as opposed to how decisions are arrived at

和資源導向型經濟中

in a Resource-Based Economy - Well, the decision making system now

"達成"決策之間的差異 嗯 如今的決策制定體系

is mainly based upon different industries

主要是基於不同的行業

which feel that they have a good product

例如他們感覺有一個好的產品

so they advertise and convince people to buy that product.

所以他們用廣告說服人們去買他們的產品

Whereas in the future, in a saner system

然而在未來 一個更健全的體系中

we would design products not to wear out and break down

我們會設計出不易損壞和故障的產品

to last as long as possible

並盡可能持久耐用

so that the responsibility of the service sector

因此服務業的職責

would not be overloaded.

也就不會過於沉重

The longer materials last

物品的使用時間越長

the less burdensome to society.

社會感到的負擔就越少

Therefore, our major concern is not profit

因此 我們主要關心的不是利潤

it's the well-being of human beings throughout the world.

而是全世界人們的福祉

To the degree that we neglect people

在某種程度上 我們忽視了人們

we hurt our own future. For example

我們危害了自己的未來 例如

if we or the United States controlled

如果我們或者美國控制了

most of the Earth's resources

地球上的大多數資源

we would produce anxiety in other countries

我們就會使其它國家感到焦慮

for fear of running out of resources:

他們會害怕本身的資源耗竭:

arable land, water, etc. And therefore, they might invade

例如 可耕地 水資源等等 因此 他們可能

this country to try to get the necessary resources for survival.

入侵這個國家 試著取得必要的生存資源

I don't think it's wise for a nation to defend itself

我認為只在他們自己居住的地區

or try to make sustainability available

用這種方法保衛自己 或試圖達到

only in the area that they live

永續發展 這並不明智

because they would produce hatred and envy

因為他們會製造出仇恨和嫉妒

and try to control the resources of other countries

並試著控制其它國家的資源

so that we can enslave people or put them on minimum wage

因此我們奴役人們或支付他們最低工資

and get whatever we want produced

製造出任何我們所想要的

for the self-centered reason of our nation.

以我們國家為自我中心的理由

And we seek national advantage

我們尋求國家利益

rather than global advantage.

而不是全球利益

As long as we seek national advantage

只要我們尋求國家利益

it may work for a while. It may enhance the lifestyles

也許能持續一陣子 也許能提高生活方式

or increase the productivity of goods and services

或者提高物品的生產力和優質服務

but that's not of long duration. This is the only thing I worry about.

但這不能長時間持續 這是我唯一擔心的

Sustainability for separate nations is OK in the short run

永續性對於獨立國家而言 在短期內是行得通的

but in the long run it produces negative retroaction.

但最終它將產生負面的反作用

So this is how we really work if you want to know.

因此 如果你想知道維納斯計畫是如何真正運作的

The best way to understand it

最好的理解方法是

was assuming that we found a planet similar to the Earth

假設我們發現了一顆和地球相似的星球

with lots of resources, unspoiled waters

有著許多的資源 無污染的水

non-contaminated air;

無污染的空氣

and brought a group of people together and ask:

並帶著一群人一起思考和提問:

"What is it that people really need?"

"人們需要的到底是什麼?"

And then you list all the things that people really need.

然後你就列出人們真正所需的清單

The next question is: "Can that planet

下一個問題就是:"那個星球

provide for those needs?"

能滿足這些需求嗎?"

And if it cannot, you have to base your needs

如果不能 你提出的需求

on what the planet can provide.

就要基於這個星球能提供的資源

If the population is too large

如果人口過於龐大

the planet cannot provide for that enlarged population.

星球的資源就不能提供給過於膨脹的人口

Therefore, the size of the population

因此 人口數量

would be built and based upon the carrying capacity

需要以星球的承載能力

of that regional division or the planet's capacity

以及地區差異的標準制定

to produce sustainable materials.

來生產永續的材料

Therefore, we cannot invite

因此 如果這個星球

billions of people to live on the new planet

不能承載數十億人口的話 我們就不能邀請他們

if the planet cannot sustain them.

生活在這顆新的星球上

So when I say "Decisions have to be arrived at"

所以 當我說"決策必須用達成的"

first you have to study the carrying capacity of a planet

首先 你必須瞭解一個星球的承載能力

what it's capable of supporting. Then you design your cities

就是它能夠提供的資源 然後你設計你的城市

and population densities so that they correspond

使人口密度

to the carrying capacity of the environment.

與環境的承載能力相適應

That's what I mean when I say "People do not make decisions

那就是當我說"人們不是制定決策

they arrive at them." And how do you decide

他們只能達成決策" 你如何決定

how much oxygen to carry on a submarine?

帶多少氧氣到潛艇裡?

Well, that depends on the amount of people in a submarine

當然 那取決於潛艇裡有多少人在內

and how long you wish to be submerged. That determines that.

你希望在水底下待多長時間 那也決定了氧氣的多少

How do you know how much water to carry on the submarine?

你如何知道在潛艇裡要帶多少水?

How do you know how much food to carry?

你如何知道要帶多少食物?

How do you know how much electrical power?

你如何知道需要多少電力?

It depends on the performance you want of that submarine.

這取決於潛艇的性能

Then you put in the proper electrical power

然後你提供適當的電力

for operating the submarine.

來運行潛艇

You have to put in enough food and refrigeration equipment

你還要帶上足夠的食物和冷凍設備

to feed the crew. If you don't provide for that

以提供全體人員食物 如果你不準備這些

the technology may work, but the crew won't.

潛艦裡的機械或許還能工作 但隊員就不會了

You have to not make decisions, you have to arrive at them.

你不需"制定"決策 你必須"達成"決策

-That is a small portion of a talk about arriving at decisions.

這只是一小部分關於達成決策的談論

It's by survey and Scientific Method.

這是藉由科學方法的調查

And he covers some other things in there about population, laws

而且雅克·法斯科也講到一些其它事 像人口 法律

negative retroactions of separate nations and national advantage

獨立國家和國家利益的負面反作用等

and so forth. All of that lecture is posted

所有的演講都是以

in audio format; and to get that link for that and other posts

聲音檔的格式告知 如果要取得該連結和其它通告

be sure to sign up for the Twitter account which is /frescotweets

務必要在推特帳戶上註冊:/frescotweets

Lectures and Questions and Answers will be posted there periodically.

演講和問答將會定期在推特上面通告

If you'd like to help The Venus Project out more directly

如果你願意更為直接地幫助維納斯計劃

then have a look at the new global activism page

那麼請看一下全新的全球行動頁面

which you will find on the main page

在那裡你會發現主頁

under the 'Get Involved' drop down menu.

在"加入我們"的下拉式選單下面

And you can sign up on that, your contributions are greatly appreciated.

你可以在那裡註冊 我們將深深感謝您的貢獻

Thanks.

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