Name: JENNIE：Zane Lowe 專訪！ 寶石般的獨家揭祕！ (JENNIE: The Ruby Interview with Zane Lowe)
Uploaded: 2026-02-26T16:08:01.000Z
Duration: 48 min 31 s

興奮啊，你知道，大部分都是興奮。

And it's been a little crazy with the last little push for the album.

為了專輯的最後衝刺，最近有點忙翻了。

But every day I'm just, like, reminding myself this is the moment that I've been waiting for.

但我每天都在提醒自己，這就是我一直等待的時刻。

Just so, like, enjoy it as much as I can.

Because we kept getting versions of music obviously super under lock and key.

因為我們一直把音樂版本鎖得很緊。

And it's like three days ago, another version, not final.

然後就像三天前，又一個版本，還沒定案。

I'm like, yo, Jenny's pushing this to the very end.

我整個傻眼，Jenny 把這件事搞到最後一刻。

She's literally in the studio till four in the morning.

Was it hard to say, okay, it has to go, it has to be finished at some point?

是不是很難說，好，就是得這樣，總有一天得完成？

I think that was the biggest lesson that I might have learned off of this album is that knowing how to stop and kind of limiting myself some time to accomplish something.

我覺得從這張專輯裡學到最大的功課，就是知道什麼時候該停止，並且限制自己，才能在某個時間點完成目標。

And I'm not used to that kind of environment, so definitely must have been really nice, actually

我不太習慣那樣的環境，所以肯定很不錯，

to start a process and do some real diligence, some real work into what you want to say and who you want to say it with.

能夠開始一個過程，然後真正地深入研究你想說什麼，以及你想跟誰說。

it must have been really nice to start this and just know you had some time, because I'm also so used to just going and after, just keep going.

開始這個計畫，然後知道自己有時間，肯定很不錯，因為我太習慣一直做、一直做下去了。

Like you said, when I first started working on the album was like, wow, I have a whole year.

就像你說的，我一開始做這張專輯的時候，心想，哇，我有一整年的時間。

And then once I got in the studio for the first time, that's when I was like, oh, my God, I'm already running out of time.

然後一進錄音室，第一次的時候，我就想，我的天啊，我時間已經快不夠用了。

I'm so glad you said that, because I was thinking, this album covers so much of who you are for the first time.

聽到你這麼說我真高興，因為我本來在想，這張專輯第一次這麼完整地呈現了你是誰。

It says so much about who you are, from the fight to the fragility, from the beginning right to the very end.

它說了很多關於你是什麼樣的人，從奮鬥到脆弱，從頭到尾。

You must have got in there and just been like, how do I make sense of all of this?

你一定進去之後就想，我該怎麼理解這一切？

I didn't realize how much I've been distanced from myself throughout the years.

我沒有意識到這些年來我離自己有多遠。

The greatest part of this solo project for me was that I had time with myself and I never had time for myself, which was great.

這個個人企劃最棒的部分是，我有時間跟自己相處，而我以前從來沒有時間給自己，這真的很棒。

So, you know, I really got to dig deep inside of who I am and what I am and, you know, all the Self reflecting times.

所以，你知道的，我真的有機會深入挖掘我是誰、我是什麼，還有，你知道的，所有自我反思的時刻。

喔，付出了好多，而且是最困難的。

So many new emotions that I got to learn.

It needed so much energy and I didn't realize.

它需要好多能量，而我沒有意識到。

To me it was mostly like, what kind of words do I want to put in?

對我來說，大部分都是在想，我想要放進什麼樣的詞句？

I didn't realize walking into the studio was more about what, knowing what I want, what I really want.

我沒有意識到走進錄音室，更多的是關於，知道我想要什麼，我真正想要什麼。

Not just like working with someone who gets you on the day and it's like, oh, we've got a good vibe here.

不只是像跟一個懂你的人合作，然後當天就覺得，喔，我們氣氛很好。

就是，不行，不行，不行，不行。

Every step on this record has to tell another part of your story.

這張專輯的每一步都必須講述你故事的另一部分。

I think when people say I'm working really hard, work is a distraction from self work.

我覺得當大家說我工作很努力的時候，工作其實是分散我做自我探索的注意力。

So it's like, who am I actually hard at work in a lot of ways.

所以這就像，我到底在努力什麼？

We don't get a song like Twin without that.

沒有這首歌，我們就沒有 Twin 這首歌了。

對，這真的是很真實的一首歌。

And I think, you know, a lot of people will respond to the honesty on that, but

我覺得，你知道，很多人會對其中的誠實產生共鳴，但是

And the album's called Ruby and it's one part of a longer name that became a part of your identity.

這張專輯叫做 Ruby，它是你身份認同一部分的那個更長名字的其中一部分。

If the story is correct, when you were young and you were trying to figure out who you were, Tell us the story behind that.

如果故事沒錯的話，你年輕時在摸索自己是誰，可以跟我們聊聊背後的故事嗎？

You were in New Zealand at the time, or this is even earlier than that.

那時候你在紐西蘭，還是更早之前？

This is when I wasn't living in New Zealand.

And back then, I guess in the back of my mind when I was like 11, knew that I want to create this identity for myself.

我猜那時候我大概十一歲，心裡就想著，我想要為自己創造一個身份。

Like Jenny wasn't doing justice for me and I was like, I want a longer name.

像是 Jenny 這個名字對我來說不夠，我想要一個更長的名字。

所以，這個名字就這樣誕生了。

What I didn't realize over time was I almost manifested this throughout my years.

我後來才意識到，我幾乎是透過這些年把它具象化了。

Like I knew who I wanted to be at very young age on.

我從小就知道自己想成為什麼樣的人。

And then it was just a matter of what's gonna make you realize.

然後就只是時間的問題，什麼會讓你意識到。

So that's also one of the reasons why I landed and I picked the name Ruby for this album.

這也是我後來選擇 Ruby 這個名字來發這張專輯的原因之一。

But there's just so much inspiration behind that too.

不過背後其實也有好多靈感喔。

It's not really only about me representing myself, but

對我來說，這不只是代表我自己，

to me it felt like a new chapter opening and I wanted to.

而是感覺像是一個新篇章的開啟，我想要。

I really spent my time referencing many different things about the album.

我真的花了很多時間參考這張專輯的各種東西。

And that's when the Play of As yous like it by Shakespeare came in instantly.

這時候莎士比亞的《皆大歡喜》就立刻出現了。

When I saw the title as yous like it, it just spoke to me so much.

當我看到「皆大歡喜」這個標題時，真的太觸動我了。

In a way, I was like, wow, I don't know what I like, you know, on the same subject as before.

某種程度上，我心想，哇，我不知道我喜歡什麼，你知道的，跟前面講的一樣。

So I told myself, I'm going to make this album as I like it.

所以我告訴自己，我要做出「我喜歡的」這張專輯。

I don't care what anyone else is going to say about it.

And since I started, I got to drop one on that now.

既然我已經開始了，我現在就要來做一個了。

That's a huge moment for you because you're immediately, from what you're telling me, it feels like divorcing yourself, removing any previous expectations or successes and putting it really squarely.

這對你來說是個重要的時刻，因為從你告訴我的來看，感覺就像是你要跟過去的自己劃清界線，擺脫任何先前的期望或成就，然後專注在眼前。

Really, in a very simple phrase, does it move me?

真的，用一句簡單的話來說，這能打動我嗎？

I want to talk about the manifestation side of it a little bit more.

我想多聊聊這部分的「顯化」。

How old were you when you moved to New Zealand?

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