Name: 眾議院關門進入「新立法領域」！議長強生拒參院協議 (DHS shutdown enters 'new legislative territory' after Speaker Johnson rejects Senate deal)
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情態副詞

But we do have to begin with the breaking news on the partial government shutdown, with President Trump now trying to bypass Congress and unilaterally fund TSA as Congressional Gridlock threatens to extend the shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security and the historic travel chaos at airports all across the country.

不過，我們還是要先來關注這則政府局部停擺的重大新聞，川普總統現在試圖繞過國會，單方面地資助交通安全局，因為國會僵局可能會讓國土安全部的停擺以及全國各地機場的歷史性旅行混亂持續下去。

情態助動詞 B1

The president officially delivering that order after Speaker Mike Johnson rejected a deal that Senate Republicans passed overnight with Democratic support that would have funded the TSA and most of DHS, but

總統在議長麥克·約翰遜拒絕了一項參議院共和黨人連夜通過、並獲得民主黨支持的協議後，正式發布了這項命令，該協議將資助交通安全局和國土安全部的大部分部門，但

不包括美國移民及海關執法局或邊境巡邏隊。

Speaker Johnson instead is going to have the House vote to fund all of DHS for 60 days, including ICE and Border Patrol.

議長約翰遜反而將讓眾議院投票，為包括美國移民及海關執法局和邊境巡邏隊在內的整個國土安全部提供60天的資助。

The move essentially ensures more Gridlock, but Speaker Johnson telling reporters his plan has the president's support.

此舉實際上確保了更多的僵局，但議長約翰遜告訴記者，他的計畫得到了總統的支持。

This gambit that was done last night is a joke.

這個昨晚採取的策略真是個笑話。

We're going to put a clean, simple, continuing resolution that will go until May 22nd.

我們將提出一個簡單明瞭的持續決議案，直到5月22日。

It's just a number of weeks to allow for all those who sacrificially served the country and protect other Americans.

這只是幾週的時間，讓所有為國家犧牲奉獻地服務並保護其他美國人的人能夠得到保障。

All these agencies, 10 agencies under the Department of Homeland Security, will continue at their current funding levels to make sure that they are protected.

國土安全部下的所有這些機構，共10個機構，將繼續維持目前的資助水準，以確保他們得到保護。

We're not playing political games on this.

我們不會在這件事上玩政治遊戲。

We encourage some of our Democrats—hopefully we'll have some of our Democrats in the House—who go along with this and stop the pain that's being forced upon these people.

我們鼓勵一些民主黨人——希望眾議院裡也能有一些民主黨人——支持這項決議，停止強加在這些人身上的痛苦。

I spoke to the president a few moments ago.

He understands exactly what we're doing and why, and he supports it.

他完全瞭解我們在做什麼以及為什麼，而且他支持。

Now, the speaker's pitch comes after House Conservatives expressed outrage over the Senate deal.

現在，議長提出這個方案，是在眾議院保守派對參議院的協議表達憤怒之後。

Again, it's absolutely offensive to the people that we represent that the Senate would send over a bill that doesn't fund Border Patrol and the core components of ICE.

再說一次，參議院送來一份沒有資助邊境巡邏隊和美國移民及海關執法局核心部門的法案，這對我們所代表的人民來說真是太冒犯了。

I mean, could the Senate be any more lazy than to send to us a bill that doesn't do the job and then leave town?

說真的，參議院有沒有更懶惰的？送來一份沒做事的法案然後就拍拍屁股走人？

So we're going to stand up and say no to that.

Bottom line is this is not a—this deal is bad for America.

總之，這不是——這項協議對美國不利。

The president has already said he's going to fund TSA out of the funds he has, so we're going to—it's not going to affect the airports if we don't do this today.

總統已經說過，他會動用現有資金來資助交通安全局，所以我們——如果我們今天不這麼做，機場不會受到影響。

Democratic leadership says they will not support the House's new plan, calling it dead on arrival in the Senate.

民主黨領導層表示，他們不會支持眾議院的新計畫，並稱該計畫在參議院將「胎死腹中」。

It comes as frustration and long lines persist at the nation's airports, with the rate of TSA officer callouts reaching its highest point of the shutdown yesterday, surpassing 30% at five major airports.

這是在全國機場持續出現沮喪和長隊的背景下發生的，交通安全局官員的請假率昨天達到了政府停擺以來的最高點，在五個主要機場超過了30%。

Joining me now is our NBC News team chief Capitol Hill correspondent Ryan Nobles, White House correspondent Monica Alba, senior Homeland Security correspondent Julia Ainsley, and

現在加入我們的是NBC新聞團隊的國會山首席記者Ryan Nobles、白宮記者Monica Alba、國土安全資深記者Julia Ainsley，以及

national correspondent Aaron Gilchrist is on the ground in Atlanta at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.

