Name: 雷恩庫格勒談如何讓《Sinners》中的吸血鬼重返性感魅力，以及克里斯多福諾蘭的電影製作建議！ (Ryan Coogler on Making Vampires Sexy Again in ‘Sinners’ and Filmmaking Advice from Christopher Nolan)
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Ryan, welcome to the awards tour podcast.

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I'm so glad I get to talk to you because this is the first time I get to talk to you since the Kodak video.

我真的很高興能跟你聊聊，因為自從那個柯達影片之後，這是我第一次跟你說話。

And I really just want to thank you for making it because it made video aperture and like millimeters accessible to people in a way that I'd never seen.

我真的非常感謝你製作了那個影片，因為它讓影片光圈和毫米這些東西變得非常容易理解，是我從未見過的。

As someone who's always felt intimidated by that, I'm wondering if you've had that feedback about how like cool it was to see somebody like you just break that down like that.

身為一個一直對這些東西感到卻步的人，我想問你，你有沒有收到關於大家覺得看到像你這樣的人把這些東西講得很清楚很酷的回饋？

People have shared with me what that video has meant to them.

人們跟我分享了那個影片對他們的意義。

So I feel like really I was surprised, you know, like, yeah, absolutely.

所以我覺得自己真的很驚訝，你知道嗎，就是，絕對是。

Like, I feel fortunate that people took to it and extra fortunate that people have shared with me that they really liked it.

我覺得很幸運，大家喜歡那個影片，更幸運的是，大家跟我分享說他們真的很喜歡。

What was your favorite feedback from somebody?

讓你印象最深刻的回饋是什麼？

Cause I'm sure people in the industry even talk to you about it.

因為我確定產業裡的人也會跟你聊到。

Yeah, he called me and we had met before, but

對，他打電話給我，我們之前見過面，但是

he called me and was real excited just cause we from California, you know what I mean?

他打電話給我，非常興奮，因為我們都來自加州，你懂我的意思嗎？

I don't hear it, like I don't notice it, but other people do.

我自己聽不太出來，但別人會注意到。

And he's from la, so he talked similar to us a little bit from the Bay Area.

他來自洛杉磯，所以他講話的方式跟我們有點像，來自灣區的我們。

And he was just saying he was excited to just hear me talk for that long.

他只是說，他很開心能聽我講那麼久。

You know, honestly, as someone that is like, it's a little tricky sometimes to get you like pinned down.

說真的，有時候有點難把你給「抓」到。

I was like, honestly, I was happy about it.

我那時候，說真的，我很高興。

Cause I remember like doing Black Panther the first thing.

因為我記得拍《黑豹》第一集的時候。

你是唯一一個我們沒跟你聊到的人。

You were like, ah, I'm busy, I'm trying to make.

你就說，啊，我很忙，我得趕快弄。

But no, like he just kind of like what Tyler was saying was he was excited that younger, like some kid was going to watch it from where we from maybe and decide they wanted to make movies off seeing that.

但沒有，就像泰勒說的，他很興奮，有年輕人，就像我們那裡的小孩，看了之後決定想拍電影。

Because he talked about how like, you know, seeing Pharrell and RZA when he was young, seeing them inspired him to do his thing.

因為他談到，你知道，他年輕時看到 Pharrell 和 RZA，看到他們啟發了他去做他自己的事。

所以他當時，你知道，這很棒。

It was nice to hear from him and hear him that fired up.

聽到他的消息，聽到他那麼有幹勁，真是太好了。

And then the other one is my post production supervisor, Tina Anderson.

然後另一個是我的後期製作主管 Tina Anderson。

She does so much work behind the scenes on so many movies.

她在幕後為這麼多電影付出了很多努力。

So she works with Nolan, works with Quentin.

所以她跟諾蘭、昆汀都有合作。

And she works so hard and she's so connected with our family in Minnesota, where she from.

她工作非常努力，而且跟她來自的明尼蘇達的家人們關係都很好。

And she shared with me that this video helped her friends kind of understand what it is she does.

她跟我分享說，這支影片讓她的朋友們比較能理解她到底在做什麼。

She was sitting in the background giving you notes.

Kind of making sure I wasn't saying the wrong things.

Another thing that's so great about Sinners, it's the love letter to giving people's flowers while you still can.

《Sinners》另一件很棒的事，就是它像一封情書，鼓勵大家在還來得及的時候就給予讚美。

And I know that one of the impetus of the film was that you didn't.

我知道這部電影的動機之一，是因為你沒有。

And then you've talked a lot about, like, other filmmakers and other collaborators.

然後你聊了很多，像是其他電影製作人和合作夥伴。

And what you said about John Singleton, I thought was just so powerful.

我覺得你說的關於 John Singleton 的話，真的非常有力。

Cause, like, I see like, Damson and I see so many people from his Orbit.

因為，你看，我看到 Damson 和他周圍的許多人。

So is there somebody who currently, because of what you put out here, now you're saying, I'm gonna make sure that I work with him.

所以有沒有人，因為你現在在這裡的表現，讓你覺得，我一定要跟他合作。

And please say it's Denzel, because I thought that was kind of pretty fire, honestly.

而且拜託說是丹佐，因為我覺得那真的非常精彩，說實話。

You're like, I'm not gonna wait to do something with this person.

你會覺得，我不能等到以後才跟他合作。

I'm gonna make sure I give him his Angela Bassett moment.

我一定要確保給他一個安琪拉·貝瑟的時刻。

我當然希望跟丹佐華盛頓合作。

He's at the top of everybody's list, though.

But yeah, it's a lot of, like, a lot of actresses I love, like, you know, that I would let her work with one day.

但對，有很多，很多我喜歡的女演員，像是，你知道的，我希望有一天她能跟她合作。

因為我們都在跑巡演，就像大家說的。

We made a movie for the same studio, so it's always a pleasure to see her.

我們為同一家電影公司拍了電影，所以看到她總是很高興。

And she's another one where she's like, man, it'd be so cool to work with her.

她也是那種你會想說，哇，能跟她合作一定很酷。

The other thing I was gonna say, you're in the popular culture, man.

我本來還要說的另一件事是，你身處流行文化之中，老兄。

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