Name: 美俄對結束烏克蘭戰爭未達共識 | DW 新聞 (US and Russia fail to reach consensus on ending the war in Ukraine | DW News)
Uploaded: 2025-12-03T17:07:30.000Z
Duration: 10 min 34 s

基礎被動語態

The Kremlin says that no compromises were reached.

俄羅斯克裡姆林宮表示，沒有達成任何妥協。

情態副詞

In talks with the US delegation aimed at moving closer to ending the war in Ukraine, US Special envoy Steve Witkoff and Donald Trump's son in law, Jared Kushner presented a revised version of a 28 point peace plan that had been criticized for being too closely aligned to Russia's war goals.

在與美國代表團旨在推動結束烏克蘭戰爭的會談中，美國特使 Steve Witkoff 和唐納・川普的女婿 Jared Kushner 提出了一個修改版的 28 點和平計畫，該計畫先前因過於傾向俄羅斯的戰爭目標而受到批評。

Ukraine requested the revisions and tentatively backed the new draft.

烏克蘭要求進行修改，並初步支持了新草案。

Ahead of the meeting, the Russian leader rejected what he said were European demands and he warned European leaders that Russia was ready for war if that's what they wanted.

會議前，俄羅斯領導人駁斥了他所謂的歐洲的要求，並警告歐洲領導人，如果他們想要戰爭，俄羅斯已經準備好了。

Even when they try to supposedly introduce some changes to Trump's proposal, we see clearly what they're doing.

即使他們試圖對川普的提議進行一些所謂的調整，我們也清楚地看到了他們的意圖。

All these changes are aimed at only one thing, to completely block the entire peace process by putting forward demands that are absolutely unacceptable to Russia.

所有這些調整都只針對一個目標，那就是提出對俄羅斯絕對無法接受的要求，從而徹底阻礙整個和平進程。

By doing so, they then intend to blame Russia for the collapse of this peace process.

這樣做，他們就打算將這個和平進程的崩潰歸咎於俄羅斯。

Let's talk about this with DW's Nick Connolly in Kyiv and with former Moscow Bureau chief Yuri Rashetto who joins us from Riga.

接下來，我們要連線請教在基輔的DW記者Nick Connolly，以及從里加連線的莫斯科分社前社長Yuri Rashetto。

Initial statements from Moscow are rather cautious after this meeting.

莫斯科方面的初步聲明，在這次會面後顯得相當謹慎。

Is it a sign that the Russians are not satisfied with the outcome?

這是否代表俄羅斯對結果並不滿意？

Well, to me, Sarah, the mostly this mostly shows that the Russians are not happy with the US proposals or the tweaks Ukraine made to Trump's so called peace plan.

嗯，對我來說，Sarah，這主要顯示俄羅斯對美國的提議，或是烏克蘭對川普所謂的和平計畫所做的調整，都不滿意。

Not to mention the European demands which Putin seems to completely ignore right now.

更不用說普丁似乎完全無視的歐洲的要求了。

My impression is that Moscow is already pleased with how the talks went because they walked, walked in with maximum demands and five hours later didn't budge an inch.

我的感覺是，莫斯科已經對這次會談的結果感到滿意了，因為他們帶著最高的要求進場，五個小時後卻一點都沒讓步。

Putin's adviser Yuri Ushakov summed it up after the meeting like this.

普丁的顧問尤里·烏沙科夫在會後總結說。

The conversation was very useful, constructive and highly substantive.

這次談話非常有益、具建設性且實質內容豐富。

And it lasted not for five minutes, but for five hours.

而且談了不只五分鐘，而是五個小時。

This allowed us to thoroughly discuss the prospects for further joint efforts aimed at achieving a long term peaceful solution of the Ukrainian crisis.

這讓我們能夠徹底討論進一步共同努力的前景，以期長期和平解決烏克蘭危機。

Those are just the usual diplomatic latitudes.

What I take from that is that this most likely wasn't about a ceasefire for Ukraine at all.

我從中得到的理解是，這根本不是關於烏克蘭的停火。

對俄羅斯來說，有兩點最重要。

Getting Donbas and making sure Ukraine never joins NATO.

拿下頓巴斯，並確保烏克蘭永遠不會加入北約。

Of course, the meeting between Witkoff and Putin was closely watched in Ukraine.

當然，烏克蘭密切關注了 Witkoff 和普丁之間的會面。

And Nick, I'd like to ask you, what has the reaction been in Kiev?

Nick，我想問你，基輔那邊的反應是什麼？

I think if you talk to analysts here watching that meeting, they will say I told you so.

我認為，如果你問這裡關注這場會面的分析師，他們會說「我早就說過了」。

This was a further indication that Russia is not going to budge that Russia basically will only accept full capitulation from Ukraine.

這進一步顯示俄羅斯不會讓步，俄羅斯基本上只會接受烏克蘭的完全投降。

Some kind of deal where Ukraine's effective sovereignty is maintained is not something they're going to sign up to.

