2014年關於諾貝爾獎得主呂克-蒙塔尼埃的《水的記憶》紀錄片。 (Water Memory Documentary of 2014 about Nobel Prize laureate Luc Montagnier)

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the life on Earth has begun in the oceans and we humans start our life in
amniotic fluid which is 99% warm water is intrinsic to our life and we are made
of water for a large part we can survive for long time without food but not
without water water is the key element of life but this element that we thought
we knew quite well might have unexpected properties and might play a role greater
than we could imagine in our tree of life that is the belief shared by the
advocates of a surprising theory called water memory for them
water has the ability to reproduce the properties of any substance it wants
contained water would have the ability to retain a memory of the molecules
property
the notion of water memory was first raised in the nineteen eighties by a
renowned scientists called Jack been finished it immediately sparked a huge
scientific controversy yet it is professor more than you to join
recipient of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology for the discovery of HIV who
took up the torch after ben-veniste although he had nothing else to prove
why did he choose to risk his career by venturing through the troubled waters of
water memory I've always been searching for the extra ordinary I find it hard to
work on an established
had rather innovate driven by curiosity he applied the technologies of
ben-veniste on his own research
following the first experiment on the blood plasma from patients infected with
HIV he detects electromagnetic signals it came to me as a real surprise I
didn't expect that and we were all fascinated by this phenomenon that
nobody had ever witnessed until this kind of phenomenon wasn't even
considered by classical biology encouraged by these first results the
professor plunged into one memory we really felt like pioneers exploring a
new scientific area a wild jungle so to speak he gave me a little vertigo to
think about the huge possibilities for medical applications I'm a trained
physician so I felt an intellectual excitement I thought it was a fantastic
discovery I began to think that ben-veniste was just right jack
ben-veniste was a renowned biologist in the nineteen eighties considered as a
candidate for the Nobel Prize but he died in 2004 from a stiff fight to
defend his controversial theory against some radical opponents
thirty years later the theory is still a red hot issue despite all that Professor
with tenure has resumed ben-veniste research but he's learned lessons from
the water memory case he knows that the road is full of obstacles and that he
can only rely on himself with no back up and no sub city I'm a non-conformist I'm
outdated just like a good old with because I'm working on a red-hot
first of all a medical doctor a pragmatist he's convinced that water
memory opens a new area of research for medicine but he must also learned
lessons from the controversial case that which caused the downfall of his
illustrious predecessor here in 1992 Jack ben-veniste gives a tour of his lap
on a parking lot this is where we work
a small lab and the trailer which looks odd but it actually serves as our
storage space as you can see we make do with what we've got
when you're into research especially when your research is temporarily
considered extraneous and you get no funds here's the lab interests I give
you a tour if you wish this is the pre-fab where Jack ben-veniste finished
his last years of lab research and I started working here with his
collaborators in 2005 for a year and a half before he was in a permanent
structure here at the Insur and obviously that was a source of
disappointment and frustration to leave that modern building to end up in that
little room it's quite a problem because we need to fit 450 square meters into a
hundred square meters space it's quite packed but it creates a friendly
atmosphere with strong interactions within the team because the researchers
are packed like sardines they mingle rapidly so it's a tight-knit team and
we're happy with it as soon as you mentioned ben-veniste is like talking
about the devil there was a sense of fear and intellectual terror because the
minute he followed by enemies track you were banned if the results fit with the
norm I'm considered as a good scientists
under the same conditions with the same technique in the same lab the results
are deviating from the actual norm then I'm considered as a misfit the system is
sick but I'm not my advantage over ben-veniste is that I got the nobel
prize for the discovery of the HIV therefore I gained recognition in the
scientific community yet today my notoriety is challenged by some who say
he might have discovered the HIV but he's outdated that's completely wrong
these are my best years of research I'm finding the most important phenomena
today it's a good thing to discover virus but finding about the mechanisms
of life that's even more important professor montaigne might have nothing
more to lose he will certainly go down in history for the discovery of HIV but
he probably wants to go down in history for another discovery related to this
iconoclastic but promising theory discreetly he makes progress in he
fights his own corner equipped with the new tool called water memory today he's
decided to lift the veil on his current research to convince us what a memory is
a theory hard to swallow so the professor invites us to follow him for
her groundbreaking experiments which will cast new light on the surprising
properties of water
hello jaan meri har you very well and you very well thanks
today we're going to perform for television and experiment that we
carried for the first time in July 2005 at the time it was a great surprise to
all of us then it became a routine before you viewers this is the first
