Name: 硬漢學校 "創始人揭示他學到的 "最大 "商業教訓 ('School of Hard Knocks' founder reveals the 'biggest' lesson in business he has learned)
Uploaded: 2025-07-23T03:06:59.000Z
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What's been the biggest driving factor of your success throughout your career?

在您的職業生涯中，什麼是推動您取得成功的最大因素？

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It is my desire to deliver the very best that I've always felt for myself

Even when I was a little kid before movies is when I had any job

甚至當我還是個孩子時，還沒看電影，我就有了工作

I always wanted to understand how to do that job and then do it at the very highest level that I possibly can do not

我一直想了解如何做好這項工作，然後盡我所能做到最好。

Fear anything. No, it's not a matter. I don't mind being afraid. I want an adventurous life

害怕什麼？不，這不是問題。我不介意害怕。我想要冒險的生活

I want it and don't be so afraid to be afraid or nervous

The important thing is to keep pursuing your dreams and finding accurate things that are going to add to your life and to others

重要的是不斷追求自己的夢想，找到能為你和他人的生活增添光彩的準確事物

That is a clip from the School of Hard Knocks the business media platform founded by 23 year old James Dumoulin

這是 23 歲的詹姆斯-杜穆林（James Dumoulin）創辦的商業媒體平臺 "School of Hard Knocks "上的一段視頻。

Who's been landing interviews with everyone from Mission Impossible star Tom Cruise to top business leaders and billionaires today?

如今，從《碟中諜》明星湯姆-克魯斯到頂級商界領袖和億萬富翁，誰一直在接受採訪？

James's brand is on a mission of his own he's amassed 15 million followers across social media by inspiring the next generation of entrepreneurs and

詹姆斯的品牌肩負著自己的使命，他通過激勵下一代企業家和創業者，在社交媒體上積累了 1,500 萬粉絲。

Investors with real-world advice from millionaires and billionaires on how to build wealth and achieve financial freedom

投資者從百萬富翁和億萬富翁那裡獲得關於如何積累財富和實現財務自由的真實建議

Joining me now in a Fox Business exclusive live in studio is the School of Hard Knocks co-founder James Dumoulin

硬漢學校的聯合創始人詹姆斯-杜穆林（James Dumoulin）將在福克斯商業頻道的獨家直播間與我們見面。

How did you how did you grab Tom Cruise for that Paramount reached out to us?

派拉蒙公司是怎麼找到湯姆-克魯斯的？

I'm sorry. They reached out to you. They reached out to us and ironically was Tom's idea

對不起他們聯繫了你他們聯繫了我們，諷刺的是，這是湯姆的主意

Actually, I guess he'd been seeing our content for a couple months and he had a movie coming out and he's like

實際上，我猜他看我們的內容已經有幾個月了，他有一部電影要上映，他就想

Might as well get on all the hot channels and we're one of the biggest in the world right now

我們現在是世界上最大的廣播公司之一。

So we made it happen again, but he could have picked any of these crazy

於是，我們又做了一次，但他本可以選擇任何一個瘋狂的地方

Influencers who don't don't have a lot of substance. He picked you so you're very young 23

沒有影響力的人沒有太多內涵。他選了你，所以你很年輕 23

When did you start the School of Hard Knocks? I started this

你是什麼時候開始苦練學校的？我從

I was a freshman in college at the University of Texas. So it was 2021. I think I was about 19 years old

我當時是德克薩斯大學的大一新生。那是 2021 年。我大概 19 歲

I just saw an immense opportunity with the creator economy at the time

我只是看到了當時創造者經濟的巨大商機

It was a 200 billion dollar industry and you know

這是一個價值 2000 億美元的產業，你知道

I was blessed to be able to start this channel with my two incredible co-founders my brother Jack Dumoulin

我很幸運能夠與我的兩位令人難以置信的共同創始人一起創辦這個頻道，我的兄弟傑克-杜穆林（Jack Dumoulin）。

My other childhood friend Joshua Smith and we're like there's a huge opportunity. We had a passion for business

我的另一位童年好友約書亞-史密斯（Joshua Smith）和我們都覺得這是個巨大的機會。我們對商業充滿熱情

Let's go all in and you decided to go around find wealthy people

讓我們全力以赴，你決定四處尋找富人

Right off the bat you didn't get the big billionaires, right?

一開始你就沒抓到那些億萬富翁，對嗎？

When I wasn't in class at the University of Texas, my brother and I would spend hours walking around downtown, Austin

在德克薩斯大學不上課的時候，我和哥哥會花幾個小時在奧斯汀市中心散步。

我們會得到 50 個知道如何獲得一個

Yes but I think that that's a part of the game and one of the biggest lessons that we've learned in business is that look every

是的，但我認為這也是遊戲的一部分，我們在生意場上學到的最大經驗之一就是：看清每一個人。

I'm sure you anybody that's built and had a lot of success in their industry

我相信你們每個人都在自己的行業中取得了巨大的成功

But as long as you can remember that no just means not yet

但只要你能記住，"不 "只是意味著 "還沒有"。

You'll eventually get those yeses and get to the money you you've done celebrities

你最終會得到這些 "是"，並得到你所做的名人的錢

But you pick celebrities who have a track record of being good business minds Shaquille O'Neal the NBA star

但你要選擇那些有良好商業頭腦記錄的名人 NBA 明星沙奎爾-奧尼爾（Shaquille O'Neal

He has his hands in so many businesses. He has really used his money wisely

他涉足眾多行業。他真的把錢用在了刀刃上

You've talked to Will Smith the actor CEOs of Chipotle Arizona iced tea is one of your more recent ones

你曾與 Will Smith 聊過，他是 Chipotle 公司的首席執行官，亞利桑那冰茶是你最近的作品之一。

I'm really interested to know if there's a common thread and what is that one question you ask them all, you know?