國家記者Aaron Gilchrist，他正在亞特蘭大哈茲菲爾德-傑克遜國際機場現場報導。

Thanks to all of you for starting us off on this developing story.

謝謝大家為我們開始報導這個正在發展中的新聞。

Ryan, we just heard a defiant Speaker Johnson saying House Republicans are going to reject the deal the Senate unanimously passed last night.

Ryan，我們剛聽到議長強森強硬地表示，眾議院共和黨人將拒絕參議院昨晚一致通過的協議。

Take us inside Johnson's thinking and the pressure that he's getting from the House Freedom Caucus.

請帶我們瞭解強森的想法以及他從眾議院自由黨團那裡承受的壓力。

Well, we've entered new legislative territory here, Kristen,

嗯，克莉絲汀，我們現在進入了新的立法領域，

and I'm not sure exactly how we get out of it.

我不太確定我們到底要怎麼脫離這個困境。

I think what we've seen established here between the House and Senate is that there isn't a piece of legislation that could get the 60 votes in the Senate necessary to open the Department of Homeland Security,

我想我們在眾議院和參議院之間建立的現狀是，沒有任何一項法案能夠獲得參議院所需的60票來重新開放國土安全部，

and we could be in a ping-pong battle between the House and the Senate for an indefinite amount of time.

我們可能會在眾議院和參議院之間無限期地來回拉鋸。

John Thune and Mike Johnson spoke last night at 3:00 AM when the Senate decided to take this route of passing the majority of the Department of Homeland Security budget save for Customs and Border Patrol and ICE.

約翰·圖恩和麥克·約翰遜昨晚凌晨三點談話，當時參議院決定採取這個方式，通過了大部分國土安全部的預算，但海關及邊境巡邏隊和移民及海關執法局除外。

Something happened this morning when Mike Johnson came into this chamber and had conversations with his conservative rank and file that made him think that it was a no-go, that they weren't going to get it done.

今天早上，麥克·約翰遜進入議事廳與他的保守派黨員們談話後，發生了一些事情，讓他覺得這行不通，他們無法完成。

But every time you talk to either a Republican or Democrat about this, they blame the other side.

但每次你和共和黨人或民主黨人談論此事時，他們都會指責對方。

They say the other side is at fault here,

and at some point, someone's going to have to stand up and present some leadership to try and find a way out of this.

總有一天，必須有人站出來展現領導力，試圖找到解決之道。

And I asked Speaker Johnson about that today, and this is his response.

我今天問了議長約翰遜關於這件事，這是他的回應。

The American people are just sick and tired of every one of you, both Republicans and Democrats, coming to this podium and blaming the other side.

美國人民真的受夠了你們這些共和黨人和民主黨人，每次都站到這個講臺，互相指責。

People have been standing in lines three, four, five hours at a time.

人們排隊等候，一次就要三、四、五個小時。

There are TSA workers that are selling their plasma.

有些交通安全局的員工在賣血漿。

At what point is a leader on either side going to stand up and say, "We have a path forward that everyone will agree to?" This vote today will extend the shutdown under any circumstances.

到底什麼時候，兩邊的領導人才能站出來說：「我們有一條大家都同意的前進之路？」這次的投票，無論如何都會延長政府停擺。

The House Republicans have now voted that today will be the fourth time to fund the Homeland Security.

眾議院的共和黨人這次投票，是第四次要資助國土安全部了。

You can hold up the record, look at the Democrats.

你可以看看民主黨那邊的紀錄。

Last night, yesterday afternoon, we gave them a chance to fund Homeland Security.

昨天晚上、昨天下午，我們給了他們一次資助國土安全部的機會。

You know how many House Democrats voted yes?

你知道有多少眾議院的民主黨人投了贊成票嗎？

So the sum total of all of this, Kristen, is that this shutdown is going to continue.

所以，克莉絲汀，這一切的總結就是，政府停擺會持續下去。

I spoke to a gentleman who was in line at an airport in Houston to fly to Dallas.

我跟一位在休士頓機場排隊要飛往達拉斯的先生聊過。

He actually had to take a train to get to the end of the security line.

他其實得搭火車才能到安檢隊伍的盡頭。

When he got there, the folks in line told him it was at least a four-hour wait.

他到那裡的時候，排隊的人告訴他至少要等四個小時。

It was easier for him just to drive to Dallas as opposed to wait in that line.

與其在那裡排隊，他乾脆開車去達拉斯還比較輕鬆。

There are stories like that all over the country.

Obviously, these TSA officers are being forced to make difficult choices.

顯然，這些交通安全局的官員們被迫做出艱難的決定。

And the one other point I would make about this, Kristen, is yes, the president's emergency executive order could get money in the paychecks of TSA officers as soon as Monday.

克莉絲汀，我還想補充一點，是的，總統的緊急行政命令最快週一就能讓交通安全局官員們收到薪水。

But what about FEMA, frontline FEMA workers?