time it's being shown on television the professor has put on the doctor's white
coat while our crew is turning his lab into a TV studio hello we're going to
take on a delicate experiment of detecting electromagnetic signals from
the DNA first I'll ask you to please turn off your mobile phones by removing
the battery is because we're going to detect extra sensitive electromagnetic
waves and the detection might be disturbed by certain mobile phones now
we're ready to start our experiment of DNA transduction the transduction
experiment carried out by Professor with tenure before our disturbing cameras
seems like science fiction starting with the DNA of an HIV infected patient he
will create a digital files sent it through the Internet to another lab
where the DNA will be reconstituted from that digital file the professor calls it
transaction would almost Khalid teleportation
we're going to detect the electromagnetic background noise which
is actually being disturbed by the camp we've never had so many cameras around
as before so it's a new thing for us there's a big noise which is uncommon
here so it's probably coming from the waves produced by your devices on the
left you can see a relatively weak background noise that's normal but on
the right you can see high frequency peaks in the spectrum and they prevented
from detecting lower frequencies which are covered by that background noise we
can turn off all the spotlights into a background noise check let's try you can
turn these are so we try again
it's a little better that the control it's all better now
the shooting methods will have to adapt to the demands of this one of a kind
experiment the crew decides to use the equipment emitting the least
electromagnetic signals like these small fixed cameras although our way
equipment considerably increase the background noise the professor decides
despite the odds to carry on the experiment to convince us that water has
a memory so here's a small tube containing deluded DNA from an HIV
infected patients there's very little DNA in here but enough to measure the
electromagnetic signals
their DNA carries all the genetic information necessary for any organisms
development and functioning is true for men for mushroom or bacteria each DNA is
unique and it allows to identify each organism just like an ID card therefore
will be able to compare the DNA reconstituted several hundreds of
kilometres away with the DNA stored in the professors fridge the experiment
will be carried out by Jim Eliza he knows the protocol very well since he
worked with ben-veniste at the beginning of his research he also helps other
teams of scientists to reproduce the experiment in Germany or Italy this is
sterile water used in our lab to make serial dilutions
making consists in a water sample then performing successive delusions until
all the molecules have disappeared here we're adding just a few DNA molecules
from an HIV infected patient we take one volume of the solution and we at nine
volumes of water at each stage we divide by 10 the number of molecules present in
the solution high dilution is at the core of every experiment serving the
water memory theory we put one molecule in contact with water then we removed
that molecule by high dilution here were getting the dilution called de tu we
vigorously shake it in a vortex for 15 seconds and then we repeat the operation
until the desired dilution is reached in our case we're going to make tended to
ships
for this experiment of matter only two nanograms are used in the beginning
thanks to this simple series of manipulations we quickly obtain
solutions we're not even a single DNA molecule remains in water if we carried
out the experiment until the 24th deletion it would be the equivalent of
diluting one drop of the original DNA into the Atlantic Ocean no delusions are
finished it's time for encoding much is at stake in this experiment as we're
trying to verify the assertions of Professor montaigne this is why I will
use a famous protocol called double blinding coding I'm going to encode the
tubes a member of the TV crew is going to label all tubes in order to avoid the
risk of fraud or influence on the experiment results I'm distributing
random figures
while the label is now it's now impossible to know which tubes
correspond to the different delusions there are 10 placebo tubes which contain
only pure water and 10 tubes which underwent hi deletions
now we're going to register each encoded solution the process involves placing
the solution on a sensor was sort of microphone we're going to record the
electromagnetic fields produced by each solution is trying to collect the
electromagnetic signal generated by the tubes placed on the sensor then he did
utilizes that signal and creates a computer file like you would do it for
us out however these tubes only contain water so what could possibly collect I'm
going to record the first to 46 seconds and I'm going to say that digital file
on the hard drive
you've got a signal emitted from tube number to the next two is number nine
the first test tubes don't reveal any particular information then the
experiment starts to give some very surprising results against all
expectations it seems like something happened some waves had been detected
coming out of certain tubes what are these trails that appear on the screen
tell us Jamal here I can observe the twenty recorded tubes 22 D
here's the tube number ten and here I observed an increase in the amplitude of
the signal a number ten yes I'm number 10 and number 323 there's also an
increase in the level of the signal what about the other troops all the other
ones are negative ok I'm going to tell you to what it does correspond to number
three corresponds to the seventh delusion c7 this is to number 10 this is