我真的很想知道是否有一個共同點，以及你問他們的那個問題是什麼，你知道嗎？

There's a lot of common threads, you know

One that comes to mind right off the bat is that billionaires think in decades not days?

我馬上想到的一點是，億萬富翁的思維是幾十年而不是幾天？

And I think that this is a big problem that my generation struggles with is there's this instant gratification

我認為這是我們這一代人要解決的一個大問題，因為我們這一代人有一種即時滿足感。

But I've learned and you know, just as an example, I recently interviewed Reed Hoffman. Who's the founder of LinkedIn?

但我已經學會了，你知道，舉個例子，我最近採訪了裡德-霍夫曼（Reed Hoffman）。誰是 LinkedIn 的創始人？

He sold LinkedIn to Microsoft for 26 billion dollars

他以 260 億美元的價格將 LinkedIn 賣給了微軟

And I asked him I said Reed if you had to start over and make a billion dollars in one year

我問他，裡德，如果讓你重新開始，在一年內賺到十億美元

What would you do? He said look, I don't ever play a one-year game

你會怎麼做？他說，聽著，我從不玩一年的遊戲

I only I only play a 10-year game and I've noticed that right they think in generations

我只玩了 10 年的遊戲，我注意到他們的思維方式是以世代為組織、部門的。

They think so much bigger and you got to get out of this short-term thinking you got to get away from people

他們想得太多了，你必須擺脫這種短期思維，你必須擺脫人們的束縛

I would say that the biggest way the fastest way to kill a big dream is to introduce it to a small mind

我想說的是，扼殺一個偉大夢想的最大、最快的方式，就是將它引入一個狹小的心靈中

Oh, I I couldn't agree more and you talk to anybody

哦，我完全同意你的觀點，你可以和任何人談談

It was when somebody tried to tell somebody whom they respected in their life crazy tried to say, you know

當有人想告訴他們一生中尊敬的人，瘋狂地想說，你知道的

It's not such a great idea. Go get a real job. Yeah, tune those people out is what I'm hearing you

這不是個好主意去找份真正的工作吧是啊，我聽你的意思是把那些人趕走

I'll tell you what there's a saying nobody else's thoughts ever paid my bills and I and I firmly I firmly believe in that

我告訴你，有句俗話說，別人的想法永遠付不起我的賬單，我堅信這一點。

Because like why listen to negative people?

因為為什麼要聽那些消極的人？

That's why one of the best decisions that me my brother my childhood friend made was kind of getting out of our hometown

這就是為什麼我、我的兄弟、我兒時的朋友做出的最好的決定之一就是離開我們的家鄉。

We moved to a city like Austin, Texas where entrepreneurship it was receptive people supported one another and that

我們搬到了像德克薩斯州奧斯汀這樣的城市，那裡的創業者樂於接受，人們相互支持，而且

Collaboration being around that environment enabled us to build a multi-million dollar business in our early 20s in the past week

在這樣的環境中合作，使我們能夠在過去的一週裡，在 20 歲出頭的年紀建立起價值數百萬美元的企業。

He's the head of fanatics Michael Rubin and he's he's really held up as an example of somebody who just started and began

他是狂熱分子邁克爾-魯賓（Michael Rubin）的首領，他是一個剛剛開始創業的人的榜樣。

Building building building it took him years to create this big sports

他花了數年時間建造這座大型體育館。

Gigantic platform that does merch and all kinds of activities and experiences

提供商品和各種活動及體驗的巨大平臺

Let's listen to the interview that James did with Michael Rubin

讓我們聽聽詹姆斯對邁克爾-魯賓的採訪

Before you built a billion-dollar company, did you have anybody that doubted you people doubt me every day?

在你創建一家市值十億美元的公司之前，有沒有人懷疑過你？

I love that as you know doubters are great. If you look at a doubter, that's motivation

我喜歡這種說法，因為你知道懷疑者是偉大的。如果你看到一個懷疑者，那就是動力

I mean think about we just got in the sports betting business two years ago. Everyone said fanatics has no chance

我的意思是，想想我們兩年前才涉足體育博彩業。每個人都說狂熱者沒有機會

This is a duopoly by FanDuel by DraftKings. Michael Rubin's gonna fail miserably. He's gonna piss away billions of dollars

這是 FanDuel 和 DraftKings 的雙頭壟斷。邁克爾-魯賓會慘敗的他將損失數十億美元

I said bring on that hate. Yeah, bring on that. I love that. You know what? We're now the third biggest sports book

我說把仇恨帶來是啊，來吧我喜歡你知道嗎？我們現在是第三大體育博彩公司

We've been live for 20 months. We're just getting started and

我們已經上線 20 個月了。我們剛剛起步

We we see what he was able to create who struck you the most when it came to dovetailing a life with success of business because you know

我們看到，當談到如何將生活與事業的成功結合起來時，他能創造出哪些令你印象最深刻的作品，因為你知道

You want to not just sit there and work business business business, right?

