Name: 讓口才更上一層樓Podcast 🗨️🗣️ 如何組織你的演講 (Better Speaking Podcast 🗨️🗣️ How to organise your speaking)
Uploaded: 2025-11-26T17:00:22.000Z
Duration: 11 min 23 s

委婉語氣表達希望、渴望

If you find it difficult to speak English and would like some help to become more fluent, then better speaking is for you.

如果你覺得說英文有困難，想讓自己更流利，那這個節目就是為你準備的。

動名詞

Well, obviously I've survived in business by being able to speak English and Greek, which is not very useful outside Greece.

嗯，很明顯，我在商場上靠著說英文和希臘文生存下來，這在希臘以外的地方就沒什麼用了。

So definitely English must be the business language.

Businessman Stelios Hajiwanu has become well known here in Britain as the founder of a highly successful independent airline.

商人 Stelios Hajiwanu 在英國因為創辦了一家非常成功的獨立航空公司而廣為人知。

In this interview, he explains why he chose to start his business in Britain and not in his home country, Greece.

在這場訪談中，他解釋了為什麼他選擇在英國創業，而不是在他的祖國希臘。

Well, obviously, I've survived in business by being able to speak English and Greek, which is not very useful outside Greece.

I think it would have been impossible to run an airline in the UK without speaking English.

我想如果在英國經營一家航空公司，不會說英文的話，那是不可能的。

That would have been serious limitation to your ability to communicate with customers.

這會嚴重限制你與客戶溝通的能力。

Why didn't you start the airline in Greece?

為什麼你不在希臘開航空公司？

Or why did you go to France or Germany or everything else?

或是為什麼要去法國、德國或別的地方？

And one of the things I say is that Greece is too small.

我說的一件事是，希臘太小了。

It's in the wrong end of Europe and out of the big markets.

它位於歐洲的錯誤末端，遠離大市場。

The German, the French and the English, the only language I could speak was English, so I had to come to London.

德國人、法國人、英國人，我唯一會說的語言是英文，所以我不得不來倫敦。

Stelios needs English to run his business, and as we heard there, he speaks the language very well.

Stelios 需要英文來經營他的商業，而且正如我們聽到的，他說這門語言說得很好。

But what's he doing that makes him such a good communicator in English?

但他做了什麼讓他能用英文如此有效地溝通？

Bbclearningenglish.com and with me again in the studio is teacher and teacher trainer Richard Hallowes.

Bbclearningenglish.com，和我一起在錄音室的還有老師兼教師培訓師 Richard Hallowes。

And before we hear more from Richard, let's listen again to Stelios.

在我們聽 Richard 說更多之前，讓我們再聽聽 Stelios 的分享。

嗯，很明顯，我靠著說英文和希臘文在商場上生存下來，但在希臘以外的地方，這兩種語言幫助不大。

我想如果不會說英文，要在英國經營一家航空公司是不可能的。

那樣會嚴重限制你與客戶溝通的能力。

I mean, you come from Greece, Why didn't you start the airline in Greece?

我的意思是，你來自希臘，為什麼不在希臘創辦航空公司？

Or why didn't you go to France or Germany or everything else?

或者為什麼不去法國、德國或其他地方呢？

It's in the wrong end of the Europe and out of the big markets, the German, the French and the English, the only language I could speak was English, so I had to come to London.

它位於歐洲的錯誤角落，遠離了德國、法國和英國這些大市場，我唯一會說的語言就是英文，所以我必須來倫敦。

So Stelios hadjoanu there, obviously a very successful businessman.

所以 Stelios 在那裡，顯然是一位非常成功的商人。

But, Richard, how successful do you think he is?

但是，Richard，你認為他有多成功？

And I think one thing, what I find particularly interesting about Stelios is the way that he organises his speaking.

而且我認為有一件事，我發現 Stelios 特別有趣的地方是他組織演講的方式。

Well, he makes it very easy for us to follow what he wants to say.

嗯，他讓我們很容易理解他想說什麼。

他會用像「而且」和「還有」這樣的詞。

But more than that, listen to the way he asks a question to himself and then goes on to answer that question.

