Name: 快訊！司法部愛潑斯坦案卷軸揭露！川普相關文件竟消失無蹤？！ (BREAKING: Trump-related files missing from DOJ's Epstein file release)
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我們先來關注一則重大新聞，來自 Ms.

Now this hour about Trump related files missing from the DOJ's Epstein files release.

就在這個小時，關於 DOJ 的 Epstein files 發布中，有川普相關的檔案遺失了。

Let's bring in Ms. Now senior legal reporter Lisa Rubin, who broke this story.

讓我們請到資深 legal reporter Lisa Rubin，她就是這則獨家報導的記者。

Also with us, our senior White House reporter, Vaughn Hilliard and Ms.

和我們一起的還有資深 White House reporter Vaughn Hilliard，以及 Ms.

NOW legal analyst, former Manhattan DA, Assistant, assistant DA that is Katherine Christian.

現任 legal analyst、前曼哈頓 DA、Assistant DA Katherine Christian。

Well, one of the things I can tell you is that based on documents that are available in the Epstein files, and

嗯，我可以告訴你們的一件事是，根據 Epstein files 中可取得的文件，

we're just going to hold up to you what allowed us to get to this reporting.

我們將直接呈現讓我們能報導這件事的內容。

This is an index of witness statements from people who were not expected to testify at Ghislaine Maxwell's trial, but

這是一份 witness statements 的索引，來自那些預期不會在 Ghislaine Maxwell 審判中作證的人，但

whose statements were nonetheless produced to her defense counsel in the run up to her 21, 2021 trial.

她們的證詞Nonetheless 卻在 Ghislaine Maxwell 2021 年的審判前，被提交給她的辯護律師。

We also have a smaller one with respect to those who were expected to testify.

我們也有一個較小的部分，是關於那些預期會作證的人。

And based on those indices, as well as documents available in the file, Ms.

根據這些索引，以及檔案中可取得的文件，

now can report that there is at least one witness for whom three interviews with the FBI in rapid succession in 2019 are missing.

現在可以報導說，至少有一位證人，她在 2019 年與 FBI 進行了三次連續的訪談紀錄卻遺失了。

You might say, well, what's the big deal about that?

你可能會說，這有什麼大不了的？

Well, the big deal about that is that we can also confirm that that woman is the same person who in a 2025 FBI presentation is identified to have accused Donald Trump of a sexual assault when she was between 13 and 15 years old.

嗯，大不了的地方是，我們也可以證實，這位女性就是 2025 年 FBI 簡報中，被指控 Donald Trump 性侵害的同一人，當時她大約 13 到 15 歲。

We know that based on a human source who has confirmed to us that this woman is one and the same.

我們知道這一點，是因為一位 human source 向我們證實，這位女性就是同一人。

There is a woman who, according to the FBI and documents compiled last summer, accused Donald Trump of sexually assaulting and physically abusing her.

有一位女性，根據 FBI 和去年夏天彙編的文件，指控 Donald Trump 對她進行性侵害和 physically abusing。

One of the things in her accusation is that in addition to forcing her to perform oral sex, he also hit her in that same episode.

在她指控中提到的一件事是，除了強迫她 perform oral sex 之外，在那次事件中，他也對她動手。

We have now connected that woman to someone who was interviewed by the FBI four times in 2019.

我們現在已經證實，這位女性就是 2019 年接受 FBI 四次訪談的同一人。

Of those four interview memoranda, which are listed in this index that I'm holding up right here, only one of them can be seen.

在這四份 interview memoranda 中，就是我手邊這個 index 裡列出的，只有一份是可以看到的。

And in that interview, this the accusations against Trump are not present.

在那次訪談中，並沒有提到對 Trump 的指控。

At the most, she says that she had met Trump on one occasion without detailing it.

最多她只說她曾經見過 Trump 一次，但沒有詳細說明。

And when asked how she understood that Epstein was a person who committed abuse against her, she showed FBI agents a picture that she had been sent by a friend.

當被問到她怎麼知道 Epstein 是對她施虐的人時，她給 FBI 探員看了一張朋友傳給她的照片。

It was a picture that she was reluctant to share with FBI agents because there was somebody else in the photograph.

