Name: 未滿16歲應該禁止使用社群媒體嗎？| BBC 臺灣問政 (Should we ban social media for under 16s? | BBC Question Time)
Uploaded: 2026-01-30T14:48:10.000Z
Duration: 9 min 47 s

This has been an experiment designed by addiction specialists that has been unleashed on vulnerable people.

這是一個由成癮專家設計，並被釋放到脆弱人群身上的實驗。

Does the panel think banning social media for under six scenes is a good idea and will work?

panel 認為禁止未滿六歲的兒童使用社群媒體是個好主意，而且會有效嗎？

Right, so Australia's already banned it, France is looking close to banning it, and

沒錯，澳洲已經禁止了，法國也快要禁止了，

the government is consulting on possibly banning it, amongst a number of other things.

政府也正在考慮是否要禁止，以及其他一些事情。

So I think this is a really interesting question.

所以我覺得這是一個非常有趣的問題。

I think that we can easily fall into a trap of debating should we just ban children from social media, but

我認為我們很容易陷入辯論「我們是不是應該禁止兒童使用社群媒體」的陷阱，但是

that doesn't cover conversations around actually, how do we make sure that we remove pornographic and particularly extreme pornographic content from social media?

這並沒有涵蓋「實際上，我們要如何確保移除社群媒體上的色情，特別是極端色情內容？」的討論。

How do we deal with racism, homophobia and other forms of hate speech?

我們要如何處理種族歧視、恐同症和其他形式的仇恨言論？

Right, but given that the question is, should we ban social media for under 16?

沒錯，但問題是，我們是不是應該禁止 16 歲以下的兒童使用社群媒體？

No, but I think you think we should or we shouldn't.

不是，但我覺得你認為我們應該或不應該。

No, I think the point I'm trying to make is I think the question is much broader than that.

不是，我覺得我想表達的重點是，我認為這個問題比這要廣泛得多。

There is an issue, you know, if you set up a TikTok account in the profile of a teenage boy, it takes 30 minutes before extreme misogynistic content is promoted to that, that user.

問題是，你知道，如果你為一個青少年男孩註冊一個 TikTok 帳號，在 30 分鐘內就會向該用戶推薦極端厭女內容。

So what I'm saying is I don't think simply banning social media for a particular age group is the issue.

所以我想說的是，我不認為單純禁止特定年齡層使用社群媒體是問題所在。

It is why do we have platforms that have become so unregul, that are controlled by algorithms that are determined to promote damaging content.

問題在於，為什麼我們會有這些平臺變得如此不受規範，由演算法控制，而這些演算法又致力於推廣破壞性內容。

And essentially we've handed over the regulation, or lack of any regulation around what is appropriate to kind of billionaire oligarchs who buy social media platforms.

基本上，我們把圍繞適當內容的規範，或者說缺乏任何規範，交給了那些購買社群媒體平臺的億萬富翁寡頭。

That's the issue and they are driving agendas.

這才是問題所在，他們在推動議程。

And I don't think it's as simple as just saying we ban it for a group.

我認為事情不像說我們禁止某個群體使用那麼簡單。

But there's a much bigger conversation around who is driving opinion, who is driving content and, and

但還有一個更大的對話，關於誰在推動意見，誰在推動內容，以及

why we have allowed these online spaces to become unregulated.

為什麼我們允許這些線上空間變得不受規範。

And bear in mind, people are making money from this, right?

而且請記住，人們正從中賺錢，對吧？

People upload this incredibly divisive and incredibly extreme content to monetize it.

人們上傳這些極具分裂性和極端性的內容來營利。

We saw Elon Musk severely playing politics in America, generating lots of money, driving opinion in certain ways.

我們看到 Elon Musk 在美國嚴重地玩弄政治，賺了很多錢，以特定方式推動輿論。

I think it's a much bigger question than just do we ban under 16 year olds?

我認為這是一個比我們是否禁止 16 歲以下人士使用更宏大的問題。

So, Douglas, presumably this is something the government is considering because although you've got the Online Safety Act, I know you had some, some success with GROK in terms of its new defined pictures and getting a row back on that, but

所以，Douglas，政府大概正在考慮這件事，因為雖然你們有線上安全法案，我知道你們在 GROK 上取得了一些成功，就其新定義的圖片以及是以引發的爭議而言，但

I assume the government is looking at it because there's just so much of this stuff that Joe's talking about that Actually, the only way to sort out, sort it out may be simply just about it.

