Name: 加州州長抨擊特朗普 "煽動 "抗議活動，洛杉磯開始實施宵禁 | BBC News (Curfew begins in LA as California governor attacks Trump for 'inflaming' protests | BBC News)
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We start Newsday in the United States, where a curfew has just come into effect in downtown LA, as protests over immigration raids continue for a fifth day.

我們從美國的《新聞日報》開始，洛杉磯市中心的宵禁剛剛生效，因為移民突襲的抗議活動已經持續了第五天。

In the last hour, California Governor Gavin Newsom has said he doesn't want the streets of his state militarized by the country's armed forces.

在過去的一個小時裡，加利福尼亞州州長加文-紐森（Gavin Newsom）表示，他不希望本州的街道被國家武裝力量軍事化。

It comes as the federal government has sent National Guard and Marines to quell the protests.

聯邦政府已派出國民警衛隊和海軍陸戰隊鎮壓抗議活動。

The Department of Homeland Security confirmed that those troops will be providing protection for immigration agents during raids.

國土安全部證實，這些部隊將在突襲行動中為移民特工提供保護。

Now here is part of what Governor Newsom had to say moments ago.

下面是紐森州長剛才的部分發言。

Like many states, California is no stranger to this sort of unrest.

與許多州一樣，加州對此類動亂並不陌生。

We manage it regularly and with our own law enforcement.

我們通過自己的執法部門定期進行管理。

What then ensued was the use of tear gas, flashbang grenades, rubber bullets.

隨後使用了催淚瓦斯、閃光彈和橡皮子彈。

Federal agents detaining people and undermining their due process rights.

聯邦特工拘留民眾，破壞他們的正當程序權利。

Donald Trump, without consulting California law enforcement leaders, commandeered 2,000 of our state's National Guard members to deploy on our streets, illegally and for no reason.

唐納德-特朗普在沒有諮詢加州執法部門上司的情況下，徵用了本州 2000 名國民警衛隊成員，非法且毫無理由地部署在我們的街道上。

This brazen abuse of power by a sitting president inflamed a combustible situation, putting our people, our officers, and even our National Guard at risk.

現任總統公然濫用權力，激化了可燃的局勢，使我們的人民、軍官甚至國民警衛隊處於危險之中。

就是從那時開始，我的生活開始走下坡路。

He doubled down on his dangerous National Guard deployment by fanning the flames even harder.

他在危險的國民警衛隊部署中加倍努力，煽風點火。

Let's go live now to Los Angeles, where our correspondent, Carl Nasman, is following this story for us.

現在讓我們去洛杉磯現場直播，我們的記者卡爾-納斯曼正在那裡為我們跟蹤報道此事。

Carl, the curfew went into effect a few minutes ago.

卡爾，宵禁幾分鐘前開始生效了。

Tell us what the situation is like where you are.

告訴我們你所在的地方情況如何。

Yeah, that's an 8 p.m. curfew, so we're about a couple minutes into it now.

是啊，這是一個晚上8點的宵禁， 所以我們現在大約幾分鐘。

We are in that zone where there are severe restrictions in place.

我們正處於受到嚴格限制的區域。

If you're out on the streets, you would be subject to arrest for most people in this area.

如果你上街，對這個地區的大多數人來說，你都會被逮捕。

There is a very big line of police officers here.

你可以看到那些警棍已經準備就緒。

And what we've been told is that they're now ready to, at any moment now, begin to march forward and clear the streets here of anybody who's still left on the streets of this area of downtown Los Angeles.

我們被告知，他們現在已經準備好，隨時開始前進，清理街道上還留在洛杉磯市中心街道上的任何人。

Something that the mayor was stressing was that this is a small area.

市長強調的是，這是一個很小的區域。

This is about a one-square-mile zone of downtown Los Angeles, of course, which is already a small area of the city.

當然，這只是洛杉磯市中心約一平方英里的區域，而這已經是該市很小的一塊區域了。

So emphasizing, you know, this isn't martial law.

所以強調，你知道，這不是戒嚴。

This isn't something where no one will be out on the streets in the entire city.

這可不是整個城市都沒有人上街的事情。

But as you can see, taking this very seriously here, a large police presence, and most of those demonstrators that we've seen, even in pockets, even in small gatherings throughout the day, have now dissipated.

但正如你所看到的，我們非常嚴肅地對待這件事，大批警察在場，我們看到的大多數示威者，即使是小範圍的，甚至是全天的小規模聚集，現在都已經散去。

And there's very few people left in the streets.

I'm just going to look down that way and very empty streets there as well.

我順著那條路往下看，那裡的街道也非常空曠。

So we're going to be waiting here, Steve, and we want to just see how this curfew does go into effect, what kind of reaction it gets from anyone that is left out in the streets.