這張照片她不太願意給 FBI 探員看，因為照片裡還有別人。

It turned out to be, according to this interview memo, a well known photograph of Epstein and Trump together.

結果根據這份 interview memo，那是一張 Epstein 和 Trump 的合照，大家都知道。

She said that she was reluctant to show them the full image lest she incriminates someone that she feared could retaliate against her.

她說她不太願意給他們看整張照片，以免牽連到她害怕會報復她的人。

That's all that we know from what's publicly available in the files.

這就是我們從公開檔案中知道的全部內容。

But we know that this woman had other accusations against Trump.

但我們知道這位女性對 Trump 還有其他的指控。

Where they are listed or where they've been memorialized, we're not sure.

他們被列在哪裡或被記錄在哪裡，我們不確定。

But we can tell you and our viewers that there are three other interview memoranda taken by the FBI that are not present anywhere in the Epstein files.

但我們可以告訴你和我們的觀眾，FBI 還有另外三份 interview memoranda 並沒有出現在 Epstein files 的任何地方。

And this is a problem that we expect may have recurred with dozens of other witnesses who.

這是一個我們預計可能發生在數十位證人身上的問題。

Whose files may not have been produced in their totality.

他們的檔案可能沒有被完整提交。

Again, this index gives a unique numerical identifier to more than 500 witnesses and lists in numerical order the kinds of documents from which their statements were taken.

再說一次，這個索引為超過 500 位證人提供了獨特的數字識別碼，並按數字順序列出了他們 statements 的文件類型。

Everything from FBI interview memos to Palm beach police incident reports to handwritten notes and the like.

從 FBI interview memos、Palm beach police incident reports 到手寫筆記等等。

Going through those methodically, you can see as a layperson or as a reporter, what has been produced in the files and what hasn't.

有條不紊地查看這些，你就可以清楚地看到，無論你是普通人還是 reporter，檔案中有哪些內容，哪些沒有。

And it's our expectation and understanding that there are many other instances in which witnesses, many of whom were alleged victims, don't have all of their statements produced.

我們預期並瞭解到，還有許多其他案例，其中許多證人，包括許多被指控的受害者，他們的 statements 並沒有被完整提交。

If these were important enough to give to Ghislaine Maxwell's defense, it's unclear to me what the rationale is for withholding them from the American public, particularly given the text of the Epstein Files Transparency act on that.

如果這些對 Ghislaine Maxwell 的 defense counsel 來說很重要，那麼我不清楚為什麼要對美國公眾隱瞞這些，特別是考慮到 Epstein Files Transparency act 的內容。

Have they given any reason for withholding these documents?

他們有給出任何理由來說明為什麼要扣留這些文件嗎？

Mississippi NOW has not yet obtained a statement from the Department of Justice.

Mississippi NOW 至今還沒有收到來自司法部的聲明。

However, npr, which was the first to report on this this morning, has obtained a statement from the White House in which they haven't defended the lack of transparency with respect to these three interview memoranda.

不過，今天早上率先報導此事的 npr，已經取得白宮的聲明，其中他們並沒有為這三份 interview memoranda 缺乏透明度辯護。

Instead, they have fallen back on their defense that Donald Trump is the most transparent president in history, that he has fully committed to producing documents in compliance with the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

相反地，他們又搬出了 Donald Trump 是史上最透明的總統，並且完全致力於配合 Epstein Files Transparency Act 提交文件的說詞。

That's a defense that rings hollow to many of us who have been through these files and have seen not only over redaction with respect to some suspects under.

對於我們許多看過這些檔案的人來說，這套說詞聽起來很空洞，因為我們看到的不僅僅是一些嫌疑人被過度塗改。

Over redaction with respect to some individuals, under redaction with respect to survivors, and

一些個人被過度塗改，倖存者被塗改不足，

now inexplicable withholding of documents.

現在還有無法解釋的文件扣留。

So, Catherine, does this appear to be a violation of the Epstein Transparency Act?

那麼，Catherine，這看起來是違反了 Epstein Transparency Act 嗎？

It is if the purpose of withholding it was for reputational harm, meaning of the President of the United States, because that is explicitly prohibited ground for withholding a document.

