I had not said a word, I was like, I thought that was so interesting that she recognized which to me was the thing that it was so extraordinary about this cover was it's like, not concerned, it's all ego in the best possible way to me, meaning like, everybody on the editorial side was like, yeah, we don't have to put anything else here, and it's not about me, this is about their own ability to create image and know, know what to do on a cover of magazine, which I don't know what to do, but it's striking in its absolute bareness.