Name: 【如何展現價值並被視為領導者，卻不自誇？】（feat. Irina Posan） (How to Communicate Your Value & Be Seen as a Leader Without Bragging (w/ Irina Posan))
Uploaded: 2026-02-11T18:32:38.000Z
Duration: 38 min 3 s

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So very much looking forward to reconnecting.

Well, let's just start with can you share with my audience, with the people listening and watching?

好的，那我們就從妳可以跟我的觀眾，還有聽眾和觀眾分享，妳是誰開始，好嗎？

I have been an HR director of talent management and recruitment, spent my career in hr, now turned career coach.

我曾經是負責人才管理和招聘的人力資源總監，職涯都在人力資源領域，現在轉職成為職涯教練。

And I'm the founder of Career Cravings podcast, which I recently had you on.

我也是 Career Cravings podcast 的創辦人，我最近也邀請了妳上我的節目。

And I loved, love, loved our conversation.

我非常喜歡、超喜歡、超級喜歡我們那次的對話。

And now I help people land their dream jobs in record time.

現在我幫助大家在很短的時間內找到他們的夢想工作。

Since you're on the topic, we're talking about job search.

既然妳提到了，我們就在聊求職這件事。

I know right now the quiet achievers that are watching, there's a good chunk of them that are still in the midst of looking for a new job or they're planning to look for a new job.

我知道現在正在看的這些默默努力者，有很大一部分人還在找新工作，或者正計畫要找新工作。

And we've been hearing a lot of things going on about the market being difficult and it's hard to get a job.

我們也聽到很多關於市場很難、很難找到工作的說法。

Sending out thousands of resumes and just hearing cricket.

寄了幾千份履歷出去，卻一點消息都沒有。

I would love from your perspective, what is is happening in the job market right now?

我很想聽聽妳的看法，現在的職場到底發生了什麼事？

Yes, such a good question and so timely in terms of year end.

對，這個問題太好了，而且又很符合年底這個時機。

And I know many people will set goals to land their next opportunities that are more aligned with what they're looking for.

我知道很多人會設定目標，希望能找到更符合自己期望的機會。

If I were to look at the job market, I would say that for the last three years, it has been fairly consistent.

如果我來看職場，我會說過去三年來，情況都差不多。

It has been, to your point, a challenging job market.

就像妳說的，這確實是個艱難的職場。

It hasn't been the greatest market to find a new role.

So first, with AI changing things with the economy, so many different factors, and

所以首先，隨著 AI 改變經濟，還有好多不同的因素，

throughout the last three years, what has been consistent is that it has been challenging to find a role.

在過去三年裡，一直都很難找到一個職位。

I think a huge component that people don't talk about enough is this global awakening that a lot of us have had since 2020.

我覺得一個大家沒有充分討論到的重要因素，是自從 2020 年以來，我們很多人都經歷了一場全球覺醒。

I was very much part of that group where I started to question what is my next opportun?

我就是那群人中的一員，開始質疑我的下一個機會是什麼？

After I landed my dream job, I was thinking to myself, and

在我找到我的夢想工作之後，我心裡想著，

I know I read this in your book too, thinking to myself, is this it?

我知道妳的書裡也有提到，我心裡想著，這就是全部了嗎？

I thought it would bring me a lot more happiness than it did.

我以為這會帶給我比實際更多的快樂。

And I started asking myself the big questions, like, what is my legacy?

然後我開始問自己一些大哉問，像是，我的傳承是什麼？

What is the purpose that I want to leave?

Because I had worked so hard for over a decade to get to what I thought would be the pinnacle of my career, and

因為我花了十幾年的時間努力，才達到我以為的職涯巔峰，而且

And I think a lot of people can resonate with that.

I know my clients come to me with the same types of thoughts and trying to figure out what is next and what does that look like?

我知道我的客戶也會帶著類似的想法來找我，試圖弄清楚下一步是什麼，那會是什麼樣子？

So you can know exactly where you want to go and you can have that role in mind.

所以你可以清楚知道自己想去哪裡，並且心裡有個目標職位。

But to your point, it's harder to land now than it has been in a very long time, possibly ever.

但就像妳說的，現在要爭取到這個職位，比以往任何時候都難，可能是有史以來最難的。

And the thing that we have to keep in mind is that's not going anywhere.

