Name: 威爾·雅頓談單口喜劇、《這個還行嗎？》以及職業生涯反思！ (Will Arnett on Stand-Up Comedy, ‘Is This Thing On?,’ and Career Reflections)
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What tipped me off was that I'm living in an apartment on my own and my wife and kids don't live there.

真正讓我覺得不對勁的是，我獨自住在公寓裡，而我的妻子和孩子們不住在那裡。

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Will, welcome to the awards tour podcast.

Will，歡迎來到頒獎季巡演播客。

I'm so excited to talk to you about this film.

我非常興奮能跟你聊聊這部電影。

You're so good in it, but it seems like something that would feel very intimidating for an actor.

你在裡面演得真好，但這似乎是個對演員來說會感到非常害怕的挑戰。

I know you're funny, I know you've done comedy and improv stuff, but

我知道你很搞笑，我知道你做過喜劇和即興表演，但是

how much familiarity did you have in the standup world before you decided to take is this thing on?

在你決定要做這個節目之前，你對單口喜劇界有多熟悉？

我就像其他人一樣，是個粉絲。

You know, standup is such a specific and really tough seeming, at least from the outside.

你知道，單口喜劇是個很特別，而且從外面看起來很難的。

And so jumping in and starting to do actual standup was, to use your word, very intimidating and kind of nerve wracking at the thought of doing it.

所以，用你的話來說，跳進去開始做真正的單口喜劇，光是想到這件事就讓人非常害怕，有點緊張。

你知道，我。我第一次開始上臺。

I went up as my character and doing the material from the film and it was.

我以我的角色上臺，表演電影裡的素材，而且。

I already had a lot of like, really healthy respect for what stand ups do, and

我已經對單口喜劇演員做的事情，有很高的、很健康的敬意了，而且

it just deepened that respect going through the process of doing this and through the preparation when I was going up and going to the Comedy Cellar every night.

透過這個過程和準備，每天去 Comedy Cellar，這種尊敬感就更深了。

What standups do is so brave and amazing.

單口喜劇演員做的事情真是勇敢又驚人。

I hosted a podcast here with my co host who is a longtime stand up comedian.

我在這裡和我的長期單口喜劇演員的共同主持人一起主持了一個播客。

He's got his name up at the Comedy Store, still tours and does all that.

他的名字還掛在 Comedy Store，仍然在巡演並做所有這些。

And so I've like seen like kind of on the outside how tough that gig is.

所以我從外面看到了那個演出有多難。

But what I really respected in your performance in this is there's an intimacy on stage and this movie manages to make it even more intimate when there's just these scenes with you and Laura sitting in a closet talking about pickup schedules.

但我在你的表演中真正欣賞的是舞臺上的親密感，而這部電影設法讓它更加親密，因為有你和 Laura 坐在衣櫥裡談論接送時間表的場景。

And I think that would also be something where it's like you already have this sort of hill to climb of that.

我想這也是你會有的那種需要克服的難關。

And then on top of that, you're having to do, I mean, stuff you've done before.

然後除此之外，你還要做的，我的意思是，是你以前做過的事情。

But I don't know how much of this kind of drama have you really done on screen?

但我不知道你到底在螢幕上做過多少這種劇情片？

我們看過你演的喜劇片比較多。

Yeah, I mean, it's been a long time since I've kind of exercised this muscle and this is the kind of work that I wanted to do when I first moved to New York, when I was 20, 35 years ago from Toronto.

是啊，我的意思是，我已經很久沒有運用這個技巧了，這也是我 35 年前從多倫多搬到紐約時，20 歲時就想做的那種工作。

And I came down and was working on this kind of stuff.

然後我下來，一直在做這類工作。

When I went to Lee Strasberg back in the day.

當年我去李·斯特拉斯堡學院的時候。

These were the kind of roles that I thought that I would be doing with right from the get go.

這些就是我認為我一開始就會接演的角色。

My life kind of went in a different direction, A great direction, but different.

我的人生有點走向了不同的方向，一個很棒的方向，但不同。

So it had been a while in a lot of ways to kind of go and just do something like this.

所以在很多方面，我已經很久沒有做這種事了。

One of the things I kind of realized was because I did have this, it was kind of like these two different elements to the film.

我意識到的一件事是，因為我有這個，電影裡有兩種不同的元素。

This Alex as the performer and doing the standup and then doing these very vulnerable, quiet, emotional scenes with Laura that have a lot of different, you know, peaks and valleys to them emotionally, certainly, and

這個 Alex 作為表演者，進行單口喜劇表演，然後與 Laura 進行非常脆弱、安靜、情感豐富的場景，這些場景在情感上有很多不同的起伏，當然，

It was so much that I didn't have time to kind of think about it too much.

You have this sort of crossroads of like, I'm either going to freak out or I'm going to give myself over to this process and be as open as I can.