the sixth dilution ok civ D six in the seventh as far as the virus is concerned
this is the range of delusions where we detect signals the first part of the
experiment seems to be a success
gmail has identified two tubes which have been in contact with the DNA
strangely they generate signals where's classical physics has it that water does
not carry any signal the professor welcomes the results with peace in Syria
these callers are not actual colors but they represent the different
electromagnetic frequencies and you can see that the positive solutions have
important blue peaks
these are the signals emitted by water which has been charged with the DNA
molecules obviously the solutions have been alluded to such a high degree that
not even a single DNA molecules should remain it's only the structures of the
water themselves that emit a signal according to Professor montaigne the
highly diluted DNA water has retained a memory of the original DNA traces and it
returns them under the form of electromagnetic signals classical
biology and classical physics had never considered such a phenomenon it's very
hard to admit for a certain number of our colleagues including Nobel laureates
who strongly refute these ideas but these are facts this is an established
scientific fact
having a renowned researcher and Nobel laureate telling you face to face that
water can receive and transmit signals is already very disconcerting now he
wants to transfer the digital file through the internet and use it to
reconstitute the DNA 2,500 kilometers away
so I'm ready to get you the
thank you thank you for your love by the experiment is carried on in Italy at the
University of Benevento famous for the quality of its lab specialized in
molecular biology I must say that in the beginning are we telling colleagues were
quite skeptical and I was skeptical as well and we sought to the store with
Professor video about the possibility of a producer what professor money was
convinced to do but they accepted very kindly in very generously to carry out
this experiment with us i'm glad to change my mind because probably
still open to new challenges of a medication for my
story sign these
I think the challenge the Italian team is going to carry out professor
montana's experiment the other way around the signals recorded in France
will be processed by the computer and sent into a to both purified water
according to Professor this water tube will listen to these signals and
memorized them the two before fire water is headed to professor of you kill who
will lead the Italian part of the experiment he's a professor of physics
at the University he regularly Co publishes with Professor montaigne on
the water memory theory so we put water inside the solenoid and all of it inside
the new metal in order to avoid in the street and somewhat older traditions
which might be in this room and then we play a signal of NPR's HIV virus
and let to listen to music
let me call it a music this would remain like it is now listening to music for
about one hour that's it one aspect of this is quite simple there is a striking
contrast between the simplicity of the operation the few means required and the
far-reaching stakes of the experiment the experiment blends futuristic
modernity in a simple traditional and empirical scientific approach
not many thanks I have a one hour from Spain except in this case something and
then or what up tents and the case he's almost automatically because what we're
doing is thought to be so much exotic range from missing the point
but is very good also because the people dislike something new I think to be
disgusted is like putting a new light in a few more really like that so waiting
for water listening to music gives me the opportunity
together with his environment however such thought which makes me they make me
quite young I should say I feel like when I started doing research
now if you could
the biology is preparing the different tubes containing the elements required
for the last phase of the experiment she at the water which has listened to the
DNA News Leader uses PCR technology which has revolutionized molecular
biology lab word in the last twenty years but also the field of forensic
science for the identification of criminal PCR consists and putting in
water some chemical elements building blocks called nucleotides they are the
organic molecules of DNA an enzyme called polymerase will play the role of
catalyze ER at first the components remains still nothing happens but if we
introduce fragments of a DNA thanks to preliminaries we can reconstitute the
complete sequence of the DNA will have enough elements to identify which one
belongs to this DNA this phenomenon the polymerase chain reaction
kary mullis a Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1993 but here for this experiment
there's no DNA metaphysically speaking but only water which has listened to a
DNA signal sent from Paris we shouldn't expect anything to happen because it's
impossible that the DNA sequence of the virus could rebuild itself alone without
any model it would be like wanting to make a copy without the original
professor Vitiello and the head of the University of Benevento interpret the
results of the PCR on the screen
what do these bands revealed as the water of Benevento listen to the song of
that provision DNA
funds they consider that allows a you know bonds or whoever just scrambling
you are lucky because not always so nice if it's normal to see those
characteristic beings appear on screen after PCR a sign that DNA has
constituted in our case it's quite staggering the tube actually contains
only some basic elements but no trace of DNA how can one DNA molecule be
reconstituted without any money it's breathtaking
knowledge the joys of science are sometimes impenetrable specialists which
appeared on screen and which marked the beginning of a great scientific