你不想只是坐在那裡忙生意，對吧？

You want to also have an important life that gives back yeah you know, I don't know if any one specific person comes to mind, but what I will say is one of the biggest things that stands out to me above all else is

我不知道我是否能想到某個具體的人，但我要說的是，我覺得最突出的一點是

You know you you can talk all about money all you want in interviews, which is what we do

你知道，你可以在採訪中盡情談論錢，我們也是這麼做的

But I'll tell you one other common thread that I've really noticed

但我要告訴你們，我還注意到一個共同點

Is it just the incredible role that faith has played in a lot of these people's lives putting God first?

是信仰在許多人的生活中發揮了不可思議的作用，把上帝放在第一位嗎？

I've realized and I've learned early on that the money the relationships the businesses at the end of the day

我很早就意識到，金錢、關係和企業最終都會影響到我們的生活。

It's a dying dead road. It doesn't last forever

這是一條垂死的死路。它不會永遠存在

So I think that that common thread of having that belief in God and having that belief in something bigger than you is

是以，我認為，信仰上帝和信仰比你更偉大的事物的共同點是

Something that I think really stands out whenever whenever I'm conducting these interviews and you have been very smart when it comes to

每當我進行這些採訪時，我都覺得有一些東西非常突出，而你在採訪時也非常聰明。

Checking all the boxes and spreading yourself out you do YouTube Twitter Instagram

你在 YouTube Twitter Instagram 上勾選了所有框框，並將自己散佈出去

TikTok let's talk about your followers. You've grown it to what total 15 million

TikTok 讓我們來談談你的粉絲。你的粉絲總數已經增長到了 1500 萬

Yeah over 15 million followers 15 million and something like 4 billion views

是的，超過 1500 萬粉絲 1500 萬，大約 40 億次觀看

You've generated over four years well over who's your demographic because you're aiming to help the next generation of investors and and people out

四年多來，你已經創造了超過你的人口統計，因為你的目標是幫助下一代的投資者和人們出來。

There who are facing a very difficult time where they can't afford a house

Even if they have a full-time job, and it's very upsetting for a lot of college grads and people who didn't go to college, right?

即使他們有一份全職工作，這也會讓很多大學畢業生和沒上過大學的人感到非常沮喪，對嗎？

you know when we originally started the channel the demographic that we were hoping to target was actually that next generation of high school and

要知道，當我們最初開設這個頻道時，我們希望針對的人群實際上是下一代的高中生和大學生。

College kids and the beautiful thing about having omnipresence on social media, right?

大學生和社交媒體上無所不在的美好事物，不是嗎？

We've got millions of followers across Instagram tik-tok Facebook and YouTube is we've been able to build

我們在 Instagram tik-tok Facebook 和 YouTube 上擁有數以百萬計的追隨者，這是因為我們能夠建立

Different audience across all the platforms, right? Obviously Facebook so much older demographic compared to tick-tock

所有平臺的閱聽人都不同，對嗎？與嘀嗒相比，Facebook 的閱聽人年齡顯然要大得多

But what we've learned is that you know, who's the most receptive to it is actually that like late 20s to mid 30s

但我們瞭解到，最容易接受它的人其實是 20 多歲到 30 多歲的年輕人。

Yeah, and I think the reason why is because they're at that point in their life where they're like I wasted my 20s

是的，我認為原因在於他們正處於人生的那個階段，他們會覺得我浪費了我的20歲。

It's time for me to get serious about investing in myself about maybe going all in on myself building a business or just getting savvy

現在是我認真投資自己的時候了，也許我可以全心投入自己的事業，或者只是變得精明一些。

You know with with you know becoming financially free

And so I think that that's why that demographic has been so strong across all of our time to stop with this $17 Long Island iced teas and the $7 lattes and start focusing on the future. It is great to see you James

是以，我認為，這就是為什麼在我們所有的時間裡，這一人群一直如此強大，以至於我們不再喝 17 美元的長島冰茶和 7 美元的拿鐵咖啡，而是開始關注未來。很高興見到你，詹姆斯

Will you come back? I'll be back. You let me know we'll make it happen

你會回來嗎？我會回來的你讓我知道，我們會做到的

Yeah, James de Moulin and by the way, the way your name is spelled do Moulin. Yes French. Yes the background of French

對，詹姆斯-德-穆林 順便說一下，你的名字拼法是 "穆林是法語是的，法國的背景

It's it's very aristocratic, right? Well, thank you for having me

很貴族化，對吧？謝謝你邀請我

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