Name: 2011年達沃斯年會--就業的未來。 (Davos Annual Meeting 2011 - The Future of Employment)
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Male Speaker:  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the CNBC Debate

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This debate is being televised by CNBC, and your presence is considered your

Maria Bartiromo:  Good morning everyone. Thank you so much for joining us this

morning. For the first time in a long time, if not

ever, there is a conversation happening around the world that is questioning the

sustainability of the super power status of the West.

Why is the West not working? We are here today to talk about one of

the most urgent problems of our time, unemployment.

The global recession has resulted in a massive loss of jobs, creating what the

head of the IMF has called "a wasteland of unemployment," and Dominique Strauss-Kahn

President Barack Obama:  That world has changed, and for many, the change has been

I've seen it in the shuttered windows of once booming factories and the vacant

I've heard it in the frustrations of Americans who've seen their paychecks

dwindle or their jobs disappear -- proud men and women who feel like the rules have

Maria Bartiromo:  Without jobs, the economy cannot recover.

We are here today to find solutions. Meet our panelists: Arianna Huffington of

The Huffington Post; Naveen Jindal, the head of Jindal Steel and Power; Laura

Tyson, professor at the University of California Berkeley and an adviser to the

Obama administration; and Philip Jennings, General Secretary of

UNI Global Union. Ladies and gentlemen, our challengers.

Today's debate is in two parts and in each of these, a motion will be argued by our

They'll have 90 seconds to make their case.

They'll then face questions from our challengers and from all of you,

the audience. We are looking forward to your

participation so get ready with your questions.

Motion 1: For a dynamic workforce, go East.

Most of the jobs lost since 2007 have disappeared from the West.

Meanwhile, some emerging countries have barely felt the recession.

In the battle of jobs, who is winning? Manuel Salazar:  We recorded open

unemployment going up by more than 30 million people.

It becomes more and more difficult to get those millions of people out of the

Ian Cheshire:  Our key challenge in the West is to prepare for the next generation

of jobs, the type of skills that will be needed, the type of industries that will

be around in 20 years. Ben Jealous:  We need vision for how we in

the West continue to employ people who have fewer skills or whose skills can be

found somewhere else for cheaper. David Arkless:  In places like China,

Vietnam, Indonesia, where the workforce is probably as dynamic as we've ever seen in

the industrial era. President Barack Obama:  When global firms

were asked a few years back where they planned on building new research

and development facilities, nearly 80 percent said either China or India.

David Arkless:  They should be scared about how efficient the Chinese economy

is becoming because it will, if we allow it, dominate the world economy.

The issue is can we compete? Can the West come back?

Maria Bartiromo:  Let me introduce our first advocates.

Arguing for the motion that for a dynamic workforce, go East is Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw,

CEO of Biocon. And against the motion is Barry Silbert,

CEO of SecondMarket. Kiran, please begin.

Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw:  Thanks, Maria. Well, you know, in an interconnected

world, it's just bound to happen that jobs will move from the stagnant mature markets

of the Western Hemisphere to the very vibrant and high-growth markets in the

East. And in an interconnected world, I think

companies will be compelled to move money and jobs to make them more globally

So there is enough evidence to show that this is happening.

I mean if you look at what's happening with companies in U.S. and Europe,

they are on a hiring spree in Asia whilst they are shedding jobs back home.

We have to accept that jobs will move to regions where there is high growth

and higher returns. Manufacturing, conventional,

traditional manufacturing is going to move East because that's where the lower label costs

are. That's where better capital efficiencies

are. So this is the shape of things to come

and the West has to accept it. But having said that, I do believe that

it's not all bad news because the Western consumer has benefited in a big way.

Take for example mobile phones. If it wasn't for the huge economies of

scale created by India and China, you couldn't get those bargain prices at

Walmart or Best Buy. So the way I look at it is that times have

changed and I think the West has to accept that fact that there has to be a different

way of creating new jobs. Jobs being lost have to be replaced with

different jobs. Maria Bartiromo:  Kiran, thank you very

much for that side of the argument. Now let's hear the other.

Barry Sibert:  When I was first approached about participating in this debate, I was

hesitant to accept the invitation to defend the West.

Aside from the fact that I have two very large Asian investors in my company,

how can I overlook the success of incredible entrepreneurs like Ms. Shaw and the many

startups in developing countries blazing paths oftentimes against significant odds?

But it got me thinking given that small businesses are the largest job creators,

what does it take to start a business? I quickly realized that contrary to the

title of the debate, the West is working quite well.

There are really kind of four key critical elements that are necessary to starting

and growing a business. First, you need a skilled and educated

including intellectual property protection. Third, you need a proper balance between

government regulation and free markets. And lastly, you need access to capital.

And it is this final element that I believe the West outshines the East in

particular. The West I believe has the most developed

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