Name: 澤倫斯基為何不公開抨擊美國支持的和平方案？| DW 新聞 (Why Zelenskyy has not publicly slammed US-backed peace proposal | DW News)
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The leaders of Germany, France and Britain have stressed that the Ukrainian military must remain capable of defending the country's sovereignty.

德國、法國和英國的領導人強調，烏克蘭軍隊必須能夠捍衛國家主權。

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In a joint phone call with president Volodymyr Zelenskyy, they assured Ukraine of their continued and full support on the path to a lasting and just peace.

在與總統澤倫斯基的聯合通話中，他們向烏克蘭保證，在走向持久公正和平的道路上，將持續給予全力支持。

Backed plan to end Russia's war on Ukraine would require significant military concessions from Kyiv that experts say would leave Ukraine unable to defend itself against further Russian aggression.

支持的結束俄羅斯對烏克蘭戰爭的計畫，將要求基輔做出重大的軍事讓步，專家表示這將使烏克蘭無法防禦自己免受進一步的俄羅斯侵略。

The plan was drawn up by US And Russian officials with no apparent input from Kyiv.

這項計畫是由美國和俄羅斯官員擬定的，基輔似乎沒有參與其中。

In a matter of seconds, Russian strikes tore through this residential district in Ukraine's southeastern city of Zaporizhzhia.

俄羅斯的攻擊在幾秒鐘內就摧毀了烏克蘭東南部城市札波羅熱的這個住宅區。

Over a single day, Russian forces carried out nearly 400 attacks across the region, hitting 16 such settlements.

在一天之內，俄羅斯軍隊在該地區發動了近 400 次攻擊，擊中了 16 個這樣的聚落。

Several people were killed and scores of Ukrainians left without a roof over their heads.

幾人喪生，數十名烏克蘭人無家可歸。

As Ukrainians face daily bombardments, negotiations far from the frontline are circling a possible peace deal.

隨著烏克蘭人面臨每日的轟炸，前線遙遠的談判正圍繞著可能的和平協議進行。

In Kyiv, US army secretary Dan Driscoll met president Volodymyr Zelenskyy to brief him on a 28 point peace plan reportedly hammered out with Moscow behind closed doors without Ukraine in the room.

在基輔，美國陸軍部長丹·德里斯科爾會見了總統澤倫斯基，向他簡報了一項據稱是與莫斯科閉門擬定的 28 點和平計畫，而烏克蘭並未參與其中。

Defend your right to exist and losing should face and when we the army look and see how well you guys have done, it's remarkable.

保衛你們生存的權利，並且在失敗時，當我們軍隊看到你們的表現時，這是令人驚嘆的。

在你們的支持下，我們會盡力而為。

We are thankful to president Trump to look at this.

Zelensky wants to negotiate further, insisting any talks must involve European leaders and must keep Ukraine at the table.

澤倫斯基希望進一步談判，堅持任何會談都必須包括歐洲領導人，並且必須讓烏克蘭參與其中。

I expect to speak with President Trump in the coming days.

我預計在未來幾天與川普總統通話。

We are aware that America's strength and support can bring peace closer in reality and we do not want to lose that.

我們知道美國的力量和支持可以讓和平更接近現實，我們不想失去這個機會。

But we also understand that Russia has no real desire for peace.

但我們也明白俄羅斯並沒有真正想要和平。

Otherwise they would not have started this war.

否則他們就不會發動這場戰爭了。

Nearly four years after Vladimir Putin's full scale invasion, Russian forces now hold large parts of eastern Ukraine, including most of the Donbas region around Donetsk and Luhansk.

在普丁全面入侵近四年後，俄軍目前控制著烏克蘭東部的大部分地區，包括頓內茨克和盧甘斯克周邊的頓巴斯地區。

S backed draft peace plan would lock in much of that control.

支持的和平協議草案將鞏固其中大部分的控制權。

It would require Ukraine to formally cede the Donbas to Russia.

協議將要求烏克蘭正式將頓巴斯割讓給俄羅斯。

Keep Ukraine out of NATO with allied fighter jets instead based in Poland to protect Ukrainian airspace and cap Ukrainian armed forces at 600,000 troops in exchange for security guarantees and sanctions relief for Russia in Europe.

讓烏克蘭不加入北約，而是由盟國戰鬥機駐紮在波蘭保護烏克蘭領空，並將烏克蘭武裝部隊上限設為六十萬人，以換取俄羅斯在歐洲的安全保障和制裁緩解。

Many fear the draft could leave Ukraine negotiating from a position of weakness.

許多人擔心這項草案可能會讓烏克蘭從弱勢地位談判。

I still consider it to be a list of issues that urgently need to be discussed between Ukraine and Russia, not a final plan.

