adds $4 trillion, $5 trillion to our already bloated $36 trillion national debt.

在我們已經膨脹到 36 萬億美元的國債基礎上，再增加 4 萬億、5 萬億美元。

Let's bring it right now, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York.

現在請紐約州參議院少數黨領袖查克-舒默發言。

So, Senator, I have preached from the fiscal hawk side of this matter.

是以，參議員，我在這件事上是站在財政鷹派的立場上說教的。

I'm curious, your thoughts on the budget resolution, and what I really want to focus on, because we're going to be having Mike Lawler on later on, and I'll let him know what I'm going to be asking him.

我很好奇，你對預算決議的看法，以及我真正想關注的問題，因為稍後我們將請麥克-勞勒（Mike Lawler）發言，我會讓他知道我要問他什麼。

You've got the possibility of just savage cuts to Medicaid, which would just destroy health care in upstate New York and other rural regions.

你有可能野蠻削減醫療補助，這將摧毀紐約州北部和其他農村地區的醫療服務。

What are your thoughts about this budget after that lead-in question?

在這個引子問題之後，您對這份預算有什麼看法？

It's a huge mess, and the Republicans are busy fighting among themselves.

這是一個巨大的爛攤子，共和黨人正忙於自相殘殺。

The House and Senate Republicans can't agree with each other.

眾議院和參議院的共和黨人無法達成一致。

The Republicans within the House and within the Senate, why?

眾議院和參議院的共和黨人，為什麼？

Because they know the budget is highly unpopular with the American people.

因為他們知道，預算案在美國人民中很不受歡迎。

No one wants these savage cuts to Medicaid.

沒有人希望對醫療補助計劃進行這些野蠻的削減。

It will decimate health care for so many people, poorer people and elderly people who are in nursing homes.

這將削弱許多人、貧困人口和養老院老人的醫療保健服務。

Many of these nursing homes would close under the extent of their cuts.

在他們的削減幅度下，許多養老院都將關閉。

I went to Staten Island, a Republican district. 18,000 people will lose their jobs if they had these Medicaid cuts.

我去了共和黨選區史坦頓島。如果削減醫療補助，將有1.8萬人失業。

It would cause a recession on Staten Island.

They hate, and why are they doing this and going after Social Security?

他們憎恨，他們為什麼要這樣做，為什麼要對社會保障下手？

And yet, by closing offices, by turning off phone lines, by not even allowing emails to be done, they're strangling that.

然而，通過關閉辦公室、切斷電話線、甚至不允許發送電子郵件，他們正在扼殺這一切。

And why are they doing all of this and so much worse?

他們為什麼要做這些事，甚至做得更糟？

Both sides are highly unpopular with the American people, and we Democrats are fighting every day to show the American people how bad this budget is, how awful it is for them, how awful the tariffs are.

雙方都極不受美國人民歡迎，而我們民主黨人每天都在戰鬥，向美國人民展示這份預算有多糟糕，對他們有多糟糕，關稅有多糟糕。

我的意思是，還是能籌集到 4400 美元。

The average American family will pay more.

The average IRA in America, people have, this is their savings, has gone down close to $100,000.

在美國，人們平均擁有的 IRA（這是他們的儲蓄）已經減少了近 10 萬美元。

There's chaos in the land because Trump's policies are both unpopular and chaotic, as you saw with the tariffs.

這片土地上一片混亂，因為特朗普的政策既不得人心又混亂不堪，正如你們在關稅問題上看到的那樣。

Right now, Democrats, I know you've seen the polls, have the lowest approval rating in history.

現在，民主黨人的支持率是歷史上最低的，我知道你們已經看過民意調查了。

How do they turn that around talking about this budget?

他們在談論這份預算時如何扭轉這種局面？

Is there going to be a coordinated message?

Are we going to have Democrats continuing to fight each other, or is there going to be a coordinated message moving forward?

民主黨人會繼續互相爭鬥，還是會有一個協調一致的資訊？

What is that message to working class voters who voted for me in the 90s, who voted for a lot of other Republicans in the early 21st century, and those families making less than $50,000 that went for Donald Trump in 2024?