而且我們要記住的是，這不會消失。

So it's not like we're going to wake up in 2026 and all of a sudden it's like, okay, anyone with a heartbeat can land any job like it was in early 2021.

所以不會是我們一覺醒來到了2026年，然後突然間，就像，好，任何有心跳的人都能找到任何工作，就像2021年初那樣。

Realistically, with AI and the way things are evolving, there is a lot of global competition and it is up to us to adapt to the new normal.

現實一點說，隨著AI和事物演變的方式，存在著大量的全球競爭，而我們必須適應新的常態。

And the more that we can accept the new normal and know how to realistically attain what we are looking for in this new normal, the better it will be.

而且我們越能接受新的常態，並知道如何在新的常態下實際爭取到我們想要的，就會越好。

Okay, so what I'm hearing you say is it's been challenging the last few years and it's going to continue to be challenging.

好的，所以我的理解是，過去幾年一直很艱難，而且未來也會持續艱難。

And what that means is, as job seekers, it means that we need to do something different than what has worked in the past.

這意味著，作為求職者，這意味著我們需要做一些與過去奏效的方法不同的事情。

If we do what we used to do in 2019, today, what will continue to happen is probably what you're hearing about as well, right?

如果我們還用 2019 年的方式做事，今天會發生的事，大概就是你聽到的那樣，對吧？

Where it's like you're applying to hundreds of roles.

Maybe you're listening and you've been applying for a year or six months and you're just not finding a way to be seen in today's market because of all of the competition.

也許你聽了，你已經投了一年或六個月，但因為競爭激烈，你就是找不到方法讓自己在今天的職場被看見。

這就看我們自己要怎麼適應了。

And if we don't, we'll continue to get those same results.

如果我們不適應，就會繼續得到同樣的結果。

We'll continue to feel stuck and stagnated.

我們會繼續感到卡住、停滯不前。

For you, what are the differences between how someone would have applied in 2019 versus how they should be applying in 2025?

對你來說，2019年和2025年申請職位的方式有什麼不同？

But what are the biggest differences that you and you don't have to share all your beautiful secrets, but

但最大的差異是什麼，你不用分享所有寶貴的祕訣，但

just some insights so that people understand what to look into?

只要提供一些洞見，讓大家瞭解該注意什麼？

And I think it does really come down to you mentioned the word Secrets.

我覺得這真的回到你剛剛提到的「祕訣」這個詞。

So it does come down to understanding what the audience is looking for at every single stage and really understanding that deeply.

所以這真的取決於你是否能深入瞭解，在每個階段觀眾在尋找什麼。

So the way that I've created my coaching programs is around understanding deeply.

我設計的職涯教練課程，就是圍繞著深入理解。

So being in HR for 15 years, leading recruitment teams, creating programs to help people get to the next level, and

我在人力資源領域待了15年，帶領招聘團隊，設計課程幫助大家更上一層樓，

using that as the basis to understand each step and.

So if we break it down, there's really five steps, and

所以如果我們把它細分，其實有五個步驟，

I don't want to take too, too long walk you through the steps, but

我不想花太多太多時間帶你走過這些步驟，但

there's kind of five phases that you can evaluate as a job seeker if you're looking for your next opportunity.

作為求職者，如果你在尋找下一個機會，可以評估有五個階段。

So if you're not hearing back at least 10% of the time in today's market, it's really a signal for you to assess that, diagnose that, and

所以如果你在目前的職場上，至少有10%的時間沒有收到回覆，這其實是一個訊號，讓你去評估、診斷，

go a little bit deeper understanding what is it that the audience wants.

然後更深入地瞭解觀眾想要什麼。

What I mean is you were a past recruiter, so what are recruiters looking for, that specific role that you're targeting?

我的意思是，你以前是招聘人員，所以招聘人員在尋找什麼？你鎖定的那個特定職位是什麼？

What are the hiring managers looking for?

how have you authentically done that in your career to show up as the best candidate.

你在職涯中是如何真實地展現自己，成為最佳候選人。

Once you're landing those interviews, 10% of the time, at least.

一旦你至少有10%的時間能獲得面試機會。

Then the next focus is a lot more challenging often, especially for the quiet achievers in your audience, which is being able to stand out in that initial phone screen.

接著下一個重點通常更具挑戰性，尤其是對你觀眾中的默默努力者來說，那就是要在初步電話篩選中脫穎而出。

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