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Uploaded: 2025-08-21T15:43:27.000Z
Duration: 10 min 35 s

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But I watched your documentary that you made a long time ago about your mom, your family.

但我看了你很久以前拍攝的關於你母親和你家庭的紀錄片。

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First of all, I just want to say that it's so real and so raw.

首先，我想說的是，它是如此真實，如此原始。

I just think that you are so courageous for putting that out there.

我只是覺得，你有勇氣把這些說出來。

And you just said that you were like the only thing that your mom was attached to, right?

你剛才說你是你媽媽唯一牽掛的人，對嗎？

I think I can totally see that in your documentary.

我想我完全可以從你的紀錄片中看到這一點。

Especially the last two minutes, you guys were in a tram or something.

尤其是最後兩分鐘，你們就像在電車裡一樣。

Just the way she looked at the camera and looked at you, it's just love.

她看著鏡頭和你的眼神，就是愛。

So when I saw the last few minutes, I was like, I almost broke down.

所以當我看到最後幾分鐘時，我幾乎崩潰了。

Just like, yeah, I just think that you're so brave for sharing the story with the world.

就像，是的，我只是覺得你很勇敢，能和全世界分享這個故事。

Like how your mom has mental illness and how your upbringing was like, you know, just, yeah.

比如你媽媽有精神疾病，你的成長經歷，你知道的，就是這樣。

But what was it like to stay in a garage, undocumented for seven years with your grandma and mom?

但是，和奶奶、媽媽一起在車庫裡呆了七年，沒有證件，那是一種什麼樣的體驗？

In your uncle's garage, what was it like?

It's not enough space for that many personalities.

沒有足夠的空間容納那麼多個性。

She has other, she has seven people talking to her.

她還有其他七個人在跟她說話。

So yeah, I guess, yeah, it is a lot of, it's crowded.

所以，是的，我想，是的，這裡人很多，很擁擠。

But I just thought that when you say living in a garage, I thought you meant it as a joke.

但我只是覺得，你說住在車庫裡，我以為你是在開玩笑。

But did you, I thought your uncle would let you guys in the house or something.

我以為你叔叔會讓你們進屋什麼的。

Just like, what was, did you guys really only stay in the garage?

Yeah, I mean, we would sometimes have dinners in the front house together, you know.

是的，我是說，我們有時會一起在前屋吃飯，你知道的。

Sometimes they would have church friends over.

有時，他們會請教會的朋友來家裡做客。

We would go to the front house in the living room and we would watch TV together and things like that.

我們會到前屋的客廳裡一起看電視，諸如此類。

So it wasn't, you know, it wasn't like Cinderella, you know.

所以，這不像灰姑娘，你知道的。

It wasn't like, yeah, it wasn't like just, you know, just dim.

它不像，是的，它不像只是，你知道，只是昏暗。

Harry Potter just waiting for an owl to tell me, you know, this has been a lie, you know.

哈利-波特就等著貓頭鷹來告訴我，你知道，這一直是個謊言，你知道的。

Maybe, yeah, maybe I was waiting for Hollywood to call, you know.

也許，是的，也許我在等好萊塢的電話，你知道的。

Oh, maybe I've seen you singing in your garage.

哦，也許我見過你在車庫裡唱歌。

你現在是，你將來會出名，或者其他什麼。

It wasn't, it wasn't so, so sad because I think, you know, being undocumented, I didn't even know I was undocumented until I wanted to drive.

這並沒有那麼悲傷，因為我覺得，你知道，作為無證人士，我甚至在想開車之前都不知道自己是無證人士。

And I asked my grandma, I said, hey, all my friends are starting to drive.

我問我奶奶，我說，嘿，我所有的朋友都開始開車了。

And she was like, oh, you can't because you don't have a social security number.

她就說，哦，你不行，因為你沒有社會保險號。

You're not, you know, you're not properly ID'd in America.

你在美國沒有正確的身份證明。

But you could still go to school and doing everything else.

但你仍然可以上學，做其他一切事情。

So America allows for a lot of things, even if you don't have the right papers.

是以，美國允許做很多事情，即使你沒有合適的證件。

I think, you know, even undocumented immigrants, I think they're Americans.

我認為，你知道，即使是無證移民，我也認為他們是美國人。

They're still Americans just with no papers.

他們仍然是美國人，只是沒有證件。

You know, yeah, you could go to public school up until college.

你知道，是的，你可以上公立學校，直到上大學。

You could take the bus, the trains, you know, you can go to stores.

你可以乘坐公共汽車、火車，你知道，你可以去商店買東西。

And I didn't really have interest in that, you know, so so I didn't really feel so outside.

我對這些並不感興趣，所以我並不覺得自己是個 "局外人"。

Well, I did feel outside, but I didn't know why, you know.

我確實感覺到了外面，但不知道為什麼。

And I think that's just like an undertone of maybe why.

我想，這就像一個也許是原因的暗號。

Because I didn't know those facts, but I just knew something was off about our family.

因為我不知道這些事實，但我就是知道我們家有些不對勁。

But did they tell you that, oh, you need to try to avoid troubles, otherwise you might get caught.

但他們有沒有告訴你，哦，你需要儘量避免麻煩，否則你可能會被抓住。

We might all be sent back to Japan or Taiwan.

我們可能都會被送回日本或臺灣。

There was, you know, there was some hints that my grandma would like, I would I got enrolled in Japanese school.

有一些暗示說，我的祖母會喜歡我，我會讓我進入日本學校學習。

So every Saturday we would go to it's like cram school, right?

所以每週六我們都會去補習班，對吧？

I thought they would send you to Chinese school.

我以為他們會送你去中文學校。

You could choose one Chinese or Japanese school.

您可以選擇中國學校或日本學校。

Yeah, I think to try to continue so that I can speak Japanese, continue speaking Japanese.

是的，我想繼續努力，這樣我才能說日語，繼續說日語。

Because both of them speak Mandarin, right?

So they they still send you to Japanese school.

所以，他們還是把你送進了日本學校。

I just don't think that's an interesting choice.

我只是覺得這不是一個有趣的選擇。

Or else I could do this interview in Mandarin, right?

否則，我可以用國語接受採訪，對嗎？

如果他們這麼做了，那就太好了。

The Japanese school I went to was a really bad one.

我上的那所日本學校非常糟糕。

Because that's the one I could go to because I didn't have papers.

因為那是我能去的地方，因為我沒有證件。

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