如果扣留的目的是為了聲譽受損，也就是美國總統的聲譽，那麼就是違法，因為這明確禁止了扣留文件的理由。

Were they taken out by someone in the FBI or DOJ.

You know, we know that hundreds of AUSAs and other members of DOJ were looking at these files and redacting were they even given those documents?

我們知道，有數百名 Assistant DA 和 DOJ 的其他成員在看這些文件，並進行塗改，他們有拿到這些文件嗎？

And it goes back to the Florida prosecution, which can be considered very corrupt, where there was a non prosecution agreement given to Mr.

這又回到了佛羅裡達州的起訴，那可以說是相當腐敗的，當時佛羅裡達州的美國檢察官給了 Epstein 先生一份不起訴協議。

Epstein by the then United States Attorney in the subnit of Florida.

I'm assuming these alleged acts occurred in Florida.

我假設這些被指控的行為發生在佛羅裡達州。

But if this was part of a 2019 document or some kind of report that happened as recently as 2019, do we have any idea where this report went?

但如果這是 2019 年的文件或某種報告的一部分，而且是最近才發生的，我們知道這份報告去了哪裡嗎？

I will say that this particular where it comes to the Trump accuser who's at the center of our documenting these missing documents.

我想說的是，關於這位川普的指控者，她正是我們記錄這些遺失文件事件的核心人物。

她在 2019 年接受了 FBI 的訪談。

The alleged abuse by Epstein didn't occur in either Florida or New York.

Epstein 被指控的性侵行為並沒有發生在佛羅裡達州或紐約州。

但我們不知道這些文件去了哪裡。

And I want to say something about how we know the pages are missing and who might have seen them, because based on NPR's reporting, you know, many of these documents, and

我想說一下我們怎麼知道這些頁面遺失了，以及誰可能看過它們，因為根據 NPR 的報導，你知道，這些文件很多，而且

I think some of our viewers are familiar with this, they have a number at the very bottom that starts with EFTA for Epstein Files Transparency act and then has a number that number has a meaning.

我想我們有些觀眾對此很熟悉，它們最下面有一個編號，以 Epstein Files Transparency act 開頭，後面接著一個數字，這個數字是有意義的。

It's basically a consecutive numbering of pages of a production so that each page has its own unique identifier.

它基本上是生產文件的連續編號，所以每一頁都有它獨特的識別碼。

NPR basically looked then at the index, compared it to what was produced for this particular witness and her statements and has, by comparing those page numbers, has counted 50 plus pages that they believe are missing that correspond to these three interview memoranda.

NPR 基本上查看了索引，並將其與為這位特定證人及其證詞所提供的文件進行比對，透過比對這些頁碼，他們估計有 50 多頁遺失，這些頁面與這三份 interview memoranda 相符。

We have not independently done that ourselves, but

我們自己還沒有獨立驗證過，但是

I trust that if we were to go through that exercise, they're probably not far off the mark that there are 50 pages that you would expect to be produced in consecutive order that are missing.

我相信如果我們仔細檢查，他們估計遺失的 50 頁文件，應該就是生產順序上連續遺失的那幾頁。

From this, we can tell you that this particular victim witness had 15 documents that are supposedly reflective of her statements.

從這裡我們可以告訴你，這位特定的受害人證人有 15 份文件，據說能反映她的證詞。

We as well as NPR as well as another independent journalist have all looked for each of those 15 documents and all, all of us collectively have found only seven of those 15.

我們、NPR 以及另一位獨立記者，都找過這 15 份文件，而我們所有人加起來，只找到了其中的 7 份。

Again, all 15 of them are reflective of statements that she made either to federal law enforcement, to state police via email, but

同樣地，這 15 份文件都應該能反映她向聯邦執法人員、透過電子郵件向州警所做的陳述，但

they are all supposed to be reflective of her accounting of events in one way or another.

它們都應該能反映她對事件的說明。

And yet more than half of the documents that are supposedly attributable to this person are missing, including three memoranda prepared by the FBI reflecting interviews that they conducted with her in fall and winter of.

