Name: 富有成效的日常工作⏱️，管理朝九晚五的技術工作 + YouTube⁉️ (ft.@JeffSu @ Google) (productive routine⏱️managing 9-5 tech job + YouTube⁉️ (ft.@JeffSu @ Google))
Uploaded: 2025-06-06T08:35:33.000Z
Duration: 11 min 46 s

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If you really want to do something, you will find the time to do it.

如果你真的想做一件事，你就會找到時間去做。

第二類條件句型

I'm not sure if you did that on purpose, Lillian.

我不知道你是不是故意的，莉莉安。

I call it the Core Workflow, C-O-R-E, Core.

我稱之為核心工作流程，C-O-R-E，核心。

Hi, welcome back to Coffee Chat with Lillian.

嗨，歡迎回到 "與莉莉安聊咖啡"。

So the biggest question I always get is, Lillian, so you have your 9-5, how do you have the time to do your YouTube and everything else?

我經常遇到的最大問題是，莉莉安，你朝九晚五，怎麼有時間做 YouTube 和其他事情？

And I have learned so much throughout the journey and I want to share two key mindsets for me.

在整個旅程中，我學到了很多東西，我想與大家分享我的兩個關鍵心態。

The first one is that, okay, you have your 9-5, but also you have your 5-9.

首先，好吧，你有你的朝九晚五，但也有你的朝五晚九。

So the second mindset for me is to think before I do.

是以，我的第二種心態是先想後做。

Basically, I use the scatter time, like during the commute, in the elevator, or even by taking a shower to brainstorm and think.

基本上，我利用通勤途中、電梯裡，甚至洗澡時等零散時間進行頭腦風暴和思考。

Then when it comes to me opening my laptop, I'm only focused on execution.

是以，當我打開筆記本電腦時，我只關注執行。

Thinking and brainstorming takes the most amount of time and effort versus execution is like, you just get really deep in the focus mode of executing it and finishing those tasks.

思考和集思廣益花費的時間和精力最多，而執行就像，你只需深入到執行和完成這些任務的專注模式中。

第一部分是朝九晚五，我是如何做到的。

Second section is my 5-9 and how I produce all the content and everything else that I do.

第二部分是我的 "5-9"，以及我如何製作所有內容和我所做的其他一切。

I actually use the meeting time to brainstorm together with them.

實際上，我利用會議時間與他們一起集思廣益。

And that way we do the thinking in the meeting versus like a status update.

這樣，我們就能在會議上進行思考，而不是像狀態更新那樣。

When I am in meetings, I always have a Google Doc open and I'm like presenting my note and live typing the note.

開會時，我總是打開谷歌文檔，就像在展示我的筆記，並現場打字。

That way it allows the other person to be really engaged in the conversation, to brainstorm, and we can like already have specific next steps for us to work on and to execute on.

這樣一來，對方就能真正參與到對話中來，集思廣益，我們也能像已經有了具體的下一步措施一樣，去努力和執行。

After the meetings, we only have to reference all of our meeting notes and just execute, execute, execute.

會議結束後，我們只需參考所有的會議記錄，然後執行、執行、再執行。

The other secret tip I have is at your job, you have the luxury of leveraging resources and using existing resources that's around you.

我的另一個祕訣是，在你的工作崗位上，你可以充分利用資源，利用身邊的現有資源。

For instance, if you were to write a code to run an analysis from scratch, that probably takes a lot of the heavy lifting.

例如，如果您要編寫一段代碼來從頭開始進行分析，這可能要花費很多精力。

So in the meeting, I will ask questions like, hey, like, have you seen similar analysis being done by other regions or other teams that we can, you know, take inspirations from?

是以，在會議上，我會問一些問題，比如，嘿，你有沒有看到其他地區或其他團隊也在做類似的分析，我們可以從中得到啟發？

And usually when we take inspiration, we will let the other teams know like, hey, like we love this analysis.

通常，當我們獲得靈感時，我們會讓其他團隊知道，嘿，我們喜歡這種分析。

Is there anything we can build off of it?

I think the point is like leverage resources to make your job more efficient.

我認為，關鍵是要充分利用資源，提高工作效率。

In terms of my five to nine, with YouTube, content creation, podcast and everything, I visualize all of my content creation like an open air.

就我的五到九而言，YouTube、內容創作、播客和一切，我把所有的內容創作都想象成露天的。

An open air is where you have unlimited ideas, which is the hard part because when you don't have structure, that's when you can, because you can go so many ways, then who are you at the other day?

開闊的視野讓你有無限的想法，這是最困難的部分，因為當你沒有結構的時候，你就可以，因為你可以走很多路，那麼那天你是誰呢？

And the way I get closer to knowing who I am is through journaling and diary.

通過寫日記和日記，我更接近於瞭解自己是誰。

So you read my journals, it's a lot of like little things I've noticed about me.

你看我的日記，裡面有很多我注意到的關於我的小事。

For instance, like I'm someone who is very quiet in meetings, but I always make sure when I say something, I make it very impactful.

舉個例子，比如我在會議上非常安靜，但我總是確保我說的話非常有影響力。

When I film, I try to put all the stuff I need to film in one or two days because even though you guys are looking at a perfect, looking million with like a perfect backdrop, but there's a lot of planning that goes behind it.

我在拍攝時，會盡量在一兩天內把所有需要拍攝的東西都準備好，因為儘管你們看到的是一個完美的、看起來像百萬富翁一樣的完美背景，但這背後還有很多計劃要做。

Which location, what day, what outfit, doing the makeup, doing my hair, make sure the lighting is right, borrowing the tripod.

哪個地點、哪一天、穿什麼衣服、化什麼妝、做什麼髮型、燈光是否合適、借什麼三腳架。

If you look behind the scene, like you see right now, like behind the camera, there's a lot that goes on there.

