Name: 佛州陽光海岸的英語學習之旅！與 Angel Rios 一同探索佛羅裡達州立大學的學術與社群生活！ (Learning English in the Sunshine State: Academics and Community at Florida State With Angel Rios)
Uploaded: 2026-01-14T17:41:53.000Z
Duration: 18 min 18 s

Welcome back to another episode of Breaking Boundaries, the world's premier podcast for international students.

歡迎回到「打破界線」的最新一集，這是世界上頂尖的國際學生播客。

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或者至少你可以在某個地方找到它。

I have the distinct privilege today of being joined by Dr.

今天我非常榮幸能邀請到來自佛羅裡達州立大學密集英語研究中心的 Angel Rios 博士。

Angel Rios of Florida State's center for intensive English studies.

Rios 博士，非常感謝您今天加入我們。

Dr. Rios, so grateful that you joined us today.

現在，我想先問一個問題，不是關於這個計畫，而是

Now, I wanted to open with a question, not about the program, but

關於您的背景，因為我覺得非常有趣。

about your background, because I think it's fascinating.

You taught high school French for a long time.

你教了很長一段時間的高中法文。

You also speak passable Italian, and You have a PhD in foreign language teaching.

你也會說還不錯的義大利文，而且你擁有外語教學的博士學位。

But I want to focus on your own French and Italian.

但我想聚焦在你自己的法文和義大利文上。

What lessons have you derived from learning those foreign languages that you translate to the English language classroom today?

你從學習這些外語中學到了什麼，並將這些經驗應用到今天的英語教室裡呢？

When I first moved to the United States, I did not speak English, so I had to learn English at the high school level.

我剛搬到美國的時候，我不會講英文，所以我必須從高中程度開始學英文。

And I was told accidentally that to meet the foreign language requirement for the.

然後有人意外地告訴我，為了滿足高中的外語學分要求。

For the high school, I could not take Spanish for Spanish speakers.

高中，我不能選西班牙語給說西班牙語的人。

And I'm like, I'm barely trying to learn English and you want me to add on another language?

我心想，我才剛在努力學英文，你還要我再多學一種語言嗎？

About five weeks into the semester, the counselor calls me back and says, I don't know who told you this.

學期大概進行了五週，輔導員把我叫回去，然後說，我不知道是誰告訴你的。

你其實，你是 ESL（非英語系學生）。

You're not supposed to be doing two languages at once.

We can put you in a Spanish for Spanish speakers to meet the foreign language requirement.

我們可以讓你選西班牙語（給說西班牙語的人）來符合外語學分要求。

By that time, I had fallen in love with my French teacher, with her techniques, with her approach and with the language.

那時候，我已經愛上我的法文老師，愛上她的教學技巧、她的方法，還有這門語言。

I said, I'm going to figure out how to do two languages at once, but I will.

我說，我會想辦法同時學兩種語言，而且我會做到。

And that really initiated my love for languages and the passion for education and then being able to combine both.

這也真正開啟了我對語言的熱愛，以及對教育的熱情，然後能夠將兩者結合。

So my experience with learning French, I feel, shaped me as a professor and my approach in teaching languages.

所以，我學習法文的經驗，我覺得，塑造了我成為一位教授，以及我教學語言的方法。

My experience with learning English was so horrible that it reminds me of what I should not do as a professor, because the ESL programs, at least in the state of Florida, they need a lot of improvement, are not very successful or efficient.

我學習英文的經驗非常糟糕，讓我想起身為教授我不該做些什麼，因為那些 ESL 課程，至少在佛羅裡達州，它們需要很多改進，不是非常成功或有效率。

And so it's sort of like that sink or swim approach where you've got some actual English instruction, but

所以這有點像是那種「要嘛成功，要嘛失敗」的方法，你會有實際的英文教學，但是

then you're also in regular English classes, and

And so that part for me was very difficult.

所以對我來說，那部分真的非常困難。

But learning French, on the other hand, from the style that that teacher had was enjoyable.

但反過來說，從那位老師的教學風格學法文，卻很有趣。

And it really helped balance so that I was able to get the negative and the positive, and

而且它真的幫助我平衡，讓我可以同時吸收負面和正面的東西，而且

它幫助我塑造了自己成為一位。

For those listening, there are plenty of French words that are plopped into the English language.

聽眾朋友，其實有很多法文單字都融入了英文裡。

For example, we have chauffeurs and concierges.

