Name: 泰瑞葛洛斯：「沒有公共廣播公司，《新鮮空氣》就不可能誕生！」 (Terry Gross: "Fresh Air" Wouldn't Have Happened Without The Corporation For Public Broadcasting)
Uploaded: 2026-01-09T17:18:34.000Z
Duration: 4 min 2 s

Ladies and gentlemen, my next guest has been the award winning host of npr's fresh air for 50 years.

各位觀眾，我的下一位來賓是 NPR Fresh Air 節目長達 50 年的得獎主持人。

Please welcome back to the late show, terry gross.

請歡迎回到深夜秀，Terry Gross。

And I listen to your show all the time, too.

You were 24 years old when you started hosting Fresh Air 50 years ago.

妳 50 年前開始主持 Fresh Air 時才 24 歲。

And do you recommend doing a show for 50 years?

Well, the good thing about it is longevity.

How many interviews have you done in the last 50 years?

這 50 年來妳大概做了多少次訪談？

I'm told, I think that it's somewhere between like 15,000 or 18,000.

我聽說，我想大概在 15,000 到 18,000 次之間。

Well, what have you learned about people after 15 long conversations like that?

嗯，經過這麼長久 15,000 次以上的談話，妳學到了關於人什麼呢？

A fair amount of artists and writers who I've interviewed were sick a lot during childhood and kind of cooped up at home.

我訪談過很多藝術家和作家，他們小時候常常生病，就只能待在家裡。

Were you, were you cooped up at home as a child?

No, I felt cooped up, but I wasn't literally cooped up.

沒有，我覺得自己被關在家裡，但實際上並沒有。

But I found that a lot of, you know, artists and writers, they're forced to stay home and they kind of busy themselves writing or watching a lot of TV and realizing, oh, I'd love to act.

不過我發現很多，你知道的，藝術家和作家，他們被迫待在家裡，然後就自己找事做，像是寫作或是看很多電視，然後就發現，喔，我好想演戲。

And it's nice to know that because the worst things in your life can have a payoff sometimes if you're really lucky.

很高興知道，因為人生中最糟糕的事情，有時候如果你真的很幸運，也會有好的回報。

Although I don't believe every problem is really a gift.

雖然我不相信每個問題真的是一份禮物。

Yeah, this cancer is making me a better person.

對，這個癌症讓我變成一個更好的人。

In July, Republicans in Congress cut $1.1 billion in funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

七月的時候，共和黨國會議員從公共廣播公司（Corporation for Public Broadcasting）砍了 11 億美元的經費。

On Monday, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting voted to dissolve.

星期一，公共廣播公司（Corporation for Public Broadcasting）投票決定解散。

And as someone who's worked in public radio for their whole career, what role did the CPB play in.

對於一個在公共廣播（public radio）工作了一輩子的人來說，CPB 在其中扮演了什麼角色？

When I started at the college station, there was an NPR affiliate.

我剛開始在大學電臺時，有一個 NPR 的衛星臺。

At that time, you had to have, I think, like five full paid staff members in order to qualify for funding because there are only five full time paid staff members.

當時，我記得好像要有五名全職支薪的員工才能符合申請補助的資格，因為那時候只有五名全職支薪的員工。

And that's how I was able to get started as a volunteer.

And on the other end, when our show went from a local show to a national one, financially, it could not possibly have happened without a major grant from the CPB to do all the things that we needed to do.

而且另一方面，當我們的節目從地方節目變成全國節目時，在財務上，如果沒有 CPB 的主要補助來做我們需要做的所有事情，這是不可能發生的。

And I think it was worth their investment.

而且我認為他們的投資是值得的。

我的意思是，他們的節目一直延續至今。

所以，是的，這是不可能發生的。

It wouldn't have happened without the cpb.

沒有 CPB 的話，這是不可能發生的。

We'll be right back with more Terry Gross, everybody.

馬上回來，繼續聽 Terry Gross 的節目。

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