如果你看看幕後，就像你現在看到的那樣，就像在攝影機後面，有很多事情要做。

So with that, I wanted to introduce someone who I really, really admire.

是以，我想介紹一位我非常非常欽佩的人。

This person also works at 9to5 in tech, similar to me, but this person has also built a YouTube channel that is very successful.

這個人也在 9to5 科技公司工作，和我的情況類似，但這個人也建立了一個 YouTube 頻道，而且非常成功。

He recently just crossed 1 million subscribers and I wanted to introduce you to you guys and learn from how he does it all.

他最近剛剛突破了 100 萬訂閱者，我想把他介紹給你們，學習他是如何做到這一切的。

Jeff is a product marketing manager at Google, but he also has a YouTube channel and has turned it into a content business, but you wanna quickly introduce yourself.

傑夫是谷歌的產品營銷經理，但他也有一個YouTube頻道，並把它變成了一個內容業務，不過你還是趕緊自我介紹一下吧。

I'm currently a full-time product marketing manager at Google, but funny story, a lot of my colleagues, when they refer to me, introduce me, they're like, oh, this is a full-time YouTuber and part-time Googler.

我目前是谷歌的全職產品營銷經理，但有趣的是，我的很多同事在提到我、介紹我的時候，都會說，哦，這是一個全職 YouTuber 兼職 Googler。

But can you tell us a little bit about why and when you started your YouTube?

不過，您能告訴我們您為什麼以及什麼時候開始製作 YouTube 嗎？

So I started YouTube back in 2020, but the context as to why I started goes back to when I was in college.

我是 2020 年開始上 YouTube 的，但我為什麼要上 YouTube，還要追溯到我上大學的時候。

So when I was in college, you were probably in kindergarten.

我上大學的時候，你可能還在上幼兒園。

Back in the day, there weren't that many good job search advice online.

過去，網上並沒有那麼多好的求職建議。

The job search advice back then were very subjective.

我想給出以證據為基礎的建議。

I remember my first ever video was uploaded on June 3rd, 2020.

我記得我的第一個視頻是在 2020 年 6 月 3 日上傳的。

How long have you been doing YouTube now?

But you also like turned your YouTube and your content into a full-on business, right?

但你也喜歡把自己的 YouTube 和內容變成一項正式的業務，對嗎？

Do you feel like you're like a founder now or like an owner's mindset?

你覺得自己現在是創始人的心態，還是所有者的心態？

Since Googlers are watching this, of course not.

既然 Googlers 都在看，當然不會。

我是如此專注於我的全職工作。

How could you even ask that question early on?

你怎麼能一開始就問這個問題呢？

But no, I don't think it's a founder story.

但不，我不認為這是一個創始人的故事。

It's more like I basically like to teach.

And number two, I wanted to make the job search process easier.

第二，我想讓求職過程更輕鬆。

是以，我想進行規模教學，對嗎？

And I thought YouTube would just be the easiest way to do that.

我認為 YouTube 是最簡單的方法。

Yeah, I think that's something that I find really similar between us.

是的，我覺得這一點我們很相似。

就像我們都喜歡教一些東西一樣。

And teaching not as in just like teaching for the sake of like sharing knowledge, but it's like, how can I teach something in the simplest way possible for the audience to get it in the shortest amount of time?

教學不是為了分享知識而教學，而是如何用最簡單的方式傳授知識，讓聽眾在最短的時間內掌握？

I'm curious, have you ever run workshops in Spotify for your colleagues?

我很好奇，你有沒有為你的同事舉辦過 Spotify 講座？

I think as a business analyst, I do that on a daily basis of helping people think better, helping people think faster, helping people break down the ambiguous business questions.

我認為，作為一名業務分析師，我每天都在幫助人們更好地思考，幫助人們更快地思考，幫助人們破解模稜兩可的業務問題。

So the reason I ask is at Google, there's this unofficial program, like G2G, Googler to Googler, where you can, anyone can raise their hand and be like, I have something to share.

所以我問這個問題的原因是，在谷歌，有一個非官方的項目，比如G2G，Googler to Googler，在這個項目中，你可以，任何人都可以舉手說，我有東西要分享。

I did that a couple of times and really enjoyed it.

So aside from that, cause I also get a lot of inspiration from my job.

除此之外，我還從工作中獲得了很多靈感。

How did you juggle between your nine to five job and then doing a full-time content?

您是如何兼顧朝九晚五的工作和全職內容的？

When I started in 2020, and I'd love to hear your experience too.

當我在 2020 年開始工作時，我也很想聽聽你的經驗。

I struggled quite a bit to balance both because when I first joined Google, I told myself, I really appreciate this opportunity.

我花了很大力氣來平衡這兩方面，因為在我剛加入谷歌的時候，我告訴自己，我真的很感激這個機會。

But after I started uploading YouTube videos, I gave myself a target.

但在我開始上傳 YouTube 視頻後，我給自己定了一個目標。

I would upload one video every week for two years.

我會在兩年內每週上傳一段視頻。

And the reason for that is because like my then mentor and now friend Ali Abdaal, his basic pitch was, if you upload a video every week for two years, your life will change.

究其原因，是因為就像我當時的導師、現在的朋友阿里-阿布達爾（Ali Abdaal）一樣，他的基本主張是：如果你在兩年內每週上傳一段視頻，你的生活就會改變。

But it was really hard to balance both because basically I didn't have any free time outside of work or on the weekends.

但要兼顧這兩件事真的很難，因為基本上我在工作之外或週末都沒有空閒時間。

That's, I can relate to that because when I launched my course, it was like a 24 seven thing.

這一點我深有體會，因為當我推出我的課程時，它就像一個 24/7 的東西。

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