某種維持烏克蘭有效主權的協議，不是他們會簽署的。

And it does feel in all of this like the the outside world is a lot more optimistic, or at least trying to be optimistic about these talks and their chances than either Ukraine or Russia.

在這一切之中，感覺外部世界比烏克蘭或俄羅斯都更樂觀，或者至少試圖對這些會談及其機會感到樂觀。

Both sides not particularly convinced that peace is that close, even though maybe in public you'll have President Zelensky talking about the chances and Donald Trump's diplomatic efforts.

雙方都不太相信和平近在咫尺，即使公開場合澤倫斯基總統可能會談論機會以及川普的外交努力。

He has to be seen to be engaging and to be open to what the White House wants him to do.

他必須讓人覺得他在參與，並且對白宮希望他做的事情持開放態度。

But I think if you look at the substance, both the sides a lot further away from any kind of resolution than people in Europe, let alone in the White House would want to believe.

但我想，如果你看看實質內容，雙方距離任何解決方案，都比歐洲人，更別說白宮的人，願意相信的還要遙遠得多。

And Yuri, I mean, this is, we have to say it's not the first meeting between the real estate investor Witkoff and Putin.

尤里，我的意思是，我們必須說，這不是房地產投資者 Witkoff 和普丁之間的第一次會面。

But for Trump's son in law, Jared Kushner, it was the first.

但對川普的女婿賈德·庫許納來說，這是第一次。

And it was, you know, the chatter ahead of it was that economic interests might be at the forefront of these talks, but

而且，你知道，會談前的傳聞是經濟利益可能會是這次會談的重點，但

What's your take on what was actually discussed?

你認為實際討論的內容是什麼？

Well, first of all, let's not forget, sitting at the table weren't just politicians and diplomats.

嗯，首先，我們別忘了，坐在桌邊的不只是政治人物和外交官。

There were three businessmen, Jared Kushner, Witkoff, and Putin's negotiator.

有三位商人，賈德·庫許納、Witkoff，以及普丁的談判代表。

For Russia, ending the war isn't just about peace.

對俄羅斯來說，結束戰爭不只是為了和平。

It's a chance to restart economic cooperation with the U.S.

這是一個與美國重新啟動經濟合作的機會。

but for that to happen, sanctions need to be eased or scrapped altogether.

但要讓這發生，制裁就必須放寬或完全取消。

There are already reports that some American companies are making plans to work with Russians energy giants in places like the Arctic.

已經有報導指出，一些美國公司正計畫在北極等地方與俄羅斯能源巨頭合作。

Interestingly, Ukraine is doing the same or similar, negotiating major deals with the US that was actually Trump's idea, having US Companies involved in developing Ukraine's natural resources as a kind of security guarantees.

有趣的是，烏克蘭也在做類似的事情，與美國談判重大協議，這其實是川普的想法，讓美國公司參與開發烏克蘭的自然資源，作為一種安全保障。

Russia, on the other hand, wants to use its own resources to pull the US Closer.

另一方面，俄羅斯則希望利用自己的資源拉攏美國。

So I'm pretty sure that was part of the talks, too.

所以我非常確定這也是談判的一部分。

或許不是主要部分，但仍然是一個議題。

And Yuri, we heard Putin in a sound bite warning European leaders that Russia was ready for war if that's what they wanted.

尤里，我們聽到了普丁的聲音片段，警告歐洲領導人，如果他們想要戰爭，俄羅斯已經準備好了。

Why did Putin make such a statement at that moment?

普丁為什麼在那時候發表這樣的聲明？

In particular, I think Putin, Putin basically wanted to show who is boss, and he did.

我認為普丁基本上是想展現誰說了算，而且他做到了。

He kept Kushner and Witkov waiting for three hours, which is classic Putin, I would say.

他讓庫許納和維特科夫等了三個小時，我認為這是普丁一貫的作風。

We've seen these power plays for 25 years.

我們已經見證了這種權力鬥爭二十五年了。

While they waited, the Americans got a tour of Moscow city center all decked out for Christmas.

在等待的同時，美國人還參觀了市中心，那裡已經裝飾得充滿聖誕氣氛。

這又是另一個眾所皆知的把戲。

Impressed the guest before the real show.

在真正表演之前先讓客人印象深刻。

Then came the five hour meeting which was probably more like a history lecture from Putin to a New York real estate investor.

接著是長達五小時的會議，這大概更像是普丁對一位紐約房地產投資者進行的歷史講座。

But what really stood out, Sarah, was as a threat he made in response to the growing attacks on Russia's energy infrastructure.

但最引人注目的是，莎拉，他針對俄羅斯能源基礎設施日益增加的攻擊所發出的威脅。

Oil terminals in overseas tankers on the Black Sea.

Just yesterday another Russian tanker was hit.