史蒂夫，我們就在這裡等著，我們想看看宵禁令到底是怎麼生效的，那些被留在街上的人又會有什麼反應。

But this is something that was announced by the mayor of Los Angeles earlier on today.

但這是洛杉磯市長今天早些時候宣佈的。

And this is clearly an attempt to try to gain control of the situation, especially as you can tell, we're only a few minutes away from sunset.

這顯然是在試圖控制局勢 尤其是你可以看到 我們離日落只有幾分鐘了

And that's when we've seen some of those troublemakers really come out and start to wreak a bit of havoc across the city.

就在那時，我們看到一些麻煩製造者真的出現了，並開始在整個城市造成一些破壞。

You know, Kyle, you've been out on the streets for us for the last few days.

凱爾，這幾天你一直在街上為我們奔波

Just remind us of how events have unfolded and indeed escalated over the last few days that have now culminated and led to this application of a curfew.

讓我們回想一下，在過去的幾天裡，事件是如何發展和升級的，最終導致了這次宵禁的實施。

What was interesting, because earlier we saw a mirror image of something that we saw on Sunday night, and that was a group of protesters making their way down onto the freeway, which passes right through downtown Los Angeles, the 101 freeway.

有趣的是，早些時候我們看到了週日晚上的鏡像，那就是一群抗議者正走到高速公路上，這條高速公路正好穿過洛杉磯市中心，即 101 號高速公路。

They briefly again blocked traffic on on both directions until police were able to get down there, usher them away.

他們再次短暫地阻斷了雙向交通，直到警察趕到現場，把他們趕走。

But, you know, we saw these very chaotic scenes on Sunday where protesters managed to occupy parts of the freeway for about an hour.

但是，你知道，我們在週日看到了這些非常混亂的場面，抗議者設法佔據了高速公路的部分路段約一個小時。

It took a lot of effort from police to get them out of there.

警察費了好大勁才把他們救出來。

Then 67 people arrested just in that incident today.

僅在今天的事件中就有 67 人被捕。

And these are the kinds of scenes, obviously, that they want to avoid here and try to get visual control over the city.

顯然，他們希望避免這些場景，並試圖在視覺上控制這座城市。

They don't want any more scenes playing out.

And I think there's a bit of a messaging battle here, too.

We saw two different addresses by two leaders of California, the mayor of Los Angeles and then the governor of California, denouncing the actions by President Trump.

我們看到加州的兩位領導人--洛杉磯市長和加州州長先後發表講話，譴責特朗普總統的行為。

And then we've heard President Trump saying that if he wants to see law and order in the city and he believes that his actions of deputizing and sending in National Guard troops, as well as beginning to send in hundreds of active duty Marines, he thinks that those actions helped to to start to calm things down.

然後我們聽到特朗普總統說，如果他想看到城市的法律和秩序，他相信他的行動，即派遣國民警衛隊，以及開始派遣數百名現役海軍陸戰隊員，他認為這些行動有助於開始平息事態。

But it definitely seems like right now this is the biggest action we've seen from the local officials here to really gain the upper hand.

但現在看來，這絕對是我們從當地官員那裡看到的真正佔據上風的最大行動。

And again, we're waiting and watching as this line of California highway patrol officers stands by and we'll see if they begin to move in.

同樣，我們也在等待和觀察 加州公路巡警的行動 我們會看到他們是否開始行動

And there's likely similar scenes playing out in different areas, different boundaries of where this curfew is set.

在不同的地區、不同的宵禁邊界，很可能會出現類似的場景。

Again, a one mile radius in downtown Los Angeles.

同樣，在洛杉磯市中心一英里半徑範圍內。

Actually, Steve, just before I let you go, I could tell you, can you can you see that right there?

事實上，史蒂夫，就在我讓你走之前，我可以告訴你，你能看到那裡嗎？

We're getting a cell phone alert and this is telling everybody in the area it's a public safety alert saying that the city of Los Angeles has declared a curfew.

我們收到一個手機警報，這是一個公共安全警報，說洛杉磯市已經宣佈宵禁。

It's now officially in place from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m.

現在正式實施的時間為晚 8 點至早 6 點。

So everybody in this area right now getting that text message for people to know that it's now a curfew zone.

所以現在在這個區域的每個人 都會收到簡訊告知現在是宵禁時間

Kyle, thanks very much for getting us up to speed with those latest details now that the curfew has been put into place.

凱爾，非常感謝你在宵禁令實施後向我們提供最新的細節。

Kyle Nassman there on the streets of Los Angeles.

A U.S. president, Donald Trump, says the protests in downtown L.A. against immigration raids are an assault on peace and public order.

美國總統唐納德-特朗普（Donald Trump）說，洛杉磯市中心針對移民突襲的抗議活動是對和平與公共秩序的攻擊。

During a visit to North Carolina, the president doubled down on deploying more National Guard troops and Marines to the city.

