Name: 澤倫斯基將前往佛州與川普會面！｜DW 新聞 (Zelenskyy to travel to Florida for Trump meeting | DW News)
Uploaded: 2025-12-27T17:07:29.000Z
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he'll meet with US President Donald Trump in Florida on Sunday as diplomatic efforts to end the Russia Ukraine war intensify.

烏克蘭總統弗拉基米爾·澤倫斯基表示，他將於週日在佛羅裡達州與美國總統唐納·川普會面，以加強結束俄烏戰爭的外交努力。

The US media outlet Axios reports that Zelensky is ready to hold a referendum on a potential peace plan that would allow Ukrainians to approve concessions now prohibited by law, such as conceding territory.

美國媒體 Axios 報導，澤倫斯基準備就一項潛在的和平計畫舉行公投，該計畫將允許烏克蘭人準許目前法律禁止的讓步，例如割讓領土。

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Russia has occupied nearly all of the eastern Luhansk region and most of the neighboring Donetsk region.

俄羅斯已佔領了東部盧甘斯克地區的幾乎全部地區以及鄰近頓內茨克地區的大部分地區。

Moscow is insisting that Ukrainian troops withdraw from the portion they still hold.

莫斯科堅持要求烏克蘭軍隊撤出他們仍控制的部分。

DW's Anna Pishemiska traveled there to speak to residents living under constant attack.

DW 的 Anna Pishemiska 前往當地採訪了生活在持續攻擊下的居民。

We're heading towards Kramatorsk and Sloviansk, the largest cities in unoccupied Donetsk.

我們正前往頓內茨克未被佔領地區最大的城市克拉馬託爾斯克和斯洛維揚斯克。

These anti drone nets are a sign of the threat hovering nearby.

這些反無人機網是附近威脅的標誌。

These cities are now called fortresses and are part of Ukraine's defensive lines.

這些城市現在被稱為堡壘，是烏克蘭防線的一部分。

The front line is only 20km away, but life goes on all the same.

前線只有 20 公里遠，但生活照舊。

Even as first Person View or FPV drones fly overhead.

即使是第一人稱視角或 FPV 無人機從頭頂飛過。

It's no longer safe for trains to run, but cafes and shops still do.

火車已經不再安全，但咖啡館和商店還在營業。

Locals say this isn't about resilience or heroism.

當地人說，這不是關於堅韌或英雄主義。

It's simply everyday life in a frontline city.

這只是前線城市裡的日常生活。

This space is one of the symbols of normalcy for Kramatorsk.

這個空間是克拉馬託爾斯克正常生活的象徵之一。

Through its clothing line, the Zoboi team wants to show that Donetsk is Ukraine.

透過他們的服裝線，Zoboi 團隊想展現頓內茨克是烏克蘭的。

We are spreading the idea that Donetsk will be free.

我們正在傳播頓內茨克將會自由的理念。

Despite the fact that every day meters and kilometers of our oblast are being occupied, we still believe that in the future these territories will be returned.

儘管每天我們的州都有數米甚至數公里的土地被佔領，我們仍然相信未來這些地區會被收復。

Maxim is from Pokrovsk, currently a hotly contested city in Donetsk.

Maxim 來自 Pokrovsk，這個城市目前在頓內茨克地區激烈爭奪中。

In the summer, he and his team moved to Kramatorsk from Dnipro.

夏天時，他和他的團隊從 Dnipro 搬到了克拉馬託爾斯克。

For them, returning to the Donetsk region is like coming home.

對他們來說，回到頓內茨克地區就像回到了家。

It was symbolic for us, the soldiers who serve here.

對我們這些在這裡服役的阿兵哥來說，這很有象徵意義。

We told them it also supports them in the sense that it inspires hope that everything will be really okay.

我們告訴他們，這也支持了他們，因為它激勵了希望一切都會真的好起來。

But some others are choosing to leave, though.

Trains to Kramatorsk and Sloviansk stopped running in November.

前往克拉馬託爾斯克和斯洛維揚斯克的火車在11月停運了。

Free buses run by the humanitarian Mission Prolieska ferry people to the nearest station in Kharkiv.

由人道救援組織 Mission Prolieska 營運的免費巴士，會將人們載到哈爾科夫最近的車站。

I'm 70 years old, but I still want to live.

I danced on my 70th birthday, but now my legs hurt and it's all because of nerves.

我70歲生日時還跳舞，但現在我的腿很痛，這都是因為緊張。

I don't know how, but we need to end all this.

