Name: 湯姆-迪克森談他的設計過去、現在和未來 | Braun | British GQ (Tom Dixon on his design past, present and future | Braun | British GQ)
Uploaded: 2025-05-29T12:39:46.000Z
Duration: 8 min 57 s

The Japanese philosopher Yonagi Suetsu once said make beautiful things, make things to be used, eliminate anything that is unnecessary.

日本哲學家米柳雪曾說過，要製造美麗的東西，製造使用過的東西，消除一切不必要的東西。

How do designers achieve this simplicity of form?

設計師如何實現這種簡潔的形式？

These are some of the questions that I'm going to be discussing with visionary designer Tom Dixon.

這就是我要與富有遠見的設計師湯姆-迪克森（Tom Dixon）討論的一些問題。

Tom Dixon is one of Britain's leading designers, self-taught with an endless curiosity.

湯姆-迪克森（Tom Dixon）是英國頂尖設計師之一，他自學成才，擁有無窮無盡的好奇心。

I'll be finding out just what it is that drives Tom to create.

我想知道湯姆創作的動力到底是什麼。

Tom, what was it that initially drew you to design?

湯姆，最初是什麼吸引你從事設計工作的？

I started making things pretty much for pleasure.

我開始製作東西，幾乎是為了消遣。

People started buying them and at one point people started calling me a designer.

人們開始購買它們，有一次人們開始稱我為設計師。

So the kind of career twists and turns I've had have given me a very different perspective to other designers.

是以，我在職業生涯中的曲折經歷讓我擁有了與其他設計師截然不同的視角。

Like everybody at that time, everybody was in a band so it wasn't an unusual thing, but we did end up being quite popular in London, signing a record contract, going on tour.

和當時的每個人一樣，每個人都在組樂隊，所以這並不稀奇，但我們最終在倫敦很受歡迎，簽了唱片合同，還參加了巡演。

I'd started welding live on stage as a kind of performance art kind of piece.

我開始在舞臺上現場焊接，作為一種行為藝術。

I then subsequently broke my arm in a motorbike crash and couldn't go on tour, but by that time I'd already started making things.

後來，我在一次摩托車事故中摔斷了胳膊，不能去巡演了，但那時我已經開始創作了。

So there was a kind of seamless transition if you like, but precipitated by an accident.

是以，可以說是一種無縫過渡，但這是由一場意外促成的。

So I do like to say I'm a totally accidental designer, but literally.

是以，我喜歡說自己是個完全偶然的設計師，不過是字面上的意思。

It's quite a compelling thing to melt metal and meld it together.

熔化金屬並將其融為一體是一件非常引人注目的事情。

You're watching fire transforming a piece of metal.

你看到的是火在改變一塊金屬。

It's one of those techniques that doesn't require huge amounts of skill, but allows you to make things that are quite strong very fast.

這是一種不需要太多技巧的技術，但卻能讓你很快做出相當結實的東西。

I was immediately struck by how it suited my impatience.

So this is always quite a good example of what happened next really, which is that actually rather than using the scrap metal, I was just making the chair out of the welding rod.

這就是接下來發生的事情的一個很好的例子，事實上，我並沒有使用廢金屬，而是用焊條做了一把椅子。

So somewhere between a visit to the Science Museum and seeing models of bridges and the primitive early computer programs that were triangulating objects, the idea for this chair came.

於是，在一次參觀科學博物館時，我看到了橋樑的模型和原始的早期計算機程序對物體進行三角測量，於是就萌生了製作這把椅子的想法。

I was trying to make the lightest chair in the world in metal.

我試圖用金屬製造世界上最輕的椅子。

How and where do you find inspiration for the things you design?

您是如何以及從哪裡獲得設計靈感的？

It's kind of strangely similar to when I started.

這和我剛開始的時候有點奇怪的相似。

The joy of just creating something that can happen with your hands, or it could be inspired by a tool that you might have just bought, or a visit to a factory.

創作的樂趣可能來自於你的雙手，也可能來自於你剛買的一件工具，或者一次參觀工廠的經歷。

I might get interested in cooking and spend some time in a restaurant here.

我可能會對烹飪感興趣，並在這裡的餐館工作一段時間。

So I'll do a shift once every couple of weeks as a sous-chef, and that will teach me more about food and how restaurants should be designed than anything actually.

是以，我每隔幾周就會去當一次副主廚，這比任何事情都能讓我學到更多關於食物和餐廳設計的知識。

A lot of my time is spent trying to force my designers off the computer and back into the workshop.

我的很多時間都用來強迫我的設計師們離開電腦，回到工作室。

I think it's really important for us to model everything full size and full scale.

我認為，全尺寸和全比例建模對我們來說非常重要。

The process still is, in my view, more akin to sculpture than it is to design, at least from the departure point.

在我看來，至少從出發點來看，這個過程仍然更像雕塑，而不是設計。

You can shortcut a lot with a computer later, but you have to make the models.

以後你可以用電腦縮短很多時間，但你必須製作模型。

Dieter Rams' famous maxim, less but better, is very much one of your guiding principles as well.

Dieter Rams 的著名格言 "少而精 "也是你們的指導原則之一。

Sometimes there's a lot of superfluous, and it gets harder and harder to do something which is reduced and still interesting.