我猜政府正在關注這件事，因為 Joe 提到的這些內容實在太多了，實際上，唯一解決、處理它的方法可能就是單純地處理它。

So honestly, my sense is this conversation is happening pretty much everywhere in the country.

所以老實說，我感覺這個對話幾乎在全國各地都在發生。

It's happening around the kitchen table and in families living rooms across the country.

這在全國各地的餐桌和家庭客廳裡都在發生。

We had a conversation about it at the Cabinet on Tuesday morning without breaching Cabinet confidentiality.

我們週二早上在內閣開會討論了這件事，而且沒有違反內閣保密。

One of my colleagues said, if the content that arrives on a kid's phone was posted through the post and you could open up and look at it, would any of us as parents want our kids to see that?

I think in addition to that very basic point, one of our real challenges is how do you parent effectively?

We wouldn't leave our kids to wander about a strange city, to meet an unknown stranger.

And yet that's exactly what can happen with social media through their phones, when they're sitting in their bedrooms.

So I think we have a responsibility to look at this formally.

We're having a consultation that will run for three months.

我的一位同事說，如果孩子手機上收到的內容是透過郵寄方式寄達，而且你可以打開來看，我們任何一位家長會希望孩子看到嗎？

The Prime Minister has already spoken to Prime Minister Albanese where there's been a ban in Australia.

我認為除了這個非常基本的點之外，我們面臨的一大挑戰是如何有效地育兒？

But I would also pick up the point in terms of the algorithms, the truth is, you know, it's an unfair fight between the human brain and these algorithms.

我們不會讓孩子們在陌生的城市裡遊蕩，去見陌生人。

They are literally designed to be addictive.

然而，當孩子們坐在臥室裡，透過手機使用社群媒體時，情況就可能變成這樣。

And if you look at what they are promoting just now, there's a lot of talk about the attention economy.

所以我認為我們有責任正式地來處理這件事。

They grab our attention with the development of AI.

We're moving from the attention economy to the connection economy.

我們正從注意力經濟轉向連結經濟。

You look at how many people are already using ChatGPT and other forms of AI for counseling for some of their deepest and more personal questions.

你看看有多少人已經在使用 ChatGPT 和其他形式的 AI 來諮詢他們最深層、最個人化的問題。

I think we have a deep responsibility to act because if you look at the coincidence of the use of smartphones, the rise of algorithms and the explosion of mental health problems amongst our young people, I think there's a real time experiment that is going pretty badly wrong right now.

我認為我們有重大的責任採取行動，因為如果你看看智慧型手機的使用、演算法的興起以及我們年輕人心理健康問題的爆炸性增長，這三者之間的巧合，我認為現在有一個真實的時間實驗正在嚴重地出錯。

And governments, not just here in the uk, but

而各國政府，不只是在這裡的英國，

right around the world, are trying to figure out how we can act and get this right.

在世界各地，都在努力想辦法如何採取行動並把這件事做好。

So my sense is, the question is, how do we get this right?

所以我的感覺是，問題在於，我們該如何把這件事做好？

How do we make sure that those companies are regulated effectively and how do we give our children their childhoods back?

我們要如何確保這些公司受到有效監管，以及我們如何還給孩子們他們的童年？

And I think that's something that you would expect us to be looking at.

我認為這是你們會期望我們去關注的事情。

So in reference, you've discussed banning social media for under 16s and you've touched on artificial intelligence and we've seen in this month of January with X, AI and grok, and

所以，您提到了禁止未滿 16 歲者使用社群媒體，也談到了人工智慧，我們在今年一月看到了 X、AI 和 GROK，

it's disgusting, frankly, Undressing of women and the damage it's done in that regard.

坦白說，這很噁心，對女性的剝削以及在這方面造成的傷害。

Do you think that there needs to be greater safeguards in relation to artificial intelligence?

您認為在人工智慧方面需要有更嚴格的安全措施嗎？

And in fact, do you think this plan should be extended to under sixteens in regards to artificial intelligence?

事實上，您認為這項計畫應該擴展到未滿 16 歲者使用人工智慧嗎？

Well, not allowing under 16s to access AI Constantine on both things.

嗯，不讓未滿 16 歲者接觸 AI，這兩件事都是。

Actually, surprisingly, a lot of sense has been spoken on this so far.

其實，令人驚訝的是，到目前為止大家說了很多有道理的話。

My wife has become, in relation to our son, complete screen Nazi.

