Name: 馬杜羅被捕後我去了委內瑞拉，揭露當地真實狀況 | Rare Access (I travelled Venezuela after Maduro’s capture - here’s what’s really happening | Rare Access)
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We're just walking up to the viewpoint to have a look at the bay of all the fishing boats here.

我們正走到觀景點，看看這裡停滿漁船的海灣。

What they've given us to read is a presidential magazine: "Mor Maduro, Mor Maduro." He's on every single page.

他們給我們看的是一本總統雜誌：「Mor Maduro, Mor Maduro」。每一頁都是他。

I'm Ione Wells, I'm the BBC's South America correspondent.

我是 Ione Wells，BBC 的南美洲特派記者。

I've been granted a rare 12-day visa to report from inside the country.

我獲得了難得的十二天簽證，可以在國內進行報導。

It's the first time I've been here in nearly two years.

這是我將近兩年來第一次來到這裡。

It's also the first time I've been here since the U.S.

strikes on Venezuela on the 3rd of January, when the U.S. seized its president Nicolás Maduro.

一月三日對委內瑞拉發動攻擊、並扣押總統 Nicolás Maduro 以來，我第一次來到這裡。

They took him to the U.S. to face drugs and weapons conspiracy charges, which he denies.

他們將他帶到美國，面對他否認的毒品和武器陰謀指控。

我現在人在委內瑞拉的首都加拉加斯。

This is the first time that I've been here in about two years.

They are now granting these rare journalist visas from time to time, so this is really my chance to report on this country: what's changed, what people want now, if there are hopes for a transition, new elections.

他們現在會不定期地發放這種難得的記者簽證，所以這真的是我報導這個國家的機會：有什麼改變了，人們現在想要什麼，有沒有轉型的希望，新的選舉。

You can see I'm just packing because while I am in Caracas now, my plan is tomorrow to go to a different state in Venezuela called Sucre.

你可以看到我正在打包，因為雖然我現在在加拉加斯，但我的計畫是明天要去委內瑞拉另一個叫做蘇克雷的州。

This is one of the poorest states in Venezuela, and the U.S.

這是委內瑞拉最貧窮的州之一，而美國

is now promising all these big oil-mineral mining deals.

現在正承諾所有這些大型石油礦產開採交易。

But I'm interested to know if this trickles down to ordinary people, if people think their lives are going to get better.

但我很有興趣知道這是否會惠及普通民眾，人們是否認為他們的生活會變得更好。

we're just driving to the airport now to fly to Cúmena on the coast in Sucre.

我們正開車去機場，準備飛往蘇克雷沿海的庫馬納。

The city here in Caracas is still plastered with these billboards of Nicolás Maduro and his wife with the hashtag #LosCoremosDeVuelta, essentially.

加拉加斯的這座城市仍然貼滿了尼古拉斯·馬杜羅和他妻子的廣告看板，上面寫著 #LosCoremosDeVuelta 的標籤，大致意思是。

Just arrived at the domestic airport terminal now, so probably won't be able to film inside the airport.

現在剛到國內航廈，所以機場裡面應該不能拍了。

I'm on the plane now heading to Cúmena, and

我現在在飛機上，正飛往庫馬納，

what they've given us to read is a presidential magazine, picture of Nicolás Maduro on the front.

隨手拿了本總統雜誌來看，封面是尼古拉斯·馬杜羅的照片。

Quite a lot of pro-government articles by the looks of it: "Mor Maduro, Mor Maduro." So we've just landed in Sucre, which is one of the poorest states in Venezuela.

看起來有很多支持政府的文章：「Mor Maduro, Mor Maduro。」所以我們剛抵達蘇克雷，這是委內瑞拉最貧窮的州之一。

It struggles with shortages of fuel, of water.

這裡面臨燃料和水的短缺問題。

Here up ahead is a queue for people to fill up their tanks with fuel.

前面這裡有人在排隊為汽車加滿油。

Queues like this happen every single day in the state, and

這種排隊情況在該州每天都會發生，

on both sides you can see it stretching all the way down the road.

兩邊都看得到隊伍綿延整條路。

We've just stopped at the side of the road here in Sucre, and

there's a lot of people here waiting to pick up big gas canisters.

而且這裡有好多人正在排隊等著領取大桶的汽油。

A woman here said that it's only once per month that they get these deliveries, so it's important that people stock up while they can.

這位女士說，他們每個月只能收到一次這種補給，所以大家能補給的時候就得趕快補給。

We're just walking up to the viewpoint to have a look at the bay of all the fishing boats here in Huaca.

我們正走上觀景點，看看瓦卡這裡海灣停了多少漁船。

It's going to be quite a hot climb up here.

¿Cuántos barcos, más o menos, en Huaca?

About 100 boats or so here, he said, in the bay.

他說，這裡海灣大概有 100 艘船左右。

Fishmen here have been explaining how difficult life is because of the cost of fuel, which they need for their boats.

這裡的漁民一直在解釋，因為需要用在船上的燃料成本很高，生活有多麼困難。

One said that a litre is now $2, which on wages here is incredibly expensive.

有一位說，一公升現在要 2 美元，以這裡的薪資來說，這真的非常貴。

Somewhere out to sea there in the peninsula is a site that the oil company Shell is going to develop into a huge new gas project.

