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  • I am so happy to have you here.

    很高興你的蒞臨

  • This is the first time having you on, so thanks.

    這是你第一次來到我的節目,謝謝

  • So I know you were nervous about the entrance.

    我知道你對於進場感到有些緊張

  • I think people feel like they're supposed to dance.

    我想大家都覺得他們應該跳舞

  • And I was really surprised because I

    而我真的很訝異因為

  • was here earlier today for your rehearsal

    我今天提早來這裡參與你的排演

  • and then you abandoned it.

    然而你最終放棄了

  • But we should at least show them the rehearsal

    不過我們至少應該讓大家看看彩排

  • because it was really good.

    因為實在是太精采了

  • [MUSIC PLAYING]

    [播放音樂]

  • [LAUGHING]

    [笑聲]

  • [CHEERING]

    [歡呼]

  • It was good.

    真的很棒

  • [APPLAUSE]

    [鼓掌]

  • Your daughter is looking at you like, I've never

    你的女兒看著你好像在說,我從來沒有

  • seen you dance like that.

    看過你這樣跳舞

  • Hi.

  • So the last time we saw each other

    我們最後一次見到對方

  • it was at the White House.

    是在白宮

  • We both were receiving the Medal of Freedom.

    我們都獲頒自由勳章

  • And that was quite a day, wasn't it?

    那真是特別的一天,不是嗎?

  • That was an amazing group.

    那是一群傑出的人

  • Yeah.

    是的

  • Really, really fun.

    真的,真的很有趣

  • So you are here with your daughter who is 21, right?

    所以今天你和你的女兒一起來的?她 21 歲,對嗎?

  • And you were 21 when you became a billionaire.

    當你 21 歲的時候已經是百萬富翁了

  • Is that right?

    對吧?

  • Almost, yep.

    可以這麼說,是的

  • All right, so around that age.

    差不多是那個年紀

  • You were like the youngest person to become a billionaire,

    那時你好像是最年輕的百萬富翁

  • is that right?

    對嗎?

  • Yeah, in terms of earning it on my own, yeah.

    是的,就白手起家而言,是的

  • Right.

    好的

  • OK.

  • Which is the most important thing.

    那是最重要的

  • So when you were a kid, did you care about money?

    所以當你還是個孩子的時候,你就已經很在乎金錢了嗎?

  • Or you just cared about technology

    還是你只在乎科技

  • and it just happened?

    而金錢只是附加價值?

  • Mostly I loved software.

    我愛的主要是軟體

  • I do remember at the private school

    我還記得在我就讀的

  • I went to there were other kids whose families were better off.

    私立學校,那裡的孩子的家庭背景都非常好

  • Like they had a Porsche or something.

    他們開保時捷還是什麼

  • But it wasn't that big of a deal

    不過那對我而言不算是什麼

  • My thing was that I just loved doing software.

    我喜歡的是程式設計

  • I loved hiring people.

    我喜歡雇用人

  • And I was stunned when it ended up being so valuable.

    我很訝異最後它變得那麼有價值

  • Really?

    真的嗎?

  • Yeah.

    是啊

  • It surprised you?

    你很驚訝?

  • Yeah.

    是的

  • Because I always had to be careful that we

    因為我總是非常小心避免

  • wouldn't hire too many people.

    雇用太多人

  • I was always worried because people

    我總是擔心因為

  • who worked for me were older than me and they had kids.

    替我工作的人都比我年長而且還有孩子

  • And I always thought well what if we don't get paid.

    而我總是想著如果我們得不到報酬

  • Will I be able to meet the payroll?

    我能夠付出薪資嗎?

  • So I was always very conservative

    因此我在財務這塊我總是

  • about the finances.

    非常的保守

  • And then when we did go public, what was I?

    然後當我們公開上市,那時我幾歲?

  • 30, by then.

    30 歲

  • Then I was kind of stunned at what it multiplied out to.

    對於公司價值的倍增我感到震驚

  • Right.

    了解

  • So, when you became a billionaire,

    當你變成一個百萬富翁時,

  • at what point did you start relaxing?

    在那一個時間點,你開始放鬆?

  • Were you still nervous when you became a billionaire?

    當你成為了一個百萬富翁,你還是會緊張嗎?

  • Like I got to watch this?

    像是,我一定要注意這個?

  • Well I always wanted to have enough money in the bank

    我總是希望有足夠的金錢在銀行裡,

  • so that even if our customers didn't pay us for a year,

    就算我們的客人一年都不支付我們款項,

  • we could still keep paying everybody and do the R&D.

    我們仍然可以付每個人薪資,並做研究開發

  • So I'd still be viewed as conservative.

    所以在大家的眼裡我還是被視為保守的

  • I don't have that many things that are extravagant taste

    我沒有很多奢侈品

  • so it didn't change too much.

    這是沒有什麼改變的

  • So nothing really changed.

    所以沒有什麼改變

  • So you didn't say, oh I'm going to buy a Porsche.

    你並沒有說,哦,我要去買一台保時捷

  • I did.

    我買了

  • That I did.

    我的確是買了

  • All right.

    好的

  • Yeah.

    沒錯

  • You did.

    你買了

  • All right.

    好的

  • Yeah, that was an indulgence.

    是啊,那是一個放縱

  • And then eventually, for my travel, I got a plane.

    然後最終為了旅行,我買了台飛機

  • Which is a huge indulgence.

    那是更大的放縱

  • So those are my two.

    這就是我的兩個奢侈品

  • Well not really, because you travel all the time.

    其實也不算是,因為你總是在旅行

  • So that's important that you have a plane.

    因此有一台飛機是很重要的

  • So you have a Porsche and a plane and that's it?

    所以你有一台保時捷和一架飛機,就這樣?

