Name: 加沙學生："我在捱餓，並患有失憶症" | BBC News (Gazan student: ‘I am starving and suffering from memory loss’ | BBC News)
Uploaded: 2025-07-23T17:17:58.000Z
Duration: 7 min 47 s

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We're going to bring in a young man from Gaza, because we've been talking a lot about the severe malnutrition affecting very young people.

我們將請出一位來自加沙的年輕人，因為我們一直在談論嚴重營養不良對年輕人的影響。

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But it's also a huge barrier to those who are trying to receive an education.

但這也是那些想接受教育的人的巨大障礙。

Last year, it was reported that over 90% of schools in Gaza have been destroyed, raising concerns that a generation of children's education has been badly disrupted.

據報道，去年加沙 90% 以上的學校被毀，這引起了人們對一代兒童教育受到嚴重破壞的擔憂。

Rezak Rok is a young student who joins us from Khan Yunus.

雷扎克-羅克（Rezak Rok）是一位年輕的學生，他從尤努斯汗來到這裡。

Rezak, can I first ask you about what you've last had to eat?

雷扎克，我能先問問你上次吃了什麼嗎？

Yeah, so at the first, I wanted to say thank you for interviewing me to this great channel.

是的，首先，我想說的是，感謝你們採訪我，讓我加入這個偉大的頻道。

And I would like to say thanks for transporting the message from here in Gaza.

我想說的是，感謝你們從加沙這裡傳遞信息。

So it's been a very hard days here in Gaza for us to, we couldn't find the food.

是以，在加沙的日子對我們來說非常難熬，我們找不到食物。

So I'm literally talking with you while I'm starving, and I am suffering from maybe a memory loss due to the lack of food and supplies.

所以，我真的是在捱餓的時候和你說話，而且由於缺乏食物和補給，我可能正在遭受失憶的痛苦。

And yeah, so it's a short term, but everything will be okay.

是的，這只是短期的，但一切都會好起來的。

We are facing very big problems, and one of it is the education and the studies issues.

我們面臨著非常大的問題，其中之一就是教育和學習問題。

So I wasn't able to complete my education due to, to destroy the schools and the education centers.

是以，由於學校和教育中心遭到破壞，我沒能完成學業。

But I'm trying and doing my best to study online and taking courses and improving my English language as well.

但我正在努力，盡最大努力在網上學習，選修課程，同時提高自己的英語水平。

They destroyed the schools, but we are trying to make and to make online generation of the school.

他們摧毀了學校，但我們正試圖讓學校成為網上一代。

We are making online schools and groups on WhatsApp and Telegram, and we are trying to collect all the information and try to learn the people who cannot use internet.

我們正在 WhatsApp 和 Telegram 上建立在線學校和群組，努力收集所有資訊，並嘗試讓無法使用互聯網的人學習。

So we are doing our best to have knowledge and collect knowledge and information from around the world.

是以，我們正在盡最大努力瞭解和收集世界各地的知識和資訊。

So we want to tell you that the school and...

是以，我們想告訴大家，學校和...

I was just going to say congratulations on all the work you've been doing on your English.

我只是想說，祝賀你在英語方面所做的一切。

So it's obviously very effective, some of the online work you've been doing.

是以，你所做的一些在線工作顯然非常有效。

Can you tell us what it is that you've been studying, what you would like to do?

你能告訴我們你一直在學習什麼，你想做什麼嗎？

Recently I was working the most on my English.

最近，我在英語方面下的功夫最多。

Like I think it's the most important thing right now to have a second language.

我認為現在最重要的是掌握第二語言。

The teachers, we are facing the lack of teachers because most of them, unfortunately, they died and they've been attacked.

教師方面，我們正面臨教師匱乏的問題，因為他們中的大多數人都不幸去世或遭到襲擊。

So we are facing hard to study and to know the lessons and to know the books.

是以，我們正努力學習，瞭解課程，瞭解書本。

所以，是的，我們可能會遇到困難。

I understand, Rezek, that you would like to be a doctor one day, that that is your dream.

我明白，雷塞克，你希望有一天能成為一名醫生，那是你的夢想。

Yeah, I am trying to improve my skills and collect every information and to increase my knowledge.

是的，我正在努力提高自己的技能，收集各種資訊，增長知識。

One day I will be a doctor to heal and to give treatment for the people who could not make it to the hospital.

有一天，我會成為一名醫生，為那些不能去醫院的人治病救人。

And as you know, I'm living in our zone and I am seeing how the doctor is important to save a life.

如你所知，我生活在我們的區域，我看到了醫生對拯救生命的重要性。

Most of people died here from the lack of the doctor and from the medical staff.

這裡的大多數人都死於缺少醫生和醫務人員。

So yeah, the doctor person is a very important person in the community.

是以，醫生在社區中是一個非常重要的人。

And Rezek, how is it that you are able to study when you're hungry?

雷塞克，你怎麼能在飢餓的時候學習呢？

It must be difficult when you are in need of food and water as well, just to be able to concentrate.

在需要食物和水的情況下，要想集中精力一定很困難。

Right now I didn't have it for like three days and I didn't have enough meal for maybe three months.

現在，我大概有三天沒吃東西了，可能三個月都沒吃飽飯。

I am giving the food for my little siblings, for the younger siblings who need the food most than me.