就在昨天，另一艘俄羅斯油輪被擊中。

These strikes are clearly damaging Russia's energy sector and ultimately targeting Putin's watches.

這些攻擊顯然損害了俄羅斯的能源產業，最終目標是普丁的權力。

Nick, what are the options for Ukraine now after this meeting?

尼克，這次會議後，烏克蘭現在有哪些選項？

I think they have to be seen to be engaging, you know, carrying on, playing that game with Trump.

我認為他們必須展現出有在參與，你知道的，繼續進行，跟川普玩這個遊戲。

They've seen before that basically Trump comes in with a Russian plan, tries to bully Ukraine into signing on doted line and then with the help of the Europeans, some of that is then revised.

他們以前就看過了，川普基本上會提出一個俄羅斯的計畫，試圖逼烏克蘭簽字，然後在歐洲人的幫助下，其中一些內容會被修改。

I think they're going to carry on fighting on land and as Yuri mentioned there at sea.

我認為他們會繼續在陸地上作戰，就像尤里提到的，也會在海上。

I think those recent Ukrainian attacks on Russian oil tanks on the shadow fleet, that is the main thing bringing in cash to Putin's regime, that is very painful for them and it is a response to Russia's attacks on Ukraine's energy.

我認為最近烏克蘭對俄羅斯油輪和影子船隊的攻擊，這是讓普丁政權賺進大筆現金的主要來源，這對他們來說非常痛苦，也是對俄羅斯攻擊烏克蘭能源的回應。

On Ukraine recently was trying to import liquefied gas with the Turkish ship that was attacked on the Danube on a port there by Russia.

烏克蘭最近試圖進口液化天然氣，一艘土耳其的船在多瑙河的一個港口被俄羅斯攻擊了。

We're going to do the same to you and make sure that you run out of money in the hope that eventually that leads to Russia being more immune to some kind of deal, running out of resources to carry on the invasion here on land.

我們也會對你們做同樣的事，確保你們的錢花光，希望最終能讓俄羅斯對某種協議變得比較免疫，沒有資源可以繼續在這裡的地面入侵。

So I think there's going to be more of all of this.

所以我認為這些情況會越來越多。

I don't think there's going to be any, you know, turning down of the dial on this.

我認為這不會有任何緩和的跡象。

And I think from a Ukraine's perspective, this proves that these attacks on Russian shipping really work.

而且我認為從烏克蘭的角度來看，這證明瞭這些攻擊俄羅斯船運的行動確實有效。

DW's Nick Connolly in Kyiv and Yuri Rashado in Riga.

DW 的 Nick Connolly 在基輔，Yuri Rashado 在里加。

Now, as Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine approaches its fourth anniversary this winter, both sides are absorbing heavy losses.

現在，隨著俄羅斯全面入侵烏克蘭即將進入冬季的第四年，雙方都承受著慘重的損失。

DW News visited a Ukrainian couple, both surgeons who are volunteering their skills to treat the war wounded.

DW 新聞採訪了一對烏克蘭夫婦，他們都是外科醫生，正在義務為戰爭傷患提供治療。

They've even had to operate on their own family members, trauma patients, consultations, operations, helping Ukrainian soldiers get back on their feet.

他們甚至還得為自己的家人進行手術，處理創傷病人、諮詢、手術，幫助烏克蘭阿兵哥重拾戰力。

This has been life for Oksana and Stanislav for four years now.

這四年來，Oksana 和 Stanislav 的生活就是這樣。

Stanislav works with large Bone injuries.

Stanislav 專門處理大型骨骼損傷。

This man is missing a piece of bone, so we operated on him.

這個人的骨頭缺了一塊，所以我們為他動了手術。

We rebuilt the bone here and put in a device.

我們在這裡重建了骨頭，並植入了一個裝置。

And now we are lowering the bone millimeter by millimeter every day until it connects with the native bone.

現在我們每天一點一點地降低骨頭，直到它與原有的骨頭連接。

As long as we turn it millimeter by millimeter, new bone will grow.

只要我們一點一點地調整，新的骨頭就會長出來。

What the doctors can't get from the state, they seek from private foundations, including international ones.

醫生們從國家那裡得不到的，他們就向私人基金會尋求，包括國際基金會。

Sometimes they also manage to operate at the private clinic where they work, providing free consultations to wounded soldiers.

有時候，他們也能在他們工作的私人診所進行手術，為受傷的阿兵哥提供免費諮詢。

Traditionally, 85% of the wounded return to service after their injuries.

傳統上，85% 的傷兵在傷癒後會重返崗位。

We rehabilitate them well and to a high standard.

我們對他們進行了良好且高標準的康復治療。

In other words, by keeping personnel combat ready, we are strengthening our country.

換句話說，透過讓人員保持戰鬥力，我們正在加強我們的國家。

And this actually takes up the vast majority of our time.

而這實際上佔用了我們絕大部分的時間。

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