Name: 動畫勵志：穿針引線！ (Animation Motivation: Thread the Needle)
Uploaded: 2026-03-26T16:36:13.000Z
Duration: 6 min 45 s

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Anything contacting the ground is always a really big deal.

任何跟地面接觸的東西，總是個大工程。

I'm Cody Lyon, I'm an animator at Pixar, and this is Animation Motivation.

我是 Cody Lyon，在 Pixar 當動畫師，這裡是 Animation Motivation。

I was born in a town called Silt, Colorado.

我出生在一個叫做 Silt 的科羅拉多小鎮。

我在那裡長大，住了我一輩子。

It's a very small town in western Colorado, so the big stuff to do out there is, like, skiing, mountain biking, riding dirt bikes, spending time outside.

那是個位於科羅拉多西部非常小的城鎮，所以那裡最常做的活動就是滑雪、登山車、騎越野機車，還有戶外活動。

I loved movies and cartoons and drawing, and, um, kind of a combination of those two things is what I loved doing.

我喜歡電影、卡通和畫畫，嗯，這些東西的組合就是我喜歡做的事。

I was always a fan of animation growing up.

There's very few moments in my life where it was like, the path forward is so clear, and

我人生中很少有那種，未來的路這麼清晰的時刻，

It was like, I—I want to work at Pixar.

我當時就想：「我——我想去 Pixar 工作。」

I remember, like, waiting in line for the opening of Incredibles in our local theater, and

我記得，像是為了《超人特攻隊》在我們鎮上的電影院首映而排隊，

I still actually have the poster from the—the local movie theater that they let my dad buy from them, and

我還留著那張電影院的電影海報，他們讓我爸買下來的，

They were fine with me going to art school.

我從小就是個很、很積極的小孩。

It wasn't really, like, "I kind of have a plan, and

並不是那種「我大概有個計畫，

we'll see what happens." I was motivated enough.

然後看情況發展」的感覺。我很有動力。

I made films in high school and tried to teach myself animation there, so they were very much supportive.

我高中時就拍電影，也在那裡試著自學動畫，所以他們非常支持。

I thought being an animator was something different than when I got here.

我以前以為當動畫師跟現在進來後發現的不太一樣。

You see the behind-the-scenes footage sometimes of the older movies, and

你們有時會看到老電影的幕後花絮，

everybody's, like, goofing off and kind of making a movie on the side.

裡面大家都在玩鬧，好像順便拍電影一樣。

When I started working here, it was like, "Ooh, this is a place full of professionals who are really passionate about movie making." And animators specifically are all about character performance, the thought process of the characters, and

我剛開始在這裡工作時，感覺「哇，這裡充滿了對電影製作充滿熱情的專業人士。」而動畫師特別注重角色表演、角色的思考過程，

what they're thinking at the time, how they're feeling, how they might react.

以及他們當下的想法、感受，還有他們可能會如何反應。

It's, like, surprisingly very in-depth discussions about the psychology of these characters going through these actions.

這些關於角色在執行這些動作時的心理狀態的討論，竟然出奇地深入。

So I think being an animator is about stepping in the shoes of somebody else and really trying to empathize with how they might feel in that moment.

所以我認為當動畫師就是要設身處地為別人著想，真正試著同理他們那一刻可能會有的感受。

My favorite types of shots to animate are actually physicality, body mechanics, characters moving around quite a lot, doing backflips or picking each other up.

我最喜歡的動畫鏡頭類型其實是肢體動作、身體力學，角色有很多移動、做後空翻或互相抱起。

It's something about the motion of human bodies and getting weight and interesting timing out of it is really exciting to me.

關於人體運動、展現重量感和有趣的時機，這件事對我來說真的很令人興奮。

Any shot that looks really complicated, I'm like, "I don't know how to do that." That's what I like to do.

任何看起來很複雜的鏡頭，我都會想「我不知道怎麼做耶。」這就是我喜歡做的。

Like, my—my first film was Coco, so, like, the thing that stands out from that one is I got to animate the—the Frida Kahlo dancers in the background, like, climbing the papaya and the cactus.