我太太對我們的兒子，已經變成一個徹底的螢幕納粹了。

He hasn't seen a tablet or a phone, and I don't think will for some time.

他沒看過平板或手機，我認為短期內也不會。

My son is about to be four, but I don't think he'll be seeing those things for ages.

我兒子快四歲了，但我認為他還要很久才會接觸這些東西。

I'd be in favor of banning phones from schools.

I think there's plenty of evidence now, as Douglas says, that this has been an experiment designed by addiction specialists that has been unleashed on vulnerable people, which is what all children are in that respect.

我覺得現在有很多證據，就像 Douglas 說的，這是一場由成癮專家設計，並釋放到脆弱人群身上的實驗，而孩子們在這方面就是脆弱的。

And I think the evidence is very clear that when you.

If you are a parent that takes a phone away from a child, they react as an addict would to having the drug withdrawn.

如果你是個拿走孩子手機的家長，他們會像癮君子被戒毒一樣做出反應。

That is the level of addiction it's causing.

所以我認為這是一個非常嚴重的問題。

And by the way, I agree about, you know, there's obviously terrible content that gets shown to people on all kinds of platforms and that's an issue.

順帶一提，我同意，你知道的，很明顯各種平臺上都會出現可怕的內容，這也是一個問題。

But that isn't the only damage that's being done.

Even when they're engaging with relatively innocuous content, the addictiveness of it, even when you're looking at normal things for 10 hours a day because you can't stop it, that's not a good thing.

即使他們在看相對無害的內容，但它的成癮性，即使你一天看正常東西看十小時，因為你停不下來，這也不是好事。

So, absolutely, I would ban phones in schools and I had actually start there because of the impact that's having.

所以，絕對的，我會禁止手機進入學校，我其實應該從那裡開始，因為它造成的影響。

And then social media, the issue with this is how do you implement it?

然後是社群媒體，問題在於你該怎麼實施？

Because then it means you have to get every single person to verify their identity.

因為這樣就代表你必須讓每個人都驗證他們的身份。

And there's privacy issues to do with that.

And of course, globally, there are people who would have to verify their identity.

當然，在全球各地，也有人需要驗證他們的身份。

If you're a freedom activist in Iran, you've got to submit your passport to Facebook or X.

如果你是伊朗的自由運動者，你必須把你的護照交給 Facebook 或 X。

And now you get hacked and now you get exposed.

然後你被駭客入侵，然後你被曝光。

There's a lot to do with the implementation of this, but the broad thrust of it.

這有很多關於實施的問題，但它的主要方向是這樣。

Banned from schools and social media is not good for kids.

被禁止進入學校和社群媒體對孩子們不好。

We know that now and we've got to be sensible about.

我們現在知道這件事，我們必須明智地處理。

Because you're taking it much broader, aren't you?

因為你把它看得更廣泛了，不是嗎？

Look, children should be getting supervised Internet access.

聽著，孩子們應該要有受監督的上網時間。

And I think the one thing I would say as well is we've discussed the failures of government all night tonight and I don't think that's likely to change in the next couple of years.

我覺得我們今晚討論了政府的各種失敗，而且我認為未來幾年不太可能改變。

So as parents, I think what we should actually be doing is taking way more responsibility and saying I, as a parent I'm going to design the way that my children interact with the Internet in a way that is going to be good for them because they will need to.

所以身為父母，我認為我們應該要負起更多責任，並且說「我身為父母，我會設計我的孩子們與網路互動的方式，讓他們能從中受益」，因為他們需要這樣做。

I mean AI is a powerful tool and they need to learn how to, how to use it.

我是說 AI 是個很強大的工具，他們需要學會怎麼使用它。

Not least because when we're older they'll be able to show us what to do on the Internet.

尤其是因為等我們老了，他們就能教我們怎麼上網了。

So we need to have our children be able to use the technology.

所以我們需要讓我們的孩子能夠使用這項科技。

But I think there's such a thing as age appropriateness and Internet access has to be supervised for children under a certain age.

但我覺得有「年齡適當性」這件事，而且網路使用在特定年齡以下的兒童必須受到監督。

And this is where the Conservative Party is at now.

Yeah, I mean the question was, should social media be banned for under 16s?

是啊，我是說問題是，16歲以下的青少年應該禁止使用社群媒體嗎？

我們的立場是肯定的，應該要禁止。