adventure
but I understand the people we should I call it because they've opened yet there
is one more step to go before we can validate the experiment 1 independent
laboratory is going to analyze one of the DNA sample after the PCR operation
they will obtain a sequence that we can compare with the sequence of the
Parisian DNA and this simple sheet of paper will allow us to know if the long
distance DNA duplication worked well
I've just received the first results of the experiment carried out in Italy yet
Benevento and they obviously proved that a DNA transduction was possible the
sequences are 98% I did nearly completely identical 98% of common
ellen's that's enough to say that the experiment is a success it makes a lot
of people grind their teeth because not so easy to explain is it in the course
of many things is not understood literally
signs not leave answers questions so we now have a mark mentioned before
one of the most interesting aspects of the water memory theory is that it
raises lots of questions and it urges scientists to challenge the established
doctrine. In science, as in any other field it's hard to build certainties and
decide what's right or wrong now we must try to understand what happened in these
water tubes
Mark.O, a professor of chemistry and quantum physics at the University of Strasburg
will shed some light for us
his publications include an article written with Italian scientists we're
going to talk about liquid water precisely water from the river is the
Sea Tac water let's try to define that water starting point is and that's what
chemistry teaches us a water molecule containing one oxygen and 2 hydrogen atoms
to simplify things let's represent the molecule in the shape of the circle now
what if molecules have the capacity to hold hands with each other
think of it as a group of children doing a circle dance. If the chain of molecules
is long enough it can form a circle creating an enclosed space between the
molecules where matter cannot get in
however anything electromagnetic can get in all of these signals can be trapped
inside that space and that's what we call coherent domain
our scientists assumed that the ... DNA in contact with water
emitted electromagnetic signals which went to launch themselves into the
coherent domains these signals scaring the informations of the original
molecule allegedly got trapped in these aggregates of millions of water
molecules although the DNA disappeared through the high dilution these
entrapped signals simulate the DNA and its properties then what happened to
these water tubes in Italy during the PCR operation? scientists only hold
hypotheses but if the polymerase did its job I reconstituting a complete sequence
of DNA it's because it found the necessary information thanks to the
signals in trapped in a water. much work remains to be done before professor
montaigne, the experiment proved that water could have a sort of memory it
would be a real intellectual and scientific revolution opening huge
possibilities.
we cannot simply say no no it's impossible bury our heads and do nothing
on the contrary we must carry out more experiments independently and if we're
actually right we will find the same results. Only then will we moved medicine
into a new era of Medicine which will allow us to treat patients with signals
and water
this new vision of water properties has major implications for medicine the
capacity of water to store and transmit information would make it play a greater
role in our bodies. In this recipient there are 56 leaders of water its
approximate quantity of water contained in the human body of 80 kilos so water
is definitely the most important element in our body water is the main component
of the human body our body is made up of 70% water it circulates in our body
mixed with our vital fluids but it's also very present in our sales here the
conditions are favorable to the creation of many coherent domains which can trap
many signal. Water is the first thing we should be taught in biology class today
if you open the biology book what do you find? one or two pages on water and five
thousand pages on anything but water. So we would like biology to take that
dimension into consideration
instead of water volume if we started thinking in terms of the number of
molecules in our body the numbers would speak even more volumes. If you reason in terms
of numbers our body is made up of 99 percent from the substance we call water
imagine yourself inside a cell count until a hundred and you'll be saying
water ninety-nine times and one time out of a hundred you'll save protein DNA
with museum calcium what??? this 1%, which doesn't represent water but rather represent molecules of
calcium in proteins are sufficiently small to be governed by the strange laws
of the physics of the infinitely small quantum physics.
with a cell you're dealing with the microscale in that case classical
physics legitimate come into play
however when I'm dealing with de-component? meaning proteins or DNA
molecule I'm on a nanoscale dealing with nanometers and that's where quantum
physics come into play.
it's matter of scale if you're looking for the closest gas station you're not
going to use a world map in physics it's the same you need the right tool. If you
want to understand how cells work, you must point to quantum physics. In the strange world of quantum
physics there's no distinction between signal and matter. And atom is both considered as a
particle and as a signal. Precisely the water memory theory talks about signals
which would have the same properties as the matter itself there certainly a key
to understanding what's going on in the tubes of Professor M. The
problem at the moment is that biologists are required to be experts in physics
and chemistry at the same time and that's not so easy for them.
