Name: 愛潑斯坦的帳篷在哪裡？美國的究責討論會！ (Where's the Epstein accountability in the US? A panel discussion)
Uploaded: 2026-02-20T17:09:52.000Z
Duration: 10 min 47 s

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This is the first time in almost 400 years that a senior member of the British royal family has been arrested.

這是近四百年來，英國皇室資深成員首度被捕。

And this monumental moment is now raising questions for President Trump about accountability right here in the U.S.

而這個劃時代的時刻，現在也讓美國總統川普面臨美國本土的責任追究問題。

when asked about Andrew's arrest and whether anything similar would happen here, here's how President Trump responded.

當被問到安德魯的逮捕事件，以及美國是否會發生類似情況時，川普總統是這麼回應的。

Well, you know, I'm the expert in a way, because I've been totally exonerated.

嗯，你知道，我算是專家，因為我已經完全獲赦免了。

I can actually speak about it very nicely.

我其實可以很漂亮地談論這件事。

I think it's so bad for the royal family.

我覺得這對皇室來說太糟糕了。

對我來說，這是一件很悲傷的事。

It's really interesting because nobody used to speak about Epstein when he was alive, but now they speak.

這很有趣，因為過去艾普斯坦在世時沒人談論他，但現在大家都在談。

But I'm the one that can talk about it because I've been totally exonerated.

但我卻能談論這件事，因為我已經完全獲赦免了。

I mean, the question right now for a lot of people is why does there seem to be a much greater appetite overseas for accountability than there is here?

我的意思是，現在很多人在問，為什麼海外對責任追究的胃口，似乎比這裡大得多？

And then a secondary question, as you heard the president there, it's always about him.

然後是次要問題，就像你剛才聽總統說的，總是圍繞著他。

As opposed to about the broader concern that people have for justice for the victims here.

而不是圍繞著人們對這裡受害者正義的更廣泛的關注。

Yeah, I was struck by the tone in his voice there, how sad it was.

是啊，我對他語氣裡那種悲傷的感覺印象深刻。

It feels like that's genuine empathy for the people being brought down for this shocking level of corruption.

這感覺像是對那些因為這令人震驚的腐敗程度而倒下的人，有著真誠的同理心。

It's more empathy than you hear, for example, when he talks about the death of Jesse Jackson or when he talks about disasters in states governed by Democrats.

這比你聽到的同理心還多，例如，當他談論傑西·傑克遜的死，或談論由民主黨執政的州的災難時。

There was something genuine in there which was gross.

其中有些東西很真實，但也很噁心。

But this is a darkness that just continues to expand.

Not just the horrible abuse and torture and God knows what else that happened to girls and women, but

不僅僅是針對女孩和婦女發生的可怕虐待、酷刑，還有天知道什麼，而是

some of the world's richest and most powerful men trading secrets, getting rich with each other and the impunity that they thought they had.

世界上一些最富有、最有權勢的男人在交換祕密，彼此發財，以及他們以為自己擁有的豁免權。

I mean, I think that's what is terrifically shocking.

我覺得這才是真正令人震驚的地方。

And I do think there's a demand for accountability in this country, and

我確實認為這個國家對責任追究有需求，而且

politicians are going to have to reckon with it.

And remember that Trump's Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche, let me play what he said not long ago about whether there would be anything coming from the doj, more on Epstein issue.

還記得川普的副總檢察長 Todd Blanche，讓我放一段他不久前說的，關於司法部是否會有什麼行動，關於 Epstein 的問題。

In July, the Department of justice said that we had reviewed the files, the, quote, Epstein files, and

七月，司法部表示我們已經審查了這些檔案，引述「Epstein 檔案」，而且

there was nothing in there that allowed us to prosecute anybody.

裡面沒有任何東西可以讓我們起訴任何人。

Now, there's a lot of correspondence, there's a lot of emails, there's a lot of photographs.

現在，有很多通信，有很多電子郵件，有很多照片。

There's a lot of horrible photographs that appear to be taken by Mr.

有很多可怕的照片，看起來是 Mr.

But that doesn't allow us necessarily to prosecute somebody.

但這不一定能讓我們起訴某人。

Again, I'll ask how can he be so sure and how much longer, I think, is that going to fly?

我想再問一次，他怎麼能如此確定，而且我認為這還能持續多久？

When it seems to there's, there's a great desire, not just on the part of the victims, but

當似乎有強烈的願望，不只是受害者，而是

on the part of Americans to see more in terms of, at the very least, investigation and accountability here.

美國人民希望看到至少是調查和責任追究。

Yeah, I think you are going to see some investigations on this.

是的，我認為你會看到一些調查。

I mean, the more that's come out, I mean, remember, President Trump's the one that released all this.