我仍然認為這是一份烏克蘭和俄羅斯迫切需要討論的議題清單，而不是最終的計畫。

It will be Ukraine that has to decide what compromises to make.

最終由烏克蘭決定要做什麼樣的妥協。

Just as Russia has to make such decisions.

就像俄羅斯也必須做出這樣的決定一樣。

On its part, EU leaders say a workable peace plan needs buy in from both Ukraine and Europe.

歐盟領導人則表示，一份可行的和平協議需要烏克蘭和歐洲雙方的認同。

Zelenskyy, meanwhile, has been careful not to publicly reject the proposal, cautious of straining ties with Washington.

澤倫斯基則小心翼翼，避免公開拒絕這項提議，謹慎以免損害與華盛頓的關係。

But with none of the key players on the same pa, a deal to end the war still appears distant.

但由於沒有任何主要參與者在同一個頁面上，結束戰爭的協議似乎仍然遙遠。

We're joined now by Roman Goncharenko from DW's Russia, Ukraine and Eastern Europe department.

現在加入我們的是來自 DW 俄羅斯、烏克蘭和東歐部門的 Roman Goncharenko。

Roman Volodymyr Zelenskyy has so far been careful not to criticize the U.

羅曼 澤倫斯基到目前為止一直謹慎，沒有批評美國支持的計畫。

他認為他會採取什麼策略來回應這項提議？

What strategy do you see him pursuing in response to this proposal?

I think there could be three reasons for that.

一、澤倫斯基仍在希望重新協商這項和平計畫。

One, Zelensky is still hoping to renegotiate that peace plan.

所以他會親自與唐納·川普談判，說服他改變。

So he's going to talk to Donald Trump personally and persuade to change it.

他也會獲得烏克蘭歐洲夥伴，以及德國的支持。

He's also going to get support from Ukraine's European partners, also from Germany.

And we should remember that the coalition of the willing, so called coalition of the willing.

而且我們要記得，所謂的「願意聯盟」。

So countries that are ready to do more for Ukraine and supporting Ukraine strongly, they have their own peace plan.

所以那些願意為烏克蘭做更多、強烈支持烏克蘭的國家，他們有自己的和平計畫。

And Ukraine would like to discuss that plan with Donald Trump.

而烏克蘭希望能跟唐納·川普討論這個計畫。

It is not quite clear as we speak if that could succeed.

在我們說話的當下，還不確定這是否會成功。

The second reason is, of course, Ukraine is very much dependent on the US Military help, so it cannot allow any strong language.

第二個原因當然是，烏克蘭非常依賴美國的軍事援助，所以不能說出任何強硬的話。

And the third reason is, I think his past experience of President Zelenskyy, who already knows that criticism, public criticism of Donald Trump, is not a good way to talk to him.

第三個原因，我想是澤倫斯基總統過去的經驗，他知道公開批評唐納·川普，不是跟他溝通的好方法。

What are the chances, Roman, that Ukraine will accept the kinds of concessions that the plan calls for?

羅曼，烏克蘭接受這項計畫所要求的那些軍事讓步的可能性有多大？

Well, it is difficult to predict anything at the moment, but

嗯，目前很難預測任何事情，但是

I don't think Ukraine is ready for major concessions.

我認為烏克蘭還沒準備好做出重大的妥協。

For example, Ukraine, it's a red line for Zelensky and for Ukraine to just hand over territories that are under Kyiv's control.

舉例來說，對澤倫斯基和烏克蘭來說，就這樣交出基輔控制下的領土，是紅線。

So where Russia wants to have those territories, especially in the Donetsk region, which is the biggest chunk of that part of Ukraine that Russia wants to have.

所以俄羅斯想要那些領土，特別是頓內茨克地區，這是俄羅斯想要擁有的烏克蘭那一部分最大的區塊。

So I don't think Ukraine is ready to go anywhere near a concession there.

所以我不認為烏克蘭已經準備好在那裡做出任何讓步。

On the other hand, a lot will depend on the security guarantees for Ukraine.

另一方面，很多事情將取決於烏克蘭的安全保障。

And what we've seen in that plan so far has been very vague.

而到目前為止，我們在這個計畫中看到的都非常模糊。

It is not clear what will happen if Russia attacks again.

如果俄羅斯再次發動攻擊，會發生什麼事並不清楚。

So I could assume that if there are really strong security guarantees and there are some options on that part, that Ukraine might do some concessions.

所以我可以假設，如果真的有強有力的安全保障，而且在那方面有一些選項，烏克蘭可能會做出一些妥協。

But at the moment, it doesn't look like that.

The US Proposal, let's be honest about it, it echoes many of Moscow's maximalist Demands.

