Name: 華倫參議員談論保護遭川普攻擊的國會議員：「我們必須挺身而出！」 ("We've Gotta Have Their Backs" - Sen. Warren On Protecting Congresspeople Targeted By Trump)
Uploaded: 2025-11-21T16:54:44.000Z
Duration: 5 min 15 s

Everybody, we're back with Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren.

各位，我們又請到麻薩諸塞州參議員伊麗莎白·沃倫了。

I want to ask you about another rule being broken right now.

我想問妳關於另一條現在正在被打破的規則。

Yesterday, some of your colleagues in the House and the Senate put out a video.

昨天，妳在眾議院和參議院的一些同事發布了一支影片。

And they said to serving members of both the armed forces and the intelligence community, hey, we've been where you are.

他們對軍隊和情報界現役軍人說，嘿，我們懂你們的處境。

We took the constitutional oath that you did.

我們也宣誓過跟你們一樣的憲法誓言。

And we're just reminding you you have an obligation not to obey an illegal order.

我們只是提醒你們，你們有義務不要服從非法命令。

For your own protection, do not follow an illegal order.

為了你們自身安全，請勿服從非法命令。

It is something that has taught members of the military that it is their responsibility to do.

這是教導軍人這是他們責任的事情。

People have freaked out in Trump's orbit.

川普的勢力範圍裡的人們都嚇壞了。

Trump has put out text or put out posts that said, this is seditious.

川普發布了文字或貼文，說這是煽動叛亂的。

He's retweeted people saying they should be arrested and hanged.

他轉發了說應該逮捕並絞死那些人的言論。

That's what George Washington would have done.

What do you say your friend Chris Murphy said, hey, he's threatening to kill members of Congress.

你說你的朋友克里斯·墨菲說了什麼，嘿，他威脅要殺害國會議員。

Now would be the time for somebody to take a side, is what he said.

他說現在是有人該表態的時候了。

So, look, first of all, Trump is wrong, as you rightly say.

所以，你看，首先，就像你說的，川普是錯的。

The members of Congress who are standing up.

And by the way, can we just say, good on them for standing up and pointing us out.

對了，我們能不能說，他們站出來指認出來，做得好。

Donald Trump thinks he can intimidate him, and

唐納·川普覺得他可以恐嚇他們，而且

I gotta say, I think he picked the wrong set of people to try to intimidate.

我必須說，我覺得他選錯了要恐嚇的對象。

But it is powerfully important that we push back.

This is a time to call on these Republicans who have been surgically altered and have no spines, to say that when Donald Trump is encouraging violence like this, when he's threatening violence like this, when he's calling out specific members of Congress with death threats, it is time for everyone in Congress to stand up and say, no, that is enough.

這是時候呼籲那些被動手術改造、沒有脊椎的共和黨人，要說，當唐納·川普像這樣鼓吹暴力，像這樣威脅暴力，像這樣點名國會議員並發出死亡威脅時，是時候讓國會裡的每個人站出來說，不行，夠了。

We are not doing this and not going to put up with it anymore.

我們不做這種事，也不再忍受了。

Now, it's hard to believe it, but until just last week, there was a government shutdown.

說出來你可能不相信，但就在上週，政府還處於關門狀態。

Just the longest in the nation's history.

It ended when eight of your Senate colleagues voted with the GOP to reopen the government.

當時你們參議院有八位同事和共和黨一起投票，讓政府重新開放，才結束了這場僵局。

When did you learn that this was happening?

你是什麼時候知道這件事正在發生的？

所以你看，你看到情況一點一滴地發生。

We actually had a really good proposal that we put together and offered to the Republicans and said, look, you guys are about to preside over tens of millions of Americans who are going to lose their health care and tens of millions more who are going to see their health insurance premiums double, in some cases triple, in some cases quadruple.

我們其實有個很棒的提案，我們把它整理好後提供給共和黨人，然後說，聽著，你們即將主持數千萬美國人失去健保，還有數千萬人會看到他們的健保費翻倍，有些情況下是三倍，有些情況下是四倍。

So here's what we want to offer you guys.

所以我們想提供給你們的是這個。

We open the government back up, give us at least a one year extension to try to fix this.

我們讓政府重新開放，給我們至少一年的延期來試著解決這個問題。

Our health care system is broken, Steven.

I'm not here to defend our health care system, but

我不是來為我們的健保系統辯護，但

what I am willing to defend it against is the Republicans coming in and saying they will take a broken system and just smash it so that millions of people who are counting on that system to get their health care lose it.

我願意辯護的是，共和黨進來聲稱要把一個壞掉的系統徹底砸爛，讓數百萬依賴這個系統獲得健保的人失去它。

You know, I was in Donald Trump's effectively his backyard down in Florida two weeks ago.

兩週前，我去了唐納·川普的「後院」，就在佛羅裡達。

I met a woman, she's married, she's got four kids, she's got a job, her husband has a job.

我遇到一位女士，她已婚，有四個小孩，她有工作，她先生也有工作。

And they've looked at their insurance and said the new price, we just literally can't afford it.

他們看了他們的保險，發現新的保費，我們真的負擔不起。

We can't make mortgage and take care of our kids.

我們付不起房貸，也無法照顧小孩。

So she's already planning how they're going to just drop having insurance.

所以她已經在計畫，他們要如何放棄保險。

So what she's doing is also planning to drop all of the treatments after January 1st.

所以她也在計畫，一月一日之後要放棄所有的治療。

The United States of America is the richest country in the history of the world.

美利堅合眾國是世界史上最富有的國家。

It is time for us to make good on the statement that health care is a basic human right.

是時候兌現我們的承諾，讓醫療保健成為基本人權了。

Right back with more Senator Elizabeth Warren, everybody.

馬上回來，繼續聽麻薩諸塞州參議員伊麗莎白·沃倫的談話。

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