但第一線的聯邦緊急事務管理局（FEMA）人員呢？

What about folks that work in cybersecurity?

那些從事網路安全工作的人員呢？

What about the resources that are necessary for the Coast Guard?

海岸防衛隊所需的資源又如何？

All of that funding still remains up in the air,

and here on Capitol Hill, there is no solution to get us to the point where all of that can be rectified.

而在國會山這裡，卻沒有任何解決方案能讓我們達到能補救這一切的階段。

And Ryan, I think your question to Speaker Johnson was so poignant and right on target.

而 Ryan，我認為你問議長麥克·約翰遜的問題非常一針見血，切中要害。

Americans are outraged by the finger-pointing.

美國民眾對這種互相推卸責任的行為感到非常憤怒。

They had a number of demands on ICE reforms that they wanted in that Senate bill.

他們對美國移民及海關執法局（ICE）的改革提出了一系列要求，並希望納入參議院的法案中。

They did get Republicans in the Senate to agree to pass a bill that did not include ICE funding.

他們確實讓參議院的共和黨人同意通過了一項不包含 ICE 資金的法案。

Do they feel like they're winning this issue or losing because they didn't get the changes that they wanted to see?

他們是覺得自己在贏得這個議題，還是因為沒有得到他們想要的改變而覺得在輸呢？

I think that the outcome that we saw last night in the Senate was the outcome that Democrats were looking for very early on in this process.

我認為我們昨晚在參議院看到的結果，正是民主黨在這個過程中很早就期望的結果。

They had offered a bill very similar to this, which removed all of the funding for ICE and CBP and funded the rest of the Department of Homeland Security to give the opportunity to negotiate these issues going down the road.

他們曾提出過一個與此非常相似的法案，該法案移除了所有對 ICE 和 CBP 的資金，並資助了國土安全部的其餘部門，以便有機會在未來協商這些問題。

But Democrats also need a bit of a reality check here.

不過民主黨在這裡也需要一點現實的檢視。

The Republicans are not going to bend on some of these things that they're begging for, masks in particular.

共和黨人不會在某些他們極力爭取的項目上讓步，尤其是口罩。

That is a red line that Republicans have said that they're not going to cross.

這是共和黨人說過他們不會跨越的一條紅線。

And there have been changes that Democrats have gained through this process.

而且民主黨在這個過程中確實獲得了一些改變。

Christine Ohm is no longer the Secretary of Homeland Security.

克莉絲汀·歐姆不再是國土安全部部長了。

They've ended, for the most part, these roving patrols in places like Minneapolis.

他們在大部分情況下，結束了像明尼阿波利斯這樣的地區的巡邏。

There is a commitment to TSA or ICE officers wearing body cams in the near future.

在不久的將來，交通安全局或美國移民及海關執法局的官員將會配戴隨身攝影機。

So it's not as if nothing came out of this back and forth.

所以並不是說這場來回協商毫無結果。

So that's why, again, I get back to this idea of leaders on both sides need to recognize the reality of where we are in, how angry and upset the American people are,

這就是為什麼，我再次回到這個想法，雙方的領導人都需要認識到我們目前的現實，以及美國人民有多麼生氣和沮喪，

and find a path to a solution, which just still seems to be impossible to find.

並且找到解決之道，但這似乎還是不可能找到。

Well, great job on holding their feet to the fire on Capitol Hill, Ryan Nobles.

做得好，瑞安·諾布爾斯，你們在國會山莊緊盯著他們。

Thank you so much for joining us as we enter yet another weekend with this shutdown ongoing.

非常感謝你加入我們，又一個週末政府停擺仍在持續。

Monica Alba, I turn to you at the White House.

莫妮卡·阿爾巴，我來問妳白宮這邊的情況。

So the president, for his part, has now issued basically a presidential memorandum that would unilaterally fund TSA.

所以總統方面，他現在已經發布了一份總統備忘錄，將單方面地資助交通安全局。

This comes after he spoke to House Speaker Mike Johnson.

這是在他與眾議院議長麥克·約翰遜談話之後。

Johnson says he would, in fact, support the short-term CR.

約翰遜表示他實際上會支持短期持續決議案。

妳在那邊聽到了什麼，莫妮卡？

Yeah, Kristen, the president kind of previewed this yesterday in that cabinet meeting saying that if Congress couldn't come up with some kind of deal, that the White House would take some "drastic measures." They discussed a number of ideas,

是的，克莉絲汀，總統昨天在內閣會議上就預告了這件事，他說如果國會無法達成協議，白宮將採取一些「激烈措施」。他們討論了好幾個想法，

and this was one of them, which is basically to take the unspent funds that still exist within the so-called One Big Beautiful bill, which passed last year, and

而這就是其中之一，也就是利用去年通過的所謂「One Big Beautiful bill」中尚未動用的資金，