我不知道該怎麼做，但我們必須結束這一切。

Back in Trmatorsk, many residents balk at the thought of a Russian takeover.

在克拉馬託爾斯克，許多居民都不願被俄羅斯接管。

Of course, I would not want us to be handed over to anyone.

Let's hope that our military will defend us.

It's a bad idea to give up the most fortified area we have in Ukraine, which has been fortified for 10 years, just like that, without a fight.

把我們在烏克蘭最堅固、已經設防十年的地方就這樣拱手讓人，不戰而降，這絕對是個壞主意。

Putin won't sign anything and all this is in vain.

普丁不會簽署任何協議，這一切都是徒勞無功。

We need sanctions and weapons to survive.

我們需要制裁和武器才能生存。

Much of the economy of these cities is now supported by the military presence here.

這些城市大部分的經濟現在都仰賴這裡的軍隊。

If Ukraine refuses Moscow's demands, experts say it could take years for Russia to occupy all of Donetsk.

如果烏克蘭拒絕莫斯科的要求，專家表示俄羅斯可能需要數年時間才能佔領頓內茨克地區。

But after 10 years of war, Ukrainians here have become accustomed to to not making long term plans for the future.

但經過十年的戰爭，這裡的烏克蘭人已經習慣了不去為未來做長遠的打算。

Anna Matveyeva is a senior visiting research fellow at the Russia Institute at King's College London, specializing in conflict and peace studies.

Anna Matveyeva 是倫敦國王學院俄羅斯研究所的高級訪問研究員，專攻衝突與和平研究。

I asked her what she makes of the 20 point peace proposal.

我問她對這個二十點和平計畫有什麼看法。

I think it's very much like some kind of general sketch of a proposal rather than something which they would imagine Russia would agree to because in order to create demilitarized zone, it is a huge undertaking because you don't know where exactly what will happen now.

我認為這比較像是一個概略的提案草稿，而不是他們認為俄羅斯會同意的內容，因為要建立非軍事區是一項巨大的工程，你不知道確切會發生什麼事。

Fighting is all over the place, as your report just said.

正如你的報導剛才提到的，戰鬥無處不在。

Russia certainly is not going to agree to a temporary ceasefire and separation of forces which normally accompany this kind of agreements within the un.

俄羅斯當然不會同意聯合國通常會伴隨這類協議的臨時停火和軍隊分離。

There has been a call, I think earlier today between the Russian presidential aide Yuri Ushakov and the American side and they discussed what were the signals given to the Russian negotiation team just before the Christmas in Miami and Florida.

我想今天稍早俄羅斯總統助理尤里·烏沙科夫和美方進行了通話，他們討論了在聖誕節前夕傳達給俄羅斯談判團隊的訊號，當時他們人在邁阿密和佛羅裡達。

And they might be quite different because the plan which has been put forward by Zelensky, which he has published, doesn't really say that it is the actual trapped plant proposal.

而且這些訊號可能很不一樣，因為澤倫斯基提出的、他已經發表的計畫，並沒有真正說明這是最終的計畫提案。

So we are seeing one of the twists and turns in this saga.

所以我們正看到這場戲碼中的一個轉折。

But I have to say why Kramatorsk and Sloviansk are so very important for Russia, because in their thinking that was the cradle of the original Russian spring in spring 2014, the Donbass Rebellion.

但我必須說，為什麼克拉馬託爾斯克和斯洛維揚斯克對俄羅斯如此重要，因為在他們的想法裡，那裡是 2014 年春天最初的俄羅斯之春、頓巴斯叛亂的搖籃。

People did not like the change of government in Kiev, opposed Euromaidan, felt threatened and that created that kind of movement which later spread and turned into full fledged war.

人們不喜歡基輔的政府變動，反對歐洲廣場革命，感到受到威脅，這催生了那種後來蔓延並演變成全面戰爭的運動。

So that's kind of a foundational myth, if you like, of that current war.

所以，如果你願意這麼說，這就是當前戰爭的一種基礎神話。

Also there was a referendum which was organized on these territories.

People did vote in certainly it was not recognized by the government in Kyiv or international community, but

人們確實投票了，雖然基輔政府或國際社會不承認，但

And so from Moscow's point of view, they think that they actually have constituency there, that there will be enough people who would support Russian cause.

所以從莫斯科的角度來看，他們認為自己在當地有支持者，有足夠的人會支持俄羅斯的事業。

That was Anna Matveyeva from the Russia Institute at King's College, London.

這是倫敦國王學院俄羅斯研究所的 Anna Matveyeva。