對於那些在上世紀90年代投票支持我、在21世紀初投票支持其他許多共和黨人的工人階級選民，以及那些在2024年投票支持唐納德-特朗普的收入低於5萬美元的家庭來說，這又是什麼資訊呢？

The coordinated message is very simple, and that is this budget is hurting you.

協調後的資訊非常簡單，那就是這份預算正在傷害你們。

What President Trump is doing is raising your prices.

特朗普總統正在做的就是提高你們的價格。

他說他會在第一天就降低成本。

Inflation is up, and the tariffs will make it worse.

通脹上升，關稅會使情況更糟。

And in the budget, we will try to say he cannot do these tariffs.

而在預算中，我們將試圖說他不能徵收這些關稅。

We will also show them how cutting Medicaid, they know it, cutting Medicaid is going to be harmful to them.

我們還將向他們展示，削減醫療補助計劃（Medicaid）會對他們造成怎樣的傷害，他們是知道的。

And Democrats every day are showing them.

而民主黨人每天都在向他們展示。

We're going to have, we have our Easter Passover recess.

我們將迎來複活節逾越節休會。

On Tuesday, in the Senate and the House, Hakeem and I and our Senate and House leaderships are in total coordination.

週二，在參議院和眾議院，哈基姆和我以及我們的參議院和眾議院領導層進行了全面協調。

We discussed this this week and put a plan in place.

我們本週討論了這個問題，並制定了一項計劃。

On Tuesday will be a Social Security day of action.

Millions and millions of elderly people will be contacted by their senators, by their congressmen into not cutting Social Security.

數以百萬計的老年人將與他們的參議員和眾議員聯繫，要求他們不要削減社會保障。

On Thursday, there will be a Medicaid day of action to show people how bad, in Republican districts as you brought up in particular, the Medicaid cuts will be.

週四，將舉行醫療補助行動日，向人們展示在共和黨選區，特別是在你提到的共和黨選區，醫療補助的削減將是多麼糟糕。

And the week after, it's going to be cost of living week, how your costs are going up because of the incompetence, the chaos, and the singular focus on helping wealthy people that's in this budget.

之後的一週，將是生活成本週，你的成本將如何上漲，因為預算案中的無能、混亂和只顧幫助富人。

Every day we're focusing on these issues.

Every day the American people are learning how Donald Trump is betraying them, that he's not on their side.

美國人民每天都在瞭解唐納德-特朗普是如何背叛他們的，他並不站在他們一邊。

What he promised in the campaign isn't true.

And I believe that Democrats are, we are on our front foot because there is so many bad things Trump is doing and we are resolute in fighting them and showing them to the American people every single day.

我相信，民主黨人會，我們會站在前臺，因為特朗普做了很多壞事，我們會堅決與之鬥爭，每天都向美國人民展示這些壞事。

And we're getting a huge response across the country.

我們在全國各地得到了巨大的反響。

You saw what happened Saturday in terms of the demonstrations.

你們也看到了週六發生的示威活動。

We have the host of Way Too Early with us, Ali Vitale, and she has the next question.  Hi, Senator Schumer, it's nice to see you.

我們請到了《為時尚早》的主持人阿里-維塔爾 她將回答下一個問題  你好，舒默參議員，很高興見到你。

I do want to ask you, since the shutdown battle, your mindset at the time was that the United States wasn't yet in a constitutional crisis.

我確實想問你，自停擺之戰以來，你當時的心態是美國還沒有陷入憲法危機。

A few weeks later, you said that you did think that the lawlessness of the president has brought us into that posture.

幾周後，你說你確實認為總統的無法無天讓我們陷入了這種境地。

Then how does that change the way that you fight on the budget battle?

那麼，這將如何改變你在預算戰役中的戰鬥方式？

I've heard you say that the goal is to fight, but how?

我聽你說過，目標是戰鬥，但怎麼戰鬥？

We're fighting, as I said, on the legislative front.

正如我所說，我們正在立法方面進行鬥爭。

And Republicans, Ali, are beginning to show cracks.

而共和黨人阿里也開始出現裂痕。

They're realizing embracing Trump, it doesn't work.

他們意識到擁抱特朗普是行不通的。

So we had seven or eight Republicans join in a bipartisan resolution saying Congress has to pass tariffs, not anybody else.