有時會有很多多餘的東西，要做一些既精簡又有趣的事情變得越來越難。

So you have to balance the temptation to add the bells and whistles with trying to produce something which is significantly different to what's out there, and still maintain a kind of purity and a functionality about it.

是以，你必須在誘惑你添加各種功能的同時，努力製作出與現有產品明顯不同的產品，並保持產品的純粹性和功能性。

What qualities would you say make something timeless or iconic?

您認為哪些特質能使事物永恆或具有標誌性？

It's about being the first to do that shape, or improve that function, or just move the conversation on.

我們要做的是，成為第一個做出這種形狀或改進這種功能的人，或者只是把話題引向深入。

If you try and do something that's different from what's happened before, and if you do that, then it has its own little spot in mini history, right?

如果你嘗試做一些與以往不同的事情，如果你做到了，那麼它在迷你歷史上就會有自己的一席之地，對嗎？

I was making myself with my own hands out of scrap metal at the beginning, and then got taken up by a luxury Italian manufacturer, which gave me an international reputation, I guess, and then ended up in the Museum of Modern Art.

一開始，我用廢金屬自己動手製作，後來被一家意大利奢侈品製造商看中，我想，這讓我在國際上聲名鵲起，最後進了現代藝術博物館。

Tom, as I walk through the space, I notice that a lot of your designs are very simple.

湯姆，當我走過這個空間時，我注意到你的很多設計都非常簡單。

What you've done is you've found something beautiful in a very simple narrative.

你所做的就是在一個非常簡單的敘述中發現了美好的東西。

If you can make something simple that people haven't seen before, then you've won, you know, and it's the hardest thing to do.

如果你能做出人們從未見過的簡單東西，那你就贏了，要知道，這是最困難的事情。

What is it about this design language that fascinates you so much?

是什麼讓您對這種設計語言如此著迷？

Well, it's not just my design language, it's kind of the basic building blocks of everything.

這不僅是我的設計語言，也是一切的基本構件。

This is going to be a bit like going back to play school, right?

這有點像回到遊戲學校，對嗎？

But, you know, the shapes that are very satisfying are the basic underpinning shapes, so the cube, you know, the circle or the sphere, the cone.

但是，你知道，令人非常滿意的形狀都是基本的基礎形狀，比如立方體、圓、球體、錐體。

I spend inordinate amounts of time at work stacking things up.

我在工作中花了大量時間堆放東西。

People laugh at often big crashes as all of it topples down, but, you know, trying to find a harmonious new arrangement of these basic shapes is what we actually spend quite a lot of time doing.

人們常常嘲笑大碰撞，因為所有的東西都會倒塌，但是，你知道，試圖為這些基本形狀找到一種和諧的新排列方式，實際上是我們花了很多時間去做的事情。

So, you know, this could easily be a lamp, right?

所以，你知道，這很容易成為一盞燈，對嗎？

But there you've got just your super basic shapes making something more interesting.

不過，這只是把超級基本的形狀變成了更有趣的東西。

Everything I've come across has been so, not only aesthetically pleasing, but also so tactile.

我接觸到的所有東西都是如此，不僅美觀，而且觸感極佳。

They engage with the environment simply and effectively.

他們與環境的互動簡單而有效。

You know, I think tactility is a good one.

你知道，我認為觸覺是一個很好的選擇。

I mean, if people want to pick something up, that's the first step, right?

我的意思是，如果人們想買東西，這是第一步，對嗎？

So you'll see a lot of the things have probably got more fatness and thickness and more material than you'd normally need, but that means that the things have got longevity about them, and I think that's one of the things we're seeking in our designs is to have things that stick around for a long time.

是以，你會看到很多東西可能比你通常需要的更肥更厚，材料也更多，但這意味著這些東西具有長久的生命力，我想這也是我們在設計中追求的目標之一，那就是讓這些東西能夠長久地存在下去。

Interior design became an intrinsic part of what we do.

室內設計已成為我們工作的內在組成部分。

Bigger hotels like the Mondrian are like designing a village.

像蒙德里安酒店這樣的大型酒店就像是在設計一個村莊。

You need to make the things work as a whole unit, but you've also got to consider the journey through a variety of different spaces.

你需要讓這些東西作為一個整體發揮作用，但同時也要考慮通過各種不同空間的旅程。

So it's a very interesting typology to work in.

是以，這是一個非常有趣的工作類型。

酒店在某種程度上是最佳選擇。

What advice would you give to young designers?

You know, I had the luxury of being unknown and anonymous for a really long time and making things at my own pace.

在很長一段時間裡，我都默默無聞，按照自己的節奏創作。

The danger for young designers now is not having time to evolve their own individual aesthetic or their individual ideas.

現在，年輕設計師面臨的危險是沒有時間發展自己的個人審美或個人想法。

Many of the things that I've done, I didn't ever expect to happen, so I'm hoping for a few more surprises, a lot more excitement, and also to surprise the people that like what we do with some unexpected amazingness.

我做過的很多事情都是我始料未及的，所以我希望能有更多的驚喜、更多的刺激，也希望能給喜歡我們工作的人帶來意想不到的驚喜。

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