  • Well, in terms of crazy things, yeah.

    就比較瘋狂的事情而言是的

  • Yeah.

    是的

  • There's not like any like wild-- like you

    沒有任何狂熱的-- 像是你

  • didn't build like an aquarium with sharks in it

    沒有建造一座有鯊魚的水族館

  • or something like that?

    或是什麼其他的?

  • We have a trampoline room in our house.

    我們的房子裡有一間跳躍床的房間

  • Oh wow.

  • The kids like that.

    孩子們喜歡

  • Indoor trampoline.

    室內跳躍床

  • I recommend it.

    我推薦它

  • Just one giant trampoline?

    只是一個巨大的跳躍床?

  • Yeah.

    是的

  • Yeah, it's a room with a very high ceiling.

    是,它是一個有著很高的天花板的房間

  • Well yeah, I hope.

    我希望它是

  • That would be cruel if you didn't

    如果天花板不夠高的話

  • put a high ceiling in there.

    那是很殘酷的事

  • Go on kids.

    去吧孩子

  • All right, so let's talk about this.

    好的,讓我們來談談這個

  • So you already put $40 billion of your own money

    所以你已經投入 400 億美金

  • into your foundation.

    在你的基金會裡

  • Yep.

    是的

  • $40 billion.

    400 億美金

  • And you've kind of encouraged other billionaires

    而且你也鼓勵其他的億萬富翁

  • to do this as well.

    做相同的事

  • Because it really is kind of up to the people

    因為解決世界上的種種問題畢竟是

  • to fix the problems in the world, it seems, right?

    很看個人的,似乎是這樣的,對嗎?

  • So what is your main focus right now?

    所以你目前主要的焦點是放在哪裡?

  • My wife Melinda and I picked global health as our big thing.

    我太太梅琳達和我將全球衛生視為我們重要的大事

  • The fact that still we have five million kids

    事實是我們仍有五百萬個五歲以下

  • who die under the age of five.

    的孩子死亡

  • Now it was over 10 million when we

    當我們開始介入時,有超過 1 千萬個

  • got started so there's been huge progress over the last 18

    孩子死亡,所以在過去的 18 年當中

  • years.

    已經有顯著的進步

  • So things like malaria, diarrhea.

    那些像是瘧疾、痢疾的疾病

  • Coming up with new drugs and vaccines

    推出新型藥物和疫苗

  • and getting them out to all the kids in the world.

    並將它們送個世上所有的孩子

  • That's our main thing.

    這是我們主要的重點

  • Our second biggest thing is all in the US,

    我們次要的大事是針對美國,

  • which is trying to help improve the education system here.

    就是幫助改善這裡的教育制度

  • Yeah.

    是的

  • [APPLAUSE]

    [鼓掌]

  • And how do you do that?

    你要如何去做呢?

  • I always think you get what you pay for.

    我總是認為你有付出才有收穫

  • So if you don't pay teachers, because most teachers are

    如果你不付老師們薪水,因為大部分的老師

  • paying out of their own pocket to take care of these students.

    都是自掏腰包去照顧這些學生的

  • So how do you do that?

    你是如何做到的呢?

  • Well, there are some really phenomenal teachers.

    這裡有一些非常傑出的老師們

  • And so the dream is that you could take that top 10%

    所以我們的夢想是取得前百分之十的菁英

  • and have them help the others to get best practices, the best

    讓他們去幫助其他的老師得到最棒的實習,最棒的

  • teaching ideas to spread all over the country.

    教學理念進而傳播到全國各地

  • We're listening to you, obviously $40 billion

    我們得知了,400 億美金明顯地

  • does a lot.

    起了很大的作用

  • And there are other people that are helping.

    這裡還有其他的人在幫忙

  • But what can we do?

    但是我們能夠做些什麼呢?

  • What is the best thing that you could say that just one

    你能夠告訴我們一個人能夠做到最好

  • person can do to help?

    的幫助是什麼呢?

  • Well particularly with schools, the ability

    針對學校來說,能夠

  • to go to the local public school or charter school

    到公立學校或特許學校

  • and engage with the kids, mentor kids,

    和孩子們做交流,指導孩子

  • talk about the kind of work you do.

    談論你所做的工作

  • There's huge opportunities there.

    這裡有無限的機會

  • With the challenges, say in Africa, part of it

    以非洲來說,面對的挑戰一部分是

  • is people's voice.

    人們的表態

  • There's a real question now whether the US takes

    現在真正的問題是美國是否花費

  • this less than 1% of our budget that saves tens of millions

    我們低於百分之 1 的預算去解救數千萬

  • of lives and whether we don't prioritize continuing that.

    的生命,或者我們不繼續優先處理這件事

  • So it's a hot debate in terms of is it good for America

    所以這是一個熱門的辯論議題,慷慨幫助

  • to be generous and help the rest of the world

    世界其他的國家過著健康的生活

  • live a healthy life.

    對於美國而言是否有益

  • Well, I mean the fact that you're helping so many people

    我的意思是你正幫助世界各地

  • all around the world.

    很多的人

  • Because that, to me, is what when you have

    那對我而言就是

  • that kind of money, it's for.

    金錢真正的用處

  • That's the best thing you can do actually.

    事實上,那是你可以做的最好的事

  • You're making such a huge difference.

    世界因為你而不同

  • I'm glad you're a billionaire.

    我很高興你是個億萬富翁

  • [APPLAUSE]

    [鼓掌]

  • All right, you can learn more about the Bill and Melinda

    好的,你可以利用網站和 gatesletter.com 去了解

  • Gates Foundation on the website and gatesletter.com.

    更多有關於 Bill and Melinda Foundation 所做的事

I am so happy to have you here.

很高興你的蒞臨