Name: 聚合 2024 版：數據團隊的下一步是什麼？(與 Scott Breitenother 合著） (Coalesce 2024 edition: What’s next for data teams? (w/ Scott Breitenother))
Uploaded: 2025-04-01T10:50:50.000Z
Duration: 44 min 23 s

Welcome to the Analytics Engineering Podcast, featuring conversations with practitioners inventing the future of analytics engineering.

歡迎收聽分析工程播客，與創造分析工程未來的從業人員進行對話。

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I am sitting here with Scott from Brooklyn Data.

我和布魯克林數據公司的斯科特坐在一起。

Scott, there's a lot of people who listen to this podcast who know who you are already.

斯科特，很多聽這個播客的人已經知道你是誰了。

Take a minute to just say hi and give a little bit of background.

請花一分鐘打個招呼，介紹一下您的背景。

我是布魯克林數據公司的創始人。

We're a data consultancy that works with, let's say, companies all shapes and sizes to help them with their data strategy and then to implement that strategy.

我們是一家數據諮詢公司，與各種規模的公司合作，幫助他們制定數據戰略，然後實施該戰略。

And, you know, one of the tools we work with very often is dbt.

你知道，我們經常使用的工具之一就是DBT。

And I guess personally, I've been involved in the dbt community.

我想，就我個人而言，我一直在參與 dbt 社區的活動。

I've had the pleasure of kind of, you know, knowing Tristan and the dbt gang for ages.

我有幸認識了特里斯坦和DBT一幫人很久了。

And it's just been a pleasure to watch it all grow.

我很高興能見證這一切的成長。

And we're going to talk a lot more about your background.

Before I ask you my first question, I just wanted to do a little behind the scenes.

在問第一個問題之前，我想先介紹一下幕後的情況。

We were both just talking about how our voices are like an octave lower than they normally are and because of the long week.

我們倆都在談論我們的嗓音比平時低了八度，因為這一週太長了。

You and I have had a certain level of like end of conference energy.

你和我都有一定程度的類似會議結束時的能量。

And then I asked you this question, we're on air and you just you just did it.

然後我問了你這個問題，我們正在直播，你就這麼做了。

We haven't had a lot of sleep and I don't know what time zone or date is, but we'll rally.

我們沒怎麼睡覺，也不知道時區和日期，但我們會團結起來的。

So you have some some news to share that I think you've been talking with some some different folks about.

所以，你有一些消息要分享，我想你已經和一些不同的人討論過了。

So I don't think we're going to break this live or anything, but but it is a little bit new information.

是以，我不認為我們會在現場直播或什麼的，但這是一個有點新的資訊。

I started Brooklyn Data in summer of twenty eighteen.

我是在 18 年夏天開始學習布魯克林數據的。

I mean, I think big thanks to, you know, DBT and all the success the DBT community has had and build something really special.

我的意思是，我認為非常感謝 DBT 和 DBT 社區取得的所有成功，並建立了一些非常特別的東西。

And about a year and a half ago, we went to an acquisition we were acquired by Valir, which is an amazing digital agency based out of Boston.

大約一年半以前，我們被 Valir 收購，這是一家位於波士頓的出色的數字代理公司。

And I couldn't have asked for a better home for Brooklyn Data.

布魯克林數據中心是我夢寐以求的家園。

And for the last year and a half, I've been working hard on integrating and making kind of any acquisition is like a marriage.

在過去的一年半里，我一直在努力進行整合，使任何收購都像一場婚姻。

And I feel like I can do a whole podcast on just kind of integrations and acquisitions and everything I've learned.

我覺得我可以做一整期播客，介紹整合和收購以及我學到的一切。

But the story is the integration has gone great.

但事實是，整合工作進展順利。

And as of kind of the end of this month, October, I'm going to be stepping back from the day to day.

到本月底，也就是十月份，我將從日常工作中抽身出來。

So I'll still be a board member of Valir and Brooklyn Data.

是以，我仍將是 Valir 和布魯克林數據公司的董事會成員。

I'm going to be involved in the strategy, big picture, all that kind of fun stuff, but kind of won't be doing any more hands on keyboard and not quite sure what's next.

我將參與戰略、大局觀等所有有趣的工作，但不會再親自動手敲鍵盤了，也不太確定下一步該怎麼做。

I mean, you know, my last day is, you know, end of October and the next day after that, I literally do not have a plan.

我的意思是，你知道，我的最後一天是十月底，之後的第二天，我真的沒有計劃。

So I feel like I'm going to have to ask Tristan for some help on coming up with hobbies.

所以我覺得我得請特里斯坦幫我想一些興趣愛好了。

Yeah, I maybe I can help you just a tiny bit, but I'm not great at hobbies.

是的，我也許能幫你一點點，但我不擅長興趣愛好。

I don't remember the details of this, but when when you were at Casper, obviously, and I want to hear the whole history, but you were very involved in DBT and the DBT community, and then you started Brooklyn Data and and we kept in close touch.