你會有一個十字路口，想說，我要崩潰了，還是我要把我自己交給這個過程，盡量開放。

And that's a testament to Bradley and him asking me to trust him.

這證明瞭 Bradley 和他要我信任他。

You know, in those moments where I'm doing things that are really simple, where there's not even any dialogue, when it's just behavioral and it's just crossing a street or folding the laundry or throwing my keys on the counter and going to doing stuff on my own or driving the car back and, you know, on my way to see my kids, all those things that was a matter of giving myself over.

你知道，在那些我做一些非常簡單的事情的時刻，甚至沒有臺詞，當它只是行為，只是過馬路或洗衣服或把鑰匙扔在櫃檯上，然後自己去做事情，或開車回家，你知道，在我去看我孩子們的路上，所有這些事情都是把自己交出去的結果。

And then the scenes with Laura just, you know, making myself as available as I could in those moments to try to let the scene play out and really discover whatever is going to happen, let happen in the scene.

然後和 Laura 的場景，你知道，讓自己在那樣的時刻盡可能地投入，試圖讓場景自然發展，真正去發現會發生什麼，讓場景發生。

And again, I have this great partner in Laura Dern.

而且，我又有一位很棒的搭檔 Laura Dern。

我是說，你們兩位都太不可思議了。

I think we've seen her do this so many times.

我想我們看過她這樣做很多次了。

I mean, I feel like she does it every year with a different movie.

我是說，我覺得她每年都會帶著不同的電影這樣做。

But what I loved in the scenes that y' all did together, and

但我最喜歡你們一起演出的那些場景，

I thought it was an added element for how difficult what y' all did to pull off was, was the camera work, because you have Matthew or sometimes, I guess, Bradley, like right up on y'.

而且我覺得這為你們完成的難度增添了另一層元素，那就是鏡頭運用，因為你們有 Matthew，有時候，我想，Bradley，就像貼近你們一樣。

Because the camera work in this, I feel, is another added element to why this is such a brilliant performance.

因為我覺得這部片的鏡頭運用，是讓這場表演如此精彩的另一個加分點。

Because this is another thing that you kind of have to ignore.

因為這是另一件你們必須忽略的事情。

But I know that was, like, huge amount of rehearsal blocking.

但我知道那需要大量的排練走位。

Like, I can't even imagine what that was.

我簡直無法想像那是什麼樣的情形。

So I'd love for you to take us inside the process of bringing the camera into these very intimate scenes.

所以我很想請你帶我們深入瞭解，將鏡頭帶入這些非常親密的場景的過程。

Well, you know, we started when we were doing the camera testing in pre production, and

嗯，你知道的，我們在前期製作進行鏡頭測試時就開始了，

Bradley and Matty Libatique and I were kind of running around New York with no permits or anything, just testing.

Bradley、Matty Libatique 和我當時在紐約到處跑，沒有申請許可證什麼的，只是在測試。

They were testing out cameras, and I was kind of there to let light bounce off me and.

他們在測試攝影機，而我則在一旁讓光線打在我身上。

And we shot a bunch of stuff outside and inside the cellar as well as we were in that testing process.

在測試的過程中，我們在地下室的外面和裡面都拍了很多東西。

And that's where they landed on the language, the sort of the cinematic language of the film.

這就是他們決定電影的風格，也就是電影的電影語言的地方。

And it was also at that moment where Bradley decided that he really wanted to operate.

也是在那一刻，Bradley 決定他真的很想操作攝影機。

And Bradley joined the operators union and he operated most of the film.

Bradley 加入了攝影師工會，並且他操作了大部分的電影拍攝。

We're in these scenes and Bradley's really close to me.

我們在這些場景裡，Bradley 離我非常近。

All of that, you know, we chose that very specific one six, six, one aspect ratio.

所有這些，你知道的，我們選擇了那個非常特定的 1.66:1 畫面比例。

所有東西都用一個鏡頭，一個 40mm 的鏡頭。

And he's this far away from me at all times for most of the film, certainly in the quieter moments and in the very.

而且在整部電影的大部分時間裡，尤其是在比較安靜的時刻和真正重要的時刻，他都離我這麼近。

But what's funny is because we do trust each other and know each other so well.

但有趣的是，因為我們彼此非常信任，也非常瞭解對方。

And it had been working on this for a few years, working on the script, knowing what we wanted to do.

而且我們已經為此努力了好幾年，修改劇本，知道我們想做什麼。

There's so much familiarity that all of it kind of melted away.

有這麼多的熟悉感，讓這一切都煙消雲散了。

And Bradley would talk to me during scenes as he's operating right close up and talk me through as we're doing.

而且 Bradley 在拍攝時會跟我說話，他就在我旁邊操作，一邊拍一邊跟我溝通。

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