像是，我—我的第一部電影是《可可夜總會》(Coco)，所以，那部電影裡讓我印象深刻的是，我負責動畫製作背景裡的芙烈達·卡蘿舞者，像是爬上木瓜樹和仙人掌。

A technical shot with a lot of characters, but

一個有很多角色的技術性鏡頭，

that was kind of my first big, big break, so that was really fun.

但那算是我的第一個大、大突破，所以那段時間真的很有趣。

Incredibles 2, I got to do, uh I got to do Frozen, like, catching the subway as it comes off of the rails.

《超人特攻隊2》(Incredibles 2)，我負責了，呃，我負責了《冰雪奇緣》(Frozen)裡，像是抓住脫軌的的地鐵。

所以，又一次，那真的非常困難。

Toy Story 4, I animated the—the after-credit sequence of Ducky and Bunny kind of growing super, super large with laser vision and fire breath, and

《玩具總動員4》(Toy Story 4)，我動畫製作了片尾彩蛋橋段，鴨霸和兔哥用雷射眼和火焰呼吸變得超級、超級巨大，

I got to work on the—the beginning hockey game in Inside Out 2 of Riley, uh, our kind of reintroduction to Riley and the emotions and her assisting this goal that happens in the game.

我有參與《腦筋急轉彎2》(Inside Out 2) 開頭的曲棍球比賽，飾演萊莉，嗯，算是我們重新認識萊莉和情緒們，還有她協助比賽中進球的過程。

It's one of my favorites because of kind of the journey the shot went on.

這是我最喜歡的鏡頭之一，因為它經歷了很長的製作過程。

It went through quite a lot of iterations.

這個鏡頭經歷了很多次的修改。

It was kind of given to me as, like, "We haven't totally figured this out yet," which are, like, my favorite words to hear when I get an assignment.

它大概是這樣交給我：「我們還沒完全弄好這個」，這聽起來就像是我最喜歡的訓示。

The original idea was that Riley does kind of a drop pass to Grace.

最初的想法是萊莉會給葛蕾絲一個 drop pass。

I didn't know what that was, so, uh, I looked it up.

我不知道那是什麼，所以，嗯，我查了一下。

I found a bunch of hockey clips and hockey references.

我找到了一堆曲棍球的片段和參考資料。

A drop pass is kind of when you're, uh, you're skating along, and

drop pass 大概是當你，嗯，你滑行時，

instead of shooting the puck to someone and passing it, you just kind of leave the puck where it is and skate off, and

與其把球傳給別人，你只是把球留在原地然後滑開，

So it takes a lot of communication with your teammates, and

所以這需要跟隊友有很多的溝通，

that was the idea that they're—that they're working really closely together.

而這就是他們——他們緊密合作的想法。

But when it was kind of set up, it just wasn't quite exciting enough.

但當它被設定好時，就是不夠刺激。

It was supposed to be the—the culmination of this big game, of this big moment.

那本該是這場大賽、這個重要時刻的最高潮。

So initially, Riley's drop pass was between her legs, and

所以一開始，Riley 的 drop pass 是從她兩腿之間傳出，

then she skated off, and the person behind her shot it.

然後她滑開，後面的人就射門了。

But it didn't make a ton of sense because why wouldn't Riley just shoot?

但這沒什麼道理，因為 Riley 為什麼不自己射門就好？

Like, why—why give it to somebody else?

像是，為什麼——為什麼要傳給別人？

There's all this information you're trying to get across.

Riley is, like, really skilled in playing hockey, but not at, like, an NHL level.

Riley 玩曲棍球很厲害，但還不到 NHL 那個等級。

Like, she's not scoring the goal herself.

The play is called Thread the Needle, and Riley shouts to her friends before it happens.

這個 Play 叫做 Thread the Needle，Riley 在它發生前就大喊提醒隊友。

She says, "Thread the needle!" Thread the needle!

她說：「Thread the needle！」Thread the needle！

Which actually was quite the constraint because whatever I figured out kind of had to make sense that they called it Thread the Needle.