我不記得其中的細節了，但當你在卡斯帕工作時，很明顯，我想聽聽整個歷史，但你非常投入 DBT 和 DBT 社區，然後你創辦了布魯克林數據公司，我們保持著密切聯繫。

At first, I was like, oh, like what's going to happen to DBT at Casper?

起初，我想，卡斯帕的 DBT 會怎麼樣？

But that actually turned out to be totally fine.

但結果證明，這其實完全沒問題。

But then I was like, OK, this is interesting.

但後來我想，好吧，這很有趣。

At the time we were Fishtown Analytics, we were and you, a longtime friend and supporter, were now a competitor because, you know, you were also a professional services company.

在我們還是 Fishtown Analytics 的時候，我們和你是多年的朋友和支持者，現在卻成了競爭對手，因為你知道，你也是一家專業服務公司。

But, you know, there's like this bond between the different people doing this very hard thing.

但是，你知道的，不同的人在做這件非常艱難的事情時，就像有一種紐帶一樣。

就這樣，我們一直保持著聯繫。

And I seem to remember in the early days asking you, like how you were managing to be a husband, a new father and the start like the what did I say?

我似乎還記得，在最初的日子裡，我曾問過你，你是如何處理好丈夫和新父親的關係的，以及開始的時候我說了什麼？

And well, and your answer was something like, I just don't sleep a lot.

And you said it a little bit with like crazed look in your eyes.

你說這話的時候，眼神有點瘋狂。

Can you talk about like, what did it take to get this thing off the ground?

你能談談，是什麼讓這件事得以啟動的嗎？

Yeah, I think the answer is I didn't sleep a lot.

是的，我想答案是我睡得不多。

You hear the saying like it doesn't work if you love what you're doing.

你聽過這樣一句話，"如果你熱愛你所做的事情，那就不會有任何效果"。

I mean, the reason I have to find a hobby is because building Brooklyn Data has been a hobby.

我的意思是，我之所以要找一個愛好，是因為建立布魯克林數據公司一直是我的愛好。

It's been, you know, any free processor time I had on my mental CPU, I was thinking about new and innovative ways in Brooklyn Data, not because I was on the clock, not because I had to, but because I loved it.

你知道，在我的大腦 CPU 上的任何空閒處理器時間，我都在思考布魯克林數據的創新方法，不是因為我在上班，不是因為我必須這樣做，而是因為我喜歡這樣做。

We met when you were kind of, you know, working with us at Casper and helping us set up DBT.

我們是在你和我們一起在卡斯帕工作，幫助我們建立 DBT 的時候認識的。

And I felt kind of very privileged to be in the know on something that's like DBT.

能夠了解類似 DBT 的知識，我感到非常榮幸。

And I told all my friends not because, you know, there was anything in it for me or I thought I'd start a business in it because DBT was awesome.

我告訴我所有的朋友，並不是因為，你知道，這對我有什麼好處，也不是因為我想在其中創業，因為 DBT 棒極了。

It was changing my life, changing my team's life and changing, you know, the data scene, especially in the New York data scene.

它改變了我的生活，改變了我團隊的生活，也改變了數據領域，尤其是紐約的數據領域。

And so, you know, we had a lot of people asking us for advice because I think at that point we had probably one of the more sophisticated DBT setups back in, you know, 2017, 2018.

是以，你知道，我們有很多人向我們尋求建議，因為我認為，在 2017 年、2018 年時，我們的 DBT 設置可能是更復雜的 DBT 設置之一。

You'd already gone through some refactoring efforts then.

那時你已經進行了一些重構工作。

I remember the first time you had the DAG visualization.

我還記得你第一次將 DAG 可視化的情景。

And we were kind of you had to manually run it for us and it shook like it was like this.

我們不得不手動運行它，搖晃起來就像這樣。

Before you could visualize the DAG, you just kind of built whatever.

在可視化 DAG 之前，你只能隨心所欲地構建 DAG。

And then all of a sudden you could see it.

然後突然間，你就能看到它了。

Then someone put some ice and you're like, oh, my God.

然後有人放了些冰塊，你就會想，天哪。

But yeah, then some people would ask me for questions and advice.

不過，也有人會向我請教問題和建議。

And I think there was a point where like, hey, I think there's a business here.

我覺得有一點像，嘿，我覺得這裡有一門生意。

I think everyone, you know, very smart people are working on very cool pieces of software, DBT, Snowflake, you know, Looker at that time.

我認為每個人，你知道的，非常聰明的人都在開發非常酷的軟件，DBT、Snowflake，你知道的，當時的 Looker。

But, you know, there was a gap in professional services, people that could guide companies on this journey to get the most out of these tools.

但是，在專業服務方面存在差距，沒有人能夠指導公司充分利用這些工具。

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