Quantum Physics date back one century but it has never been truly integrated by biologists. However, trying to understand how our cells work, trying to understand how our sales work
using quantum physics is a revolutionary idea. professor Mon's experiment
allows us to discover that certain biological elements and it signals. these
are signals his team follows in their promising medical research. for your
information the importance of this research is the theoretical basis but
also the practical basis. the medical applications are of course very
important. the professor suspect that serious chronic diseases also have
microbial causes. normally the signals emitted by the DNA of the microbes and
caught in the water of patients blood disappear after a while if he detects
them in a repeated matter in high dilution it means that a pathogenic
agents associated with the disease has settled in the organism. we were able to
link the presence of the signals in the blood of very serious and widespread
diseases as for chronic diseases like Alzheimer's Parkinson, certain ...
... and many others are not named. also autism in children and certain cancers.
here it's the sequential dilution that emit positive frequencies therefore DNA. of
people without ... and this has very important medical applications since
entire ... treatments over a long period together with other treatments
allow significant healing of these patients at the same time they make the
signals diminish or disappear
but this approach is extremely disputed by the scientific community the
professor gave a speech at the Academy of Medicine on his discoveries
concerning certain forms of autism provoking a genuine outcry within the
venerable institution however it has already given away to concrete results
today's help with these promising findings will we be able to cure autists
thanks to antibiotics this is today's exclusive story. although you no longer
can see it this talkative little boy is totally at ease in front of the camera
he's an autist and he owes his mental ... forces to his doctor. Alexander took
antibiotics very regularly and then more more spaced out for a first period of
six months and then a little less during the next six months and for the second
year, he had no treatment unless he had a setback because often they all have set
backs. about a dozen doctors in France prescribed anti infections drugs for
autistic children. among the 240 children treated in this year, 4 children out
of 5 saw their symptoms strongly regrets or disappears. in the Paris
suburbs professor M is exploring the infectious track. he has put into
place in new technology to track the latent infections in the young autists'
blood. Autism is on the hands or to begin with
was in the hands of psychoanalysts brain specialists and neurosciences and we of
course have of an infectious track because we found signals in the blood of
most autistic patients
in plain language what professor montaigne says is that we can cure some
serious diseases with antibiotics targeted and used on a long-term but the
eventual applications of water memory are not limited to the detection of the
disease. in fact the signals limited and stored by water in contact with the
molecule would then propagate the properties of this molecule enhance its
action. the day when we admit that the signals can have tangible effects. we will
use them from that moment, we will be able to treat patients with waves therefore
it's a new domain of medicine that people fear of course especially the
pharmaceutical industry but that is not excluded for the moment it's extremely
empirical but one day that will be defined and will be able to treat
cancers using frequency waves
these applications come directly from the experiment that the professor did
before us in his laboratory. imagine that in place of a DNA molecule we introduced
into the water a molecule of the medicine we could after high dilution register
on paper the waves of this medicine then re-emit them so as to simulate its presence
and thus its beneficial effects. this approach is totally revolutionary
because up to now classical chemistry established that chemical molecules have
an impact when they come in contact with each other but not from a distance there
again the scientific community is firmly opposed to this approach. if we treat
with frequencies in up with medicines it becomes extremely cost-effective
regarding the amount of money spent since we spent a lot of money to find
the frequencies but once they have been found it costs nothing to treat because
in this case medicines cost a few cents and there we have it. that would mean there
will be no more social security deficits/ And you can think I can have a nap sending with proper information to ....of gaining an effect
last year's think about that for auditory next future and is not so far???