我把食物送給我的弟弟妹妹，送給比我更需要食物的弟弟妹妹。

I'm 17 years old, so I may not need the food as much as them and it's not important for me as much as them.

我已經 17 歲了，所以我可能沒有他們那麼需要食物，對我來說也沒有他們那麼重要。

I have a five-year-old kid who is trying to learn as well.

我有一個五歲的孩子，他也在努力學習。

I'm trying to teach him, but he cannot like have the information in his head while he is starving and all what he thinks about is food.

我試著教他，但他在捱餓的時候腦子裡想的都是食物，根本無法理解這些資訊。

Me too, I think about food a lot because I crave a lot of foods which is not available here for me.

我也是，我經常想吃東西，因為我想吃很多這裡沒有的食物。

All that's available here is maybe a bunch of fries and yeah, a little piece of bread.

這裡只有一堆薯條和一小塊麵包。

The last time I saw a loaf of bread was a long time ago.

我上次看到麵包已經是很久以前的事了。

So as I told you, I am suffering from a memory loss.

所以，正如我告訴過你的，我正在遭受失憶的折磨。

It's a short term due to the lack of food, but I'm doing my best and my studies are going well.

由於缺乏食物，這只是一個短期，但我正在盡最大努力，學習也很順利。

And I hope I will be able to achieve my dream.

We really hope that you are able to achieve that dream one day, that big dream of becoming a doctor and congratulations on your English.

我們衷心希望你有朝一日能夠實現這個夢想，實現成為一名醫生的偉大夢想，並祝賀你獲得了英語證書。

As I said, keep up the good work with your studies and all the ingenious ways you're coming up with to study with WhatsApp groups and things online.

就像我說的，繼續努力學習，用 WhatsApp 群組和網上的東西，想出各種巧妙的學習方法。

Thank you so much for joining us from Cannes, Eunice.

非常感謝您從坎城來到這裡，尤妮絲。

Rushdie is still with us too, listening into that.

拉什迪也依然與我們同在，他在傾聽我們的心聲。

Rushdie, isn't it amazing to just hear how Rezik is trying to continue his education when he doesn't have a school because of the damage to the buildings.

拉什迪，當你聽到雷茲克在因建築物受損而沒有學校的情況下，還在努力繼續學業，是不是很令人驚訝？

But I wanted to ask you about some of the lines we're hearing out of Israel today that say that there is quite a lot of aid at the border, but it's stuck there and isn't able to be distributed.

但我想問你，我們今天從以色列聽到的一些說法稱，邊境上有很多援助物資，但它們被困在那裡，無法分發。

How much do we know about what is happening at the border and that process of getting aid in?

我們對邊境發生的事情以及援助物資的運送過程瞭解多少？

Well, there is two factors when it comes to the aid and the border.

說到援助和邊境，有兩個因素。

First, Israel is not allowing the UNRWA, which they have a lot of stuff, a lot of trucks, and they are capable of doing the job that they have been doing for the last 70 years.

首先，以色列不允許聯合國近東巴勒斯坦難民救濟和工程處（UNRWA）開展工作，而他們擁有大量物資和卡車，有能力完成過去 70 年來一直在做的工作。

The other smaller UN agencies, they are not capable of doing what exactly the UNRWA used to do.

其他規模較小的聯合國機構則無法完全勝任近東救濟工程處以往的工作。

Number two, when we talk to the people in Gaza who are responsible, they have knowledge about this.

第二，當我們與加沙的負責人交談時，他們對此有所瞭解。

They said Israel allows 15, 20, maximum 30 trucks every day, where people need 500 to 600 trucks every day to overcome this problem.

他們說，以色列每天允許 15 輛、20 輛、最多 30 輛卡車通行，而人們每天需要 500 至 600 輛卡車才能解決這個問題。

We have seen this problem solved very quickly back in January when the ceasefire was in place and Israel started to allow 500, 600 trucks every day.

我們看到，早在一月份停火時，這個問題就很快得到了解決，以色列開始每天允許 500 至 600 輛卡車通行。

Within a week, we have seen a significant change in the level of humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the markets were full of food and flour and everything.

一週之內，我們看到加沙的人道主義危機程度發生了顯著變化，市場上到處都是食品、麵粉和其他東西。

But this time, what has been allowed is described by the people as a drop in the ocean.

但這一次，所允許的東西被人們形容為滄海一粟。

Yesterday, they allowed 15 trucks into northern Gaza, where half of the population, about a million people, they live in Gaza City and the north, and 15 trucks were not enough.

昨天，他們允許 15 輛卡車進入加沙北部，那裡有一半的人口，大約一百萬人，他們住在加沙市和北部，15 輛卡車是不夠的。

And always, there is gangs are looting the trucks, and they sell it for a high price, sometimes 200 times higher than the original price.

而且，總是有幫派搶劫卡車，並以高價出售，有時比原價高出 200 倍。

And the people in Gaza believe that this is the worst manmade starvation in the history of Gaza.

加沙人民認為，這是加沙歷史上最嚴重的人為飢餓。

Rushdie, thank you so much for joining us.

拉什迪，非常感謝您接受我們的採訪。

Rushdie Abolof, our Gaza correspondent, joining us there from Istanbul.

Rushdie Abolof，本臺駐加沙記者，正在伊斯坦布爾與我們連線。

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