例如，我們有 chauffeurs 和 concierges。

But generally speaking, the languages are very different.

不過總體來說，這兩種語言差異很大。

And it's fascinating that you learned both simultaneously.

而且你同時學會了這兩種語言，這真的很有趣。

And one was something of a joy and the other was a drag, if it's fair to say.

而且其中一個讓你覺得很開心，另一個則讓你覺得很痛苦，如果可以這麼說的話。

English was the necessity because I had just moved to the United States, so it was kind of like the one I wasn't enjoying was the one that was not optional.

英文之所以必要，是因為我剛搬到美國，所以那種我不喜歡的語言反而是非學不可的。

As an aside, did you move here from Puerto Rico?

順帶一提，你是從波多黎各搬來的嗎？

My family and I moved from Puerto Rico kind of just in search of better opportunities for us kids.

我跟家人從波多黎各搬過來，主要是為了給我們小孩尋找更好的機會。

My parents wanted to be able to provide for us, but none of us spoke the language.

我爸媽希望能夠養活我們，但我們誰都不會說英文。

So the entire family started from zero with learning English.

所以全家人都從零開始學英文。

And both my parents have master's degrees.

My mom was a registered nurse, head of the entire northwest coast of Puerto Rico.

我媽是位註冊護士，管轄波多黎各整個西北海岸。

All the hospitals were under her command, and

she came to the US to not be allowed to practice.

My dad went from being a college professor and high school principal, also with a master's degree, to cleaning bathrooms during the graveyard shift at a hotel.

我爸從大學教授兼高中校長，同樣擁有碩士學位，變成在旅館上大夜班打掃廁所。

And that's how our first few years in this country started for us.

這就是我們剛來這個國家時頭幾年的生活。

I have a good friend from Nigeria who was an attorney in Nigeria and moved to the States, and

我有一位很棒的朋友來自奈及利亞，她在奈及利亞是位律師，搬到美國後，

she had to work as a parking garage attendant while going to law school to gain her credentials anew.

她必須在旅館打工，同時去唸法律學校重新取得執照。

So it's quite an adventure, and it makes perfect sense why you are where you are.

所以這真是一場冒險，也完全能理解你現在的處境。

So let's talk a little bit about the center for Intensive English Studies at Florida State.

那我們來聊聊佛羅裡達州立大學的密集英語研究中心。

Tell me a little bit more about the program and the students you serve.

可以多跟我說說這個計畫以及你們服務的學生嗎？

So the center for Intensive English Studies was a result of a research project at FSU was trying to conduct in order to attract more international students, not just to the university, but

所以密集英語研究中心是佛羅裡達州立大學一項研究計畫的成果，當時他們試圖透過這項計畫來吸引更多國際學生，不只是來大學，

We are a program that is in charge of receiving any international student who wants to do a Bachelor's, Master's, or PhD in the United States, but

我們是一個負責接待所有想在美國攻讀學士、碩士或博士學位，但

has not met the language proficiency requirement for that program or that university.

還沒達到該學程或該大學語言能力要求的國際學生的計畫。

They're here 9am to 3pm every single day.

他們每天早上九點到下午三點都在這裡上課。

It's a very different schedule than the Average college or university schedule, and

這跟一般大學的課表很不一樣，

they stay with us for as long as they need to until they reach the language proficiency level needed for the university or for the program that they want to study.

他們會待在這裡，直到達到他們想讀的大學或學程所需的語言程度為止。

And how long are students typically in the program before they move on to what's next?

那學生們通常會在計畫裡待多久，然後再進入下一個階段呢？

It could be an average of anywhere from six months to a year.

平均來說，可能從六個月到一年不等。

What level they're in, when they first come in and take their placement test, that will determine the length of stay for the program.

他們剛進來參加分級測驗時，程度決定了他們待在計畫裡的時間長短。

And do you tend to have a higher concentration of students from certain regions of the world, or is it a mix of folks from around the globe?

那你們的學生是不是比較集中在某些地區，還是來自世界各地都有呢？

You know, as the world changes, our student population changes.

隨著世界在變，我們的學生組成也會跟著改變。

So for, for example, 10 years ago, five years ago, even, we would have been very heavy on the Middle Eastern populations.

舉例來說，十年前、甚至五年前，我們在中東學生比例非常高。

A lot of Saudis, a lot of Kuwaitis, and, you know, the.

很多沙烏地阿拉伯和科威特的學生，你知道的，還有。

Oh, the program didn't pay the light bill.