老實說，美國的提議呼應了莫斯科的許多極端要求。

You mentioned territorial concessions already.

It essentially strips Ukraine of its sovereignty.

這基本上剝奪了烏克蘭的主權。

It was developed without any input from Ukraine or Europe or why would the US Think that approach would be acceptable?

這是在沒有烏克蘭或歐洲任何一方參與的情況下擬定的，不然美國為何會認為這種做法可以被接受？

It looks like it could be that Russian President Vladimir Putin has promised something to Donald Trump, maybe some business opportunities.

看起來俄羅斯總統普丁可能向川普承諾了什麼，也許是一些商業機會。

We see some parts, some hints on that in that peace plan, about business opportunities for United States in Ukraine and with Russia as well.

在這份和平協議中，我們看到了一些關於美國在烏克蘭以及與俄羅斯之間的商業機會的部分，一些暗示。

Russia can, of course, offer much more than Ukraine can.

俄羅斯當然能提供的比烏克蘭多得多。

And we should not forget Russia is at the moment winning on the battlefield, and

而且我們不該忘記，俄羅斯目前在戰場上是贏家，

So Vladimir Putin could have said to Donald Trump or his representatives, look, we are winning.

所以普丁可能對川普或他的代表說，看，我們正在贏。

Ukraine is weak and getting weaker, weaker every day, every week.

烏克蘭很弱，而且一天比一天、一週比一週更弱。

You are not ready to support Ukraine more.

你們還沒準備好提供更多支持給烏克蘭。

So you can either accept this deal or wait, and

所以你們可以接受這份協議，或者等待，

then you will have to accept it three or four months later.

然後三四個月後你們還是得接受。

What does this plan mean for President Zelensky personally?

這個計畫對澤倫斯基總統個人來說意味著什麼？

He's under tremendous pressure now, isn't he?

他現在承受著巨大的壓力，不是嗎？

Indeed, he's probably under the strongest pressure since the full scale Russian invasion in 2022.

的確，自從俄羅斯在2022年全面入侵以來，他承受的壓力可能最強。

So he's under pressure because his army is losing territory.

所以他的軍隊正在失去領土，這讓他承受壓力。

烏克蘭軍隊面臨兵力不足的問題。

It's not much about the weapons, but it's about personnel.

這不是武器的問題，而是兵力的問題。

This is the reason why Russia is advancing in the east, but

這就是俄羅斯在東部推進的原因，但

not also there, also in the south, which is very dangerous for Ukraine because it looks like they don't have enough, not enough structures of concrete and metal and minefields, things like that, to stop the Russian advancement in the south, in the region of Zaporizhzhia.

不只在東部，在南部也是，這對烏克蘭來說非常危險，因為看起來他們沒有足夠的、足夠的鋼筋混凝土結構和雷區，諸如此類的東西，來阻止俄羅斯在南部札波羅熱地區的推進。

On the other hand, he's, as you've mentioned, under pressure domestically, politically, because of that corruption scandal.

另一方面，正如你所提到的，他因為那場貪腐醜聞，在國內政治上也承受著壓力。

And of course, pressure is growing also from the outside because of that scandal.

當然，因為這起醜聞，外部的壓力也在增加。

So Zelenskyy is in a very dire situation.

所以澤倫斯基現在處境非常艱難。

But on the other hand, I do not see that his position might be catastrophic.

但另一方面，我認為他的處境可能不會那麼糟。

So I think that he still might find a way out of this.

所以我認為他或許還能找到解決之道。

He's under pressure to hold elections, which is one of the points of that plan, one of the issues.

他承受著舉行選舉的壓力，這也是那個計畫的其中一個重點、一個議題。

And for that to happen, Zelenskyy might, I think he might consider that, but there is a precondition.

而要達成這點，澤倫斯基或許，我認為他或許會考慮，但有一個前提。

So Zelenskyy needs a ceasefire and a longer ceasefire, and

所以澤倫斯基需要停火，而且是更長的停火，而且

he needs to be sure that Russia will not use that ceasefire to advance.

他需要確定俄羅斯不會利用這次停火來推進。

But as you've said, he's in a very, very difficult situation, under enormous pressure.

但正如你所說的，他處境非常、非常艱難，承受著巨大的壓力。

That was Roman Goncharenko from DW's Russia, Ukraine and Eastern European department.

這是來自 DW 俄羅斯、烏克蘭和東歐部門的羅曼·貢查連科。

Well, the plan is asking for major concessions from Ukraine, but

嗯，這個計畫要求烏克蘭做出重大的軍事讓步，但是

so far, at least, Zelensky appears reluctant to criticise or reject it.

到目前為止，至少澤倫斯基似乎不願批評或拒絕它。

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