我的意思是，出來的東西越多，我的意思是，記住，川普總統是那個公開這一切的人。

Biden never released all these, and he had them.

拜登從來沒有公開過這些，但他手上有。

So I think it's a testament to him that he did release them.

所以我認為他公開了這些，這證明瞭他的立場。

As you said, this is the first time since 1647, Charles I getting arrested.

正如你所說，自從1647年查理一世被捕以來，這是第一次。

It's a terrible thing for the Royal Family.

King Charles is going to be here in April.

I'm sure he's unhappy about having to go through that, but

我確定他對必須經歷這些感到不開心，但是

And I think ultimately, by the way, you said, you know, this is for men.

還有，我認為最終，你說的，你知道，這是針對男性的。

So this was men and women that were doing it rightly so.

所以這是男性和女性，他們這樣做是正確的。

It's, it's a terrible thing that's going on.

And it is amazing that someone like Jeffrey Epstein had this kind of power that he could, even after being arrested and put in jail.

令人驚訝的是，像傑弗瑞·愛潑斯坦這樣的人竟然有這種權力，即使在被捕入獄後，他仍然可以。

He's meeting with Prince Andrew at the time.

他當時正在和安德魯王子見面。

I mean, that is remarkable that that was going on.

我的意思是，這實在太令人驚訝了，竟然還在發生。

還有其他人，這個國家裡的其他人。

Yeah, there's a long list of people so far that have stepped aside.

是啊，到目前為止，已經有一長串的人退出了。

但是，但是這裡還有另一份名單。

These are big names that are mentioned in the Epstein files who haven't done anything.

這些是愛潑斯坦檔案中提到但什麼都沒做的大人物。

我的意思是，當然，還有川普。

霍華德·拉特尼克、小羅伯特·肯尼迪、史蒂夫·班農。

I mean, gosh, even MAGA is asking why there are no consequences for him.

我的天啊，連MAGA都在問為什麼他沒有受到任何懲罰。

Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Les Wes Wexner, who was just opposed this week.

伊隆·馬斯克、比爾·蓋茲、萊斯·韋克斯納，他這週才被反對。

President Clint is coming to speak before Congress.

克林頓總統即將在國會發表演說。

At the very least, none of these other people.

Yes, I think the people who are not in the Epstein Thousand are not on the list.

是的，我認為不在愛普斯坦千人名單裡的人，就不在這份名單上。

I think this is an issue that spans across parties.

我認為這是一個跨黨派的問題。

That what happened in that cabal of powerful, extremely wealthy.

在那個權力極大、極富的陰謀集團裡發生的事。

Folks want them to be held account to account.

大家希望他們能接受責任追究。

And you did say there is a woman in jail, but

而且你說有一個女人被關起來，但是

it's so funny that there's only one person and that it is a woman in jail when the accounts of the survivors are that it is men and not just one woman or one man, Jeffrey Epstein, but

很有趣的是，只有一個人，而且是個女人被關起來，但受害者的說法是，這都是男人，而且不只一個女人或一個男人，傑佛瑞·艾普斯坦，而是

And there are not hundreds of people in jail.

And so I've said it before, I'll say it again, that math does not math.

所以我說過很多次了，我再說一次，這數學根本不對。

And because the reason why this now spins into politics is because the Trump administration, officials in the Trump administration and so many of MAGA made this conspiracy theory come to the forefront and make it be a promise.

而且之所以這件事現在會扯到政治，是因為川普政府、川普政府的官員，還有這麼多 MAGA 的人，讓這個陰謀論浮上檯面，並將其變成一個承諾。

Releasing is not persecution for folks who have done wrong.

釋放不是對做錯事的人的迫害。

That is the thing that now this administration is going to have to really circle it around and see if they can close this gap.

這就是現在這個政府必須真正圍繞它並看看他們是否能彌補這個差距的事情。

And I, if they, if this is the administration, that does it, good for them.

如果這個政府能做到，那就太好了。

But to date, because you have Todd Blatton saying that nothing else is going to come of it, there's a lot of questions and there's too many names that are blacked out in these emails for no reason.

但到目前為止，因為你有 Todd Blatton 說不會有別的事情發生，這些電子郵件裡有太多名字被塗黑了，而且沒有任何理由。

And I don't like there's an email with a name like, why is this name blacked out?

而且我也不喜歡，有封電子郵件的名字是，為什麼這個名字被塗黑？

And there's a lot of defensiveness coming from DOJ about why those names are redacted.

而且司法部對為什麼那些名字被塗黑有很多辯護。

And they seem to be, again, more concerned about protecting the, the names of people who they claim are innocent.

而且他們似乎又一次更關心保護他們聲稱無辜的人的名字。

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