away
way
weather would be about the detection of serious diseases or therapies by waves
Medicine, a new approach in biology is emerging based on the information that
wave frequencies can carry inside ourselves. these are probably the
premises of digital biology that Jack ben-veniste foresaw in his prefabricated
lab in the eighties
so what you see here is an isolated heart that comes from guinea-pig this
guinea-pig was made to be allergic to all that boom in the egg white if we
pass the egg white over the heart it goes into an allergic shock. If we pass what we call digital
overabument? the heart makes no distinction between digital or ...??? in the
same way that our ear cannot make the difference between a digital sound on a
CD and the real person who speaks or sings it's the same sound for the ear
thirty years later we're still at the same point even if professor M has
escaped from the prefabricated building the applications of the theory of water
memory seemed promising for a very low cost and experimentation why are there
not more teams working on the subject. professor M gathers around him a small
group of scientists in Europe the USA or in asia the scientists and their
majority seem lowly inclined to take a stand on this theory. we have tried to
interview those who contradict the theory but no one seems willing to
openly take a stand on this strange theory whose greatest defender
is a Noble prize recipient
one of the rare scientists to take an interest in this subject, JS
is a biologist and the honorary research director at INSERM
Institute he is responsible for the first test tube based in France. I believe that
today someone who would like to work on the memory of water will have to be able
to interest the businessman but the institutions don't put a penny on
something that is so marginal and that will immediately be fought by all
scientific groups and we have chosen to work with the private sector because no
funds could come from public institutions. the ben-veniste case has
made it so that anyone who takes an interest in the memory of water is
considered as I mean it smells as hell professor M didn't inherit the
scientific research done by ben-veniste he has to assume that smell of Salford
floats around anyone who meddles with the memory. to understand what is going
on today we have to go back 30 years in time to the beginnings of the
ben-veniste case in 1985 Jack ben-veniste follows the classical
pathway to validating any discovery that is to say to publish in an international
scientific journal then I sent the results of my research work in nature
the most respected research journal in which I had already published four
articles of people knew who I was and then at that moment everything exploded
ben-veniste article published by nature was exceptionally coupled with a warning
announcement saying that the journal was going to send a committee to climb up a
committee made up of John Maddox
journals director Walter Stewart expert in scientific hopes and even a conjurer
James Randi
Frank new sheet who had a medical background was a journalist in the
medical section of New Moon in the eighties when he was a regular visitor
at the ben-veniste laboratory at that time it's just so happens that
ben-veniste who wanted me to be a witness of all that asked me to be in
the laboratory in to disguise myself as a lab researcher so I was dressed in a
white coat and therefore I was a truly privileged witness of all the
proceedings of what we can call an investigative commission of nature at
first there will be experiments worked out which drove them a little while
especially Stewart in Randy's then quite quickly the scientific expert for nature
demanded ben-veniste use a more and more complex protocol and to pass the time
next to ben-veniste struggling with his tubes of water the magician kept up his
magic tricks the expertise proved to be a trap was going to happen happened once
again I do not claim have never claimed that bend the knees was right what I
mean to say is that they put in place these procedures totally out of the
ordinary in order to show that he was wrong and convince tibet been Vineeth
experiments began to no longer work so everything was thrown off balance the
team of nature went back to London and a little later the Journal published an
article discrediting ben-veniste in his research
destiny was sealed in with him that if the memory of water and very quickly as
a member of well-known scientists and doctors adopted definitely decision
against Denver knees they practically made him out to be a mystic while there
is no one more rational than jack but most of his colleagues didn't want to
hear about it for them it was impossible because if there are no molecules
nothing can come out of it at say that this is an example of obscurantism on
the part of scientists it's a paradox because the purpose of science by
definition is to bring light in comparison with religious tourism what
is not normal is that people were so mean with such a high level researcher
all the same he died from it I'm not saying that anyone killed him but I mean
there came a time when he could no longer bear the situation he was in it's
one thing to criticize and another to assassinate someone almost physically he
was a gallon a of the 20th century I think he would have been burned at the
stake for his theories in the 17th century by definition it's the role of
researchers research that ben-veniste seem to have been condemned beforehand
for his positions that went against the scientific dogma at the time should you
be sentenced for having an opinion and science ben-veniste said but God instead
of criticizing me a priori help me try out and your respective laboratories
each one of you try to reproduce what I did that's all I'm asking but it's true
that at the time I was skeptical but unlike others I never lost trust in his
research nor in him as a person there's one scientist who followed his research
from afar and who sometimes had openly said but let him work let him work you