是以，我們有七八位共和黨人加入了一項兩黨決議，表示必須由國會通過關稅，而不是其他人。

Yesterday, four Republicans in the Senate, that's enough to turn over for us to win, said they don't like doing away with the clean energy in solar and wind and the brakes that have created millions of jobs.

昨天，參議院的四位共和黨人表示，他們不喜歡取消太陽能、風能和剎車等清潔能源，這些能源已經創造了數百萬個就業崗位。

And on the tax cuts, you have a whole bunch of Republicans who say you've got to pay for them, a bunch of others in the Senate are saying don't pay for them if they don't pay for them.

在減稅問題上，有一大批共和黨人說，你必須為減稅買單，參議院的其他一些人則說，如果他們不買單，就不要為減稅買單。

You know, the CBO just estimated if they do this clear policy baseline proposal, the deficit would go up $72 trillion in 30 years.

要知道，CBO 剛剛估算出，如果按照這個明確的政策基線提案，30 年內赤字將增加 72 萬億美元。

And that is going to have huge effects on what people pay to buy a car, to buy a home.

這將對人們買車、買房的費用產生巨大影響。

So we Trump people are realizing how bad Trump is, how bad he is for average working families and our job.

是以，我們特朗普人意識到特朗普有多糟糕，他對普通工薪家庭和我們的工作有多糟糕。

You don't see any divisions in the Democrats the way you do with the Republicans.

你在民主黨內看不到任何分歧，就像在共和黨內一樣。

For instance, when we had our first vote on the budget reconciliation, we had 27 amendments.

例如，當我們就預算和解進行第一次表決時，我們有 27 項修正案。

Every Democrat supported every one of those amendments.

每個民主黨人都支持這些修正案。

They're beginning to show cracks and defecting because they know embracing Trump is not what the American people want.

他們開始出現裂痕並叛逃，因為他們知道擁護特朗普並不是美國人民想要的。

And we Democrats are showing them that every day.

我們民主黨人每天都在向他們展示這一點。

As part of these budget negotiations, a handful of Democratic ideas were stripped from the legislation, including reversing doge cuts to the Social Security Administration, rescinding the tariffs, preventing Medicaid cuts, even prohibiting using commercial messaging apps, i.e.

作為預算談判的一部分，民主黨的一些主張被從立法中刪除，包括扭轉對社會保障局的gege削減，取消關稅，防止醫療補助削減，甚至禁止使用商業信息應用程序，即......。

Signal, to talk about military operations.

So talk to us about what that message Republicans are sending.

所以，請跟我們談談共和黨人傳遞的資訊是什麼。

The Republicans are sending a message that they're chaotic, that they're so in obeisance to Donald Trump.

共和黨傳遞出的資訊是，他們很混亂，他們對唐納德-特朗普言聽計從。

And even when he makes huge mistakes, like on that signal chain, letting classified information go to a reporter who had no classification qualifications, they even defend that.

即使他犯了大錯，比如在信號鏈上，讓沒有保密資格的記者得到機密信息，他們也會為之辯護。

But that's going to that is going to hurt them, because public opinion, public opinion is everything.

但這會傷害到他們，因為公眾輿論就是一切。

And the public is turning against what Donald Trump is doing across the board.

公眾正在全面反對唐納德-特朗普的所作所為。

And one word that could describe it all, whether it's the tax cuts for the rich, whether it's slashing Medicaid and Social Security, whether it's the tariffs or whether it's what he did on signal, is chaos.

無論是為富人減稅，還是削減醫療補助和社會保障，無論是關稅還是他在信號問題上的所作所為，都可以用一個詞來形容，那就是 "混亂"。

The average American sees chaos when they go to the grocery store and see these prices all over the place and the shortages.

普通美國人去雜貨店買東西時看到的是一片混亂，到處都是這些價格和短缺。

The average American sees chaos when they see that their 401k has gone down maybe close to $100,000, the money they put in every month thinking, at least I'll have a nest egg for my retirement.

當普通美國人看到自己的 401k 存款可能減少了近 10 萬美元時，他們會看到一片混亂，他們每個月存入的錢都在想，至少我還能有個養老金。

The American people see chaos when they see these billionaires seeming to run the government just for themselves.

當美國人民看到這些億萬富翁似乎只為自己管理政府時，他們看到的是混亂。

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