在訪問北卡羅來納州期間，總統加倍努力向該市部署更多國民警衛隊和海軍陸戰隊。

As long as we have the military there, the protests won't mean anything.

只要有軍隊在，抗議就沒有任何意義。

Last night, if we weren't there, they would have burned down the city.

昨晚，如果我們不在那裡，他們就會燒掉這座城市。

A lot of damage other than they broke up a lot of concrete looking for weapons.

除了他們在尋找武器時破壞了很多混凝土外，沒有造成其他損失。

If that hits somebody in the head, the person's dead.

如果擊中某人的頭部，那人就死定了。

That's very proud to tell you that they might as well turn around.

那是非常自豪地告訴你，他們不妨掉頭就走。

Some of them will end up in jail for a long period of time.

他們中的一些人將會在監獄中度過漫長的歲月。

And joining us for more on this from L.A. to discuss the legal implications of deploying the U.S. military to the streets of the city is Jodi David-Armer, a professor of law at University of Southern California.

南加州大學（University of Southern California）法學教授喬迪-戴維-阿默（Jodi David-Armer）將從洛杉磯為我們帶來更多報道，討論將美軍部署到城市街道的法律影響。

Jodi, thanks very much for your time today.

喬迪，非常感謝你今天抽出時間。

Now, we heard earlier from Governor Gavin Newsom criticizing President Trump.

現在，我們聽到了州長加文-紐森（Gavin Newsom）早些時候對特朗普總統的責備。

He called his actions a brazen abuse of power.

他稱自己的行為是公然濫用權力。

Is he right or is there a legal reasoning for the Trump administration to deploy a military to the streets of L.A.?

特朗普政府在洛杉磯街頭部署軍隊是對還是錯？

Well, frankly, there is quite a bit of precedent that gives the president the power to invoke, for example, the Insurrection Act.

坦率地說，有很多先例賦予總統援引《叛亂法》的權力。

The local authorities, governor and others, did not want to integrate schools, did not want black children coming into the schools.

地方當局、州長和其他人不想讓學校合併，不想讓黑人孩子進入學校。

Dwight Eisenhower federalized the National Guard, told them to stand down and stop interfering with black kids making it to the schools.

德懷特-艾森豪威爾（Dwight Eisenhower）將國民警衛隊聯邦化，讓他們退下，不要再幹擾黑人孩子上學。

And then he sent troops in to walk those black girls and boys into those schools and sit them in the seats.

然後，他派兵把那些黑人女孩和男孩送進學校，讓他們坐在座位上。

And that happened also in the South and places like Alabama and Mississippi in the early 60s.

60 年代初，這種情況也發生在南方以及阿拉巴馬州和密西西比州等地。

So there is precedent for what he's doing.

是以，他的做法是有先例可循的。

And, you know, his position would be, I have a national mandate and here are some local authorities who are refusing to robustly enforce my national mandate.

你知道，他的立場是，我有一個國家任務，而這裡有一些地方當局拒絕大力執行我的國家任務。

And so just like back there in 1957, when Eisenhower had to federalize the National Guard to make sure that the local authorities conform to his wishes and will the national mandate, I'm just doing the same kind of thing.

是以，就像 1957 年艾森豪威爾不得不將國民警衛隊聯邦化，以確保地方當局遵從他的意願和國家任務一樣，我只是在做同樣的事情。

So he's going to he's going to try to spin the narrative for sure that way.

所以，他一定會試圖以這種方式來編造故事。

But the circumstances are incredibly different in this aspect, aren't they?

但在這方面，情況卻截然不同，不是嗎？

You know, there you had somebody trying to promote and protect values of equality, right, and saying that there was a national consensus that black citizens should be treated equally with white citizens and we will send in federal troops to enforce that.

你知道，有人試圖宣傳和保護平等的價值觀，對吧，他說，全國已經達成共識，黑人公民應該得到與白人公民同等的待遇，我們將派遣聯邦軍隊來執行這一規定。

There's a lot there's not that clear consensus on the values that Trump is trying to promote or vindicate by bringing in the agents rather than allowing the process of protest, the normal process of protest and free speech to run its course, as it has been in many other instances without the federal officers coming in.

對於特朗普試圖通過引入特工，而不是允許抗議過程、抗議的正常過程和言論自由的過程來促進或維護的價值觀，很多人並沒有達成明確的共識，就像在其他很多沒有聯邦官員介入的情況下一樣。

Well, a curfew has now been put into place in your view.

在你看來，現在已經實行了宵禁。

Is that the right course of action for local authorities to take?

Well, a lot of local authorities are going to err on the side of safety and too often civil liberties are sacrificed for the sake of safety.

很多地方當局都會在安全方面犯錯誤，而為了安全，公民自由往往會被犧牲掉。