Name: 「對他們來說，這不是政治，而是個人恩怨！」－凱特琳·柯林斯談艾普斯坦倖存者 ("It's Not Political For Them, It's Personal" - Kaitlan Collins On Epstein Survivors)
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Hey, everybody, it's CNN's Kaitlan Collins.

嗨，大家好，我是 CNN 的 Kaitlan Collins。

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Why do you think the American public is not as ready to turn the page on the Epstein files as the president suggests they should be?

你認為美國民眾不像總統說的那麼準備好翻過 Epstein files 這一頁，是為什麼呢？

過去簡單式

And the press secretary said last week during a briefing that the country, it's time to move on.

上週記者會發言人在簡報時說，國家是時候往前看了。

這不是我們從民眾那裡聽到的。

It's Republicans and Democrats alike who want answers.

共和黨員和民主黨員都想要答案。

And really what they want is accountability here.

Can I do a little follow up on that for just a second here?

我可以針對這點再追問一下嗎？

Is that isn't it weird that the Justice Department has all this information and yet they're saying that individual people out there can pour through it and they can point out things to the Justice Department if they would like, but

司法部掌握了這麼多資訊，卻說外面的個人可以自行查閱，並且向司法部指出他們想找的東西，這不是很奇怪嗎？

他們說，記者朋友，你們來做我們的工作。

And lawyers are going through this, obviously, and lawmakers can go and look at the documents themselves.

律師們當然在查閱這些文件，國會議員也可以親自去看這些文件。

But we had this surreal moment on my show last week where Thomas Massie, one of the Republicans from Kentucky who wrote this bill, it's a pretty short law that you can go and read that the president was obviously had his hand forced to sign.

但上週在我節目上出現了一個超現實時刻，肯塔基州的共和黨員 Thomas Massie，他寫了這項法案，這是一條很短的法律，大家可以去看看，總統顯然是被迫簽署的。

He found a name that was redacted, that he looked up where he could see where it was unredacted, and

他找到了一個被塗黑的名字，他查了一下，發現了未塗黑的部分，

he said it shouldn't be redacted on our show.

他說這些名字不應該在我們的節目上被塗黑。

About 20 minutes before he came on, he had tweeted it out, and

在他上節目大約 20 分鐘前，他已經在推特上發布了，

Todd Blanche, the deputy attorney general, then, quote, tweeted it and unredacted the name.

然後副總檢察長 Todd Blanche，他轉發了這則推文，並把名字的塗黑部分去掉了。

And Thomas Massie found out in real time on this show, and

Thomas Massie 在節目上即時發現了這件事，

he pointed it out to the attorney general last week, and she was saying, well, we corrected it.

他上週向總檢察長指出了這點，而她說，嗯，我們已經更正了。

But his point was, had he not pointed it out, would it have been unredacted?

但他的重點是，如果他沒有指出來，那名字會不會一直被塗黑？

And I think your point is great, that it's not just Republicans.

我認為你的觀點很棒，這不只是共和黨員的事。

This is not a political issue they've tried to make to say that anyone who was in that position of power or abused these women and underage girls, many of them at the time, that they should be brought to account and held to have justice for these women.

這不是一個他們試圖政治化的議題，說任何處於權力地位或虐待這些女性和未成年女孩的人，當時她們中的許多人，都應該被究責，讓這些女性獲得正義。

It seems like the lowest bar we can cross as a society is to hold people who traffic children to account, no matter what their political persuasion is.

我們社會能跨越的最低門檻，似乎就是追究那些拐賣兒童的人的責任，不管他們的政治立場是什麼。

And I think, you know, we've interviewed so many of these women, and

而且我認為，你知道，我們採訪過這麼多這些女性，

they're powerful and this has shaped their lives.

她們很堅強，這也形塑了她們的人生。

我是說，她們現在很多人都已經是成年人了。

But many of them were so incredibly young when this happened.

但她們中有許多人在這件事發生時，年紀都還非常非常小。

And there was one survivor who said, gave this quote, I believe, to the Miami Herald and said that Jeffrey Epstein went after women that he thought no one would care about and that no one would believe.

有一位倖存者說，我記得她引用了一段話，我認為是說給《邁阿密先驅報》聽的，她說傑佛瑞·愛潑斯坦專門找那些他認為沒人會在乎、也沒人會相信的女性下手。

And to see these women who for decades were ignored by the FBI or attorneys or prosecutors, finally feel that they have some semblance of that, I think is really powerful.

看到這些女性，幾十年來被FBI、檢察官或檢察官忽視，終於感覺到她們得到了一點點慰藉，我認為這真的很強大。

I mean, these women, all they want is accountability.

我的意思是，這些女性，她們只想要究責。

對她們來說，這不是政治議題。

The Source with Kaitlan Collins airs weeknights on cnn.

CNN 的 The Source with Kaitlan Collins 在每週的平日播出。

We'll be right back with New York Times best selling author Walter Isaacson.

我們馬上會請到《紐約時報》暢銷書作家 Walter Isaacson。

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