never know this scientist was who is already at the time engaged in an
enormous research which was discovery of the HIV virus I also went through some
hard times where nobody believed in what I could find for one year we knew that
we had detected the actual virus when I say we it's a little research group
about 10 people and no one believed us our articles were rejected
it's not so important when you're dealing with scientific theories but
it's serious for people for the medical world we make money mental mistakes
medicine and we continue to make mistakes today you have to fight you
don't have any other choice and enemies demonstrated that but we have to fight
today not to make our ideas trying but rather to try improving the human
condition
it's typical of montana's personality to venture on risky roads full of obstacles
in controversy even if montaigne discovers extraordinary things some
people will say a great he's a nobel prize but he's a July he's talking
nonsense have already heard people say that some people have written that I was
sick it's unbelievable when in fact I have all my intellectual capacities
perhaps not all my physical ones but my intellect is intact people question me
see the same way they questioned ben-veniste keep saying he's cheating
became be otherwise history repeats itself
professor montaigne finds himself in the same position as eg ben-veniste thirty
years ago if he wants his research to be recognized he has to publish articles he
has are in fact already published in the scientific journal the journal of
physics with a more limited distribution the nature of signs I'm told you should
publish in science or nature I have published a good many articles in these
journals in the past I could have a try and if I can do a cult survey and send
in an article and we'll see if it's returned by mail or not but I shall not
give up we hold on because we had the fact we have to fax and above all their
medical applications
the professor is focusing today on his longtime fight against AIDS he still
hopes to be able to eradicate the disease he's trying to identify in the
blood of infected patients the unknown biological elements associated with HIV
he's working on detecting the signals emitted after high delusions he perhaps
has come to an interesting discovery everything started with the measure of
the electromagnetic signals as we found at the beginning contrary to many other
diseases
two types of signals coming from HIV infected patients we know that the virus
is there but now we're doing research on the bacteria were trying to identify the
origin of these signals of a bacterial type and we could possibly get rid of
the bacteria more easily than the HIV virus itself that could be a means of
stopping the epidemic if we could succeed in blocking
agent that is perhaps involved in the transmission of the virus professor
montaigne theory is that this material works together with the HIV virus this
is what is called a cofactor and he has been researching this for 30 years today
the professor is tracking this cofactor the one he singled out thanks to
techniques of electromagnetic detection now he hopes to detected on the screen
of the electronic microscope from Inter here we are at stake you see let's go
fishing fishing for the cofactor the professor seems self-confident and
having fun fishing but a great deal is at stake the identification of this
bacteria could open the door to new therapies against HIV much lighter and
easier than the present tribe therapies but also that would validate in fact the
method of electromagnetic detection derived from the theory of water memory
a huge revenge for him and for Ben Vinny's there we saw something that's
the membrane of arrests and then surprise in the background these three
microorganisms are infecting the red cells even in healthy people the
professor has found bacteria that he thinks is the cofactor perhaps it could
be an important advance in the fight against HIV we will be able to have
confirmation in the near future
its discovery and I'm quite satisfied with it because for a long time iPad
hypotheses but I did not find the corresponding organism a lot of
researchers do not believe in the transmitting co-factors but on the
contrary for many years I had this hypotheses the scientific facts can now
prove it if you see something no one can deny its existence except for embassies
stands out against Jack ben-veniste whose approach was more militant
fighting for the defense of his vision of science professor one memory is a
technology that could probably help him crashing his old enemy if one day I go
to a conference with a man or a woman next to me you might say I had aids I
had aids but I was healed by Professor montana's discovery I would be in heaven
the pragmatic professor hopes to be able to change his colleagues mentalities by
offering immediate medical applications
the history of science shows that when new concepts emerged at the beginning
they are fiercely attacked and they end up being accepted by everyone that's the
journal problem with science that is called the paradigm shift that is to say
that we evolved in one frame and then at one given moment we moved to another
dimension making the decision means to release them to believe in something
better be ready to believe in the opposite so you are completely free
there you need to abandon little by little your beliefs and take the plunge
will be free of water memory dissolve in the history of science or permit
professor montaigne to achieve significant medical advances we would
like for signs to decide and tell us where the truth lies what is true but
it's not always possible certain facts certain theories shake dogma and
invalidate the established troops in that respect constructive debate should
take place among researchers those who wish so should be able to freely carry
out their research in that direction even if they're wrong this is the only
way science can advance