這其實是個很大的限制，因為我後來想到的東西，都得要合理地解釋為什麼他們叫它 Thread the Needle。

I did a pass on the shot, what we call, like, Layout Plus.

我做了一個 shot 的 pass，我們稱之為 Layout Plus。

So instead of really animating something and making it really nice, we do a really rough version, kind of treating the characters like, like chess pieces that were just sliding around, like, like playing with action figures just to figure things out.

所以我們不是真的去動畫化，讓它變得非常精緻，而是做一個很粗糙的版本，把角色當成棋子在滑動，就像在玩人偶一樣來找出方法。

So it's like, "Okay, we need to add a defender in there." So I added a defender, and

所以就像是，「好，我們需要加一個防守者進來。」所以我加了一個防守者，

then I talked to one of our resident hockey experts in animation, Tom Zach.

然後我跟我們動畫部門一位專門研究曲棍球的專家 Tom Zach 聊了一下。

He's like, "Oh, the defender should try to, like, kind of swipe for it and go for it, and

他說：「喔，那個防守者應該試著，像是，去搶球，然後去撲球，

that forces Riley to, to pass it." So I tried all these versions and talked it through and ended up with, like, the Thread the Needle is that Riley grabs the puck in a skilled way and pulls it around the defender and drops it through the defender's legs for her for Grace to, to shoot.

這樣就會迫使 Riley，去傳球。」所以我試了所有這些版本，然後討論，最後的結果是，Thread the Needle 就是 Riley 用很技巧的方式拿到球，然後繞過防守者，把球從防守者的兩腿之間傳過去，讓 Grace 來射門。

Ice skating was so difficult to, to animate.

任何接觸地面的東西，總是個大問題。

So in those hockey shots, the challenging parts were Riley's skates are touching the ground, the opponent's skates are touching the ground, Riley's stick is touching the ground, the puck's not sliding perfectly horizontally.

所以在那些曲棍球的鏡頭裡，有挑戰性的部分是 Riley 的冰鞋接觸地面，對手的冰鞋接觸地面，Riley 的球桿接觸地面，球也不是完美水準地滑動。

It's got a little bit of imperfection in the ice that it's skipping across.

它在冰面上稍微有點不完美，然後跳躍過去。

The—the shot plays in real speed and then slows down, and

那個鏡頭以正常速度播放，然後慢下來，

then real speed and slows down, which is all done by hand.

然後是真實速度然後慢下來，這都是手工完成的。

That's not, like, an edit trick we did where we slowed down the footage.

這不是我們用來放慢影片的剪輯技巧。

Animating something in slow motion, I remember it was, like, a big aha moment when I added on Riley's hockey blade after she passes it.

我記得在製作慢動作動畫時，當我加上 Riley 傳球後的冰刀時，那是一個很大的頓悟時刻。

In the slow motion, the blade has some, some warble to it because I found some slow motion footage of a hockey player, and

在慢動作中，冰刀會有些許的晃動，因為我找了一些曲棍球員的慢動作影片，

the blades have so much flexibility, and after you shoot, they're bouncing back and forth, and

而且冰刀有很大的彈性，在你射門後，它們會來回彈動，

it just added this little kind of real texture to it.

這為它增添了一點真實的質感。

But technically speaking, it's just one of the hardest sequences I've ever done.

但技術上來說，這是我做過最難的片段之一。

It's unlike anything I've ever animated before, so it was just uncharted territory to figure all that stuff out.

這是我以前從未做過的動畫，所以要弄清楚所有這些事情都是未知的領域。

I made it way harder for myself, adding in slow motion warps and extending the shot by, like, 100 frames, but

我讓自己變得更難，加入了慢動作變形，並將鏡頭延長了約 100 幀，

I'm really proud of how it feels right for the moment.

而且我對它在當下的感覺非常滿意。

And we introduce Riley as this talented, skilled player and also selfless, and

我們介紹了 Riley 是一位有天賦、技巧高超的選手，同時也很無私，

hopefully, it's enjoyable to watch in the movie.

希望在電影裡看起來會很享受。

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