在海上的某個地方，半島上有個地方，石油公司 Shell 將會開發成一個巨大的新天然氣計畫。

and Venezuelan government, giving them the green light to go ahead.

和委內瑞拉政府簽訂了一項協議，讓他們可以順利進行。

And I'm interested to speak to people here in the town of Huaca about whether they think that that will make a difference to the economy here, make a difference to people's lives, given that it's an area that suffers with really high levels of poverty.

我很有興趣跟瓦卡鎮這裡的人聊聊，他們認為這會不會對這裡的經濟、對人們的生活帶來改變，因為這個地區飽受非常嚴重的貧困之苦。

By the coast, I got chatting to a fisherman called Pablo Marín.

在海岸邊，我跟一位名叫 Pablo Marín 的漁夫聊了起來。

Here, not a single penny of foreign currency reaches us.

這裡，我們收不到一毛錢的外匯。

In another country, in Ecuador, a family could make $500 catching 100 kilograms of fish, pay for fuel, and

在另一個國家，厄瓜多，一個家庭可以賺到 500 美元，捕撈 100 公斤的魚，支付燃料費，

Here, if you catch 100 kilograms of fish, you have to find another 100 to cover your expenses, so you are left with nothing.

在這裡，如果你捕了 100 公斤的魚，你還得再捕 100 公斤才能支付開銷，所以你什麼都剩不下。

Now you're paid in cash, and it's worth nothing.

現在你拿到的現金，已經一文不值了。

This town, Hueria, has been hugely impacted by the U.S. strikes on alleged small drug trafficking vessels.

這個鎮，Hueria，受到了美國對所謂的小型毒品運輸船襲擊的嚴重影響。

The strikes in total have now killed more than 150 people.

總計，這次襲擊已經造成超過 150 人死亡。

Washington says that narco-terrorists are on board, but

華盛頓方面表示，船上有毒梟恐怖分子，

locals here say that some of those on board were fishermen, were poor labourers in desperate need of money, hired to do these small jobs, even though they're not part of cartel hierarchies.

但當地人說，船上有些人是漁夫，是急需用錢的貧窮勞工，被僱來做這些小工作，即使他們不是販毒集團的成員。

I'm on the way now to meet the family of one of the men who was killed in a strike in October.

我現在正要去見一位在十月份的襲擊中喪生男子的家人。

her husband Luis was one of the people allegedly killed in a strike in October last year.

她的丈夫 Luis 就是去年十月據稱在襲擊中喪生的人之一。

The U.S. still hasn't provided any evidence for the strikes or names of those on board.

美國至今仍未提供任何關於襲擊的證據，或船上人員的名單。

It's too hard because he was the breadwinner.

這真的太難了，因為他是一家之主。

He would go out, bring home the food, the children's things.

他會出去工作，帶回食物，還有孩子們的東西。

The children have heard humours, but they don't accept them.

孩子們聽到了傳聞，但他們不接受。

They were convinced their dad was coming back.

At school, the kids were telling my daughter that her dad was killed in a boat or that he was blown up.

在學校，孩子們告訴我女兒，她的爸爸在船上被殺了，或是被炸死了。

They were in denial about it, saying, "My dad is coming back." But what proof is there from the U.S.

他們對此感到否認，說：「我爸爸會回來的。」但美國有什麼證據

Arrest them, check if they are carrying anything, but don't take their lives.

逮捕他們，檢查他們是否攜帶任何東西，但不要奪走他們的生命。

I also went to meet the brother of another man allegedly killed in a strike in October, who wanted to remain anonymous.

我也去見了另一位據稱在十月罷工中喪生的男子的兄弟，他希望保持匿名。

What a fisherman doesn't give him enough to repair an engine, that's why they get involved in that.

漁夫賺的錢不夠修理引擎，這就是他們會涉入其中的原因。

但並不是他們全職在做這件事。

我們現在來到庫馬納這個城市，

this town is suffering from an extreme water crisis at the moment.

而這個城鎮目前正遭受嚴重的缺水危機。

People have been without water for about two weeks, and

so there's just nothing coming out of the taps at all, nothing to drink, to wash, for sanitation.

所以水龍頭完全沒有水出來，沒有水喝、沒有水洗澡、沒有水做清潔。

We've just actually tried finding public bathrooms that are open in a mall and restaurants, and

我們剛才試著在購物中心和餐廳找還有開放的公共廁所，

all of them are closed because there's just no running water.

結果全都關閉了，因為根本沒有自來水。

Here, people are waiting to fill up buckets from the existing water supply that there is here in Cúmena, but

在這裡，人們正等著從庫馬納現有的水源取水裝滿水桶，

Most houses are without running water for sanitation, for washing, for drinking, and

大多數的房子都沒有自來水可用於衛生、洗衣和飲用，

We've just arrived at a little café on the side of the road by a beach, and

我們剛到海邊路邊的一家小咖啡館，

the guy's very desperately trying to convince us to eat here and eat his fish that he's just proudly showed us.

老闆正非常懇切地想說服我們在這裡用餐，吃他剛才驕傲展示給我們看的魚。

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