但更重要的是，聽聽他如何自問自答，然後接著回答那個問題。

為什麼不在希臘創辦航空公司？

或是你為什麼去了法國、德國或任何其他地方？

它位於歐洲的錯誤末端，而且遠離大市場。

德國人、法國人和英國人，我唯一會說的語言是英文，所以我不得不來到倫敦。

Now, by asking the question, it prepares us as being the listener to listen for the answer.

現在，透過提問，它讓我們聽眾準備好聆聽答案。

And, you know, we start thinking maybe it's this or maybe it's that, and then there's.

然後，你知道的，我們開始想，也許是這個原因，也許是那個原因，然後。

So it's a good way to get the listener to follow easily what you want them to hear, helping the listener out in the conversation.

所以這是一個讓聽眾輕鬆跟隨你想讓他們聽到的內容的好方法，在對話中幫助聽眾。

I think what our listeners can do is they can actually steal this question or adapt it in different ways.

我認為我們的聽眾可以做的是，他們可以實際偷用這個問題，或者用不同的方式改編它。

Well, they could say an interesting question is.

嗯，他們可以說一個有趣的問題是。

或者我覺得，讓我來跟你說說。

So there are ways of drawing the listener into the conversation, getting them involved and making them want to listen more.

所以有很多方法可以把聽眾帶進對話中，讓他們參與進來，讓他們更想聽下去。

Yeah, it's a way of marking that there's some important information coming next.

對，這是一種標記，表示接下來會有重要的資訊。

It's a useful idea to make it clear, as clear as possible what type of information is coming next.

讓聽眾清楚知道接下來是什麼樣的資訊，這是一個很有用的想法。

So I think if you're adding extra information or maybe contrasting information, saying something opposite in meaning, our listeners know, I think, to say and.

所以我覺得，如果你要補充額外的資訊，或者可能是對比的資訊，說一些意思相反的話，我們的聽眾就知道，我想，要說「而且」。

但或許我們可以讓這一點更清楚。

所以，與其只說「而且」然後可能。

And on top of that, or maybe even just stressing.

而且，更重要的是，或者甚至只是強調。

And so, for example, Stelios speaks very fluently and organizes it very well so we can stress the.

所以，舉例來說，Stelios 說話非常流利，而且組織得很好，所以我們可以強調。

And to make it very clear that there's some extra information coming.

而且，讓大家清楚知道有額外的資訊要進來了。

You know, native speakers do it all the time.

你知道，母語人士一直都是這樣做的。

If you're contrasting information instead of saying just but maybe, but

如果你在對比資訊，而不是隻說「但是」，而是可能，但是

And so we know, it's very clear there's some contrasting information coming.

所以我們就知道，很清楚有對比的資訊要進來了。

Little phrases like, and another thing is, and

on top of that are unnatural markers to put into sentences.

「此外」這類的小短語，在句子裡聽起來不太自然。

Can you, can you give us some examples of these?

你可以，你可以舉一些例子給我們嗎？

Okay, so learning English is about having enough language, and

好的，所以學習英文就是要具備足夠的語言能力，然後

on top of that, making our speaking clear through good organisation.

此外，透過良好的組織讓我們的口語更清晰。

And on top of that indicates that there's something more as well that needs to be listened out.

而且「on top of that」表示還有其他事情也需要注意。

For an example of contrasting information might be that I came here by bus today and I left my house very early.

舉個對比資訊的例子，就是我今天搭公車來的，而且我出門很早。

I thought it would take a long time, but in fact it took me 20 minutes.

我以為會花很久時間，但實際上只花了 20 分鐘。

So in fact used there too to contrast information.

所以實際上那裡也用來對比資訊。

Stelios, as we said, is a very natural speaker of English.

Stelios，就像我們說的，他是一位非常自然的英文使用者。

And he's got his own piece of advice for learners and speakers of English.

他對英文學習者和使用者還有自己的建議。

What I find fascinating is sometimes when you're having perhaps even a casual meeting, even a dinner with a group of people from different countries where, you know, the only common link really is business, and

我覺得很有趣的是，有時候即使是和一群來自不同國家的人隨意聚會，甚至是吃晚餐，你知道，唯一的共同點其實是商業，而