然而，據說屬於這位證人的文件，超過一半都遺失了，包括 FBI 準備的三份 interview memoranda，記錄了他們在 2019 年秋季和冬季對她的訪談。

I'm sorry, in the fall and summer of 2019.

抱歉，是 2019 年的秋季和夏季。

So what I think is also very important to underscore here is that not all of her interview files are missing.

所以，我認為在這裡要強調的另一點是，並非她所有的 interview files 都遺失了。

I say most because we know that this woman gave four interviews to the FBI, at least according to this index.

我說大部分，是因為我們知道，根據這份索引，這位女士接受了 FBI 四次訪談。

Only one of those interview memoranda has been shared with the public.

這四份 interview memoranda 中，只有一份已經公開。

That interviews doesn't contain any of her apparent allegations against Donald Trump, and

那次的訪談並沒有包含她對 Donald Trump 提出的任何指控，

但我們知道她確實提出了這些指控。

Because the FBI's own internal correspondence and a presentation that they put together in the summer of 2025 reflects that.

因為 FBI 自己的內部通信以及他們在 2025 年夏天準備的一份簡報中都有記載。

This woman is also the same person who accused Donald Trump of sexually assaulting her, where she said that, to whom she said that, we still don't know because three of her interview memoranda are missing from the public production of the files.

這位女士也是指控 Donald Trump 對她進行 sexual assault 的同一人，但她是在何時、向誰提出的，我們仍不知道，因為她的三份 interview memoranda 在公開的檔案中遺失了。

Let me go to Vaughn, because we are just hours away now from the President delivering his State of the Union address.

讓我來連線 Vaughn，因為總統發表國情諮文演說只剩幾個小時了。

Vaughn and several Epstein survivors and their families will be in that audience.

Vaughn 和幾位 Epstein 的倖存者及其家屬將會出席。

Will he acknowledge them or even the release of the files more generally?

他會承認他們，甚至更廣泛地承認這些檔案的發布嗎？

There is no reason to believe that he will.

And none of the preview that has come out of this White House of a State of the Union address has indicated any desire to address the Epstein survivors or the Epstein files.

而從白宮這次國情諮文演說的預告中，也看不出任何想提及 Epstein 倖存者或 Epstein files 的意願。

Number one, there has not been a single time in which President Trump has expressed sympathy or for regret on behalf of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

第一點，川普總統從未對 Jeffrey Epstein 和 Ghislaine Maxwell 的受害者表達過任何同情或遺憾。

Number two, Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is no longer in Congress, she will not be there tonight, largely in part to Donald Trump calling her a traitor because she was key to.

第二點，Marjorie Taylor Greene，她已不在國會，今晚也不會出席，這很大程度上是因為 Donald Trump 稱她是叛徒，因為她是關鍵人物。

To that discharge petition that led to the release of these very files.

促成了這次導致這些檔案發布的 discharge petition。

And Marjorie Taylor Greene has explicitly said that Donald Trump, the sitting president, tried to pressure her to not have these files released to the public, saying in part, according to Greene, that they would hurt some of his friends.

Marjorie Taylor Greene 明確表示，當時在任的總統 Donald Trump 曾試圖施壓她，不要將這些檔案公諸於世，Greene 說，川普當時表示，這些檔案會傷害他的一些朋友。

Number three, when it pertains to this new reporting here from Lisa, I think it's very important that we go back to just three weeks ago, when these initial files were released by the Department of Justice, that the doj, in an official press release, stated the some of the documents contain untrue and sensationalist claims against President Trump that were submitted to the FBI right before the 2020 election.

第三點，關於 Lisa 的這項新報導，我認為非常重要的一點是，我們回顧一下僅僅三週前，當司法部發布這些初步檔案時，DOJ 在一份官方新聞稿中表示，其中一些文件包含針對川普總統的不實和聳人聽聞的指控，這些指控在 2020 年大選前不久提交給了 FBI。

To be clear, the claims are unfounded and false.

說清楚點，這些指控是毫無根據且虛假的。

And if they have a shred of credibility, they certainly would have been weaponized against President Trump already.

如果它們有一絲可信度，早就被用來對付川普總統了。