Name: 我們遇到了真正的災難農民在成本上升和特朗普關稅中掙扎 ('We've got a real disaster': Farmers struggle amid rising costs and Trump's tariffs)
Uploaded: 2025-09-14T00:05:16.000Z
Duration: 6 min 2 s

Hundreds of farmers in Arkansas gathered at a town hall last week to ask Congress for help mounting debt aging equipment and

上週，阿肯色州數百名農民聚集在市政廳，請求國會幫助解決設備老化和債務問題。

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Disappearing profits are making it nearly impossible for them to break even let alone to turn a profit

利潤的消失使他們幾乎無法實現收支平衡，更不用說盈利了

One of those farmers calls the president's tariffs quote the ice cream on top of the a cake of a perfect storm

其中一位農民稱總統的關稅政策是完美風暴蛋糕上的冰激凌

He joins us now Arkansas farmer Scott Brown who attended last week's town hall Scott really good to have you

他現在加入我們的節目，阿肯色州農民斯科特-布朗參加了上週的市政廳活動，斯科特，很高興你能來。

Thank you for having me tell me about what's happening with your farm

感謝您邀請我講述您的農場發生的事情

Well, we've got a real disaster with this tariff deal

I mean we produce 40% more agricultural products in this country than we can consume domestically

我的意思是，我們國家生產的農產品比國內消費的多 40%。

One in every four rows of soybeans in every field in the entire United States of America has to go abroad

全美國每四行大豆中就有一行要運往國外

China is the largest importer of soybeans in the world. They import 61% of the world's market

中國是世界上最大的大豆進口國。它們進口的大豆佔全球市場的 61%。

I think 14 billion dollars worth of soybeans a year before for the first time in 20 years

我想，在 20 年前的一年裡，價值 140 億美元的大豆還是頭一回

China's bought zero soybeans and zero new crop corn out of this country zero. We went from 12 0 from 12 billion to 0

中國從這個國家購買了零大豆和零新作物玉米。我們從 120 億美元降至 0 美元

Brazil BC we lost 42% of our market share in the first tariff war in in Trump's first tariff war

在特朗普發動的第一場關稅戰中，我們損失了 42% 的市場份額。

The Chinese went to buying their soybeans from Brazil. They invested billions of dollars in Brazilian infrastructure

中國人開始從巴西購買大豆。他們向巴西的基礎設施投資了數十億美元

They have moved into Africa and they're going to commercially farm in Africa since we left with USA ID

自從我們帶著美國身份證離開後，他們就搬到了非洲，並將在非洲進行商業化種植。

They moved their Belt Road program into Africa

他們將 "一帶一路 "計劃引入非洲

So we've pretty much lost the Chinese market share if we got a hundred percent of the soybean business Katie for every

是以，如果我們獲得百分之百的大豆業務凱蒂，我們就幾乎失去了中國的市場份額。

Country in the world except for Brazil and Argentina

除巴西和阿根廷外的世界其他國家

We would still only have half the soybean business that China yes, are you getting a hundred percent of everything else?

我們仍然只有中國一半的大豆業務，你能得到其他所有業務的百分之百嗎？

Yeah, we got a hundred percent of everything else we would still only have half the Chinese business

是的，我們得到了所有業務的百分之百，否則我們仍然只有一半的中國業務。

Well, what are you getting right now? If you're not getting China, are you getting every other?

那麼，你現在得到了什麼？如果你沒有得到中國，那你得到其他國家了嗎？

What probably some other countries and the markets pretty stifled

其他一些國家和市場可能相當窒息

Most of our soybeans here go to the Mississippi River. It's the closest place to market them

我們這裡的大部分大豆都運往密西西比河。這是距離市場最近的地方

They're going to go downriver and go overseas somewhere at some point

他們會順流而下，在某個時候去海外的某個地方

今天的豆子板上大約有 1028 個豆子

We're going to get 40 cents behind that as a basis because the elevators are going to want to control their hedge

我們將在此基礎上獲得 40 美分，因為電梯想要控制其套期保值。

It's going to cost us 50 or 60 cents in a truck to get there

So we're getting in the low nines in Purdue University. I'll tell you it takes $12 and 3 cents to raise them

所以我們在普渡大學的成績在九分以下。我告訴你，要花 12 美元和 3 美分才能把他們養大

Okay, so you farm soybeans you farm 800 acres, you know zero dollars coming from China that's a problem

好吧，你種植大豆，你種植了 800 英畝，你知道來自中國的零美元是個問題

How are you gonna pay your bills? How do you are you turning a profit? Are you breaking even I?

你如何支付賬單？你怎麼盈利？收支平衡嗎？

Hope to break even this year I farm so little I farm by myself

希望今年能收支平衡，我一個人種地，種得太少了

My tractors are all paid for they're old. They're 50 years old. My tractors were all made in the 70s

我的拖拉機都付過錢了，很老了。都有50年曆史了我的拖拉機都是70年代生產的

My combine was made in 1997. I cut a load of beans put it in the truck and haul it to the river myself

我的聯合收割機是 1997 年製造的。我割了一車豆子，裝進卡車，自己拉到河邊。

So I've got a lot less cost than most of these boys

所以，我的成本比這些孩子們低得多

I've got friends that farm five and six and seven thousand acres that have million-dollar combines and

我有朋友在五六七千英畝的土地上耕作，他們擁有價值百萬美元的聯合收割機和

Ten guys at fifty or sixty thousand dollars a guy trying to make this to break even I don't know how they're gonna do that

十個人，一個人五六萬美元，要想做到收支平衡，我不知道他們該怎麼做

您為農作物貸款支付利息的時間

Law, you know this entire crop went into the ground in Arkansas below the University of Arkansas's production. That means no rice

羅，你知道阿肯色州的所有作物都在阿肯色大學的產量以下。這意味著沒有水稻

No peanuts no anything would generate a profit at current inputs and the fall market prices last time Donald Trump had these tariffs he

按照目前的投入和市場價格下跌情況，沒有花生，沒有任何東西會產生利潤。

He gave farmers a leg up. He he inserted money back into the into agriculture

他給了農民一條出路。他為農業注入資金

If you were to do that again, how much money would he need to?

如果再來一次，他需要多少錢？

How much money would he need to inject into the farm industry?

At current market figures in the fall for delivery in the current average yield a cotton farmer is going to lose $375 an acre for every acre of cotton he planted a corn farmers gonna lose $220 an acre for every acre of corn he planted a bean farmers gonna lose $120 an acre for every acre he planted. So you're talking last time it was

按照目前的市場行情，以目前的平均產量在秋季交貨，棉農每種植一英畝棉花將損失 375 美元，玉米種植戶每種植一英畝玉米將損失 220 美元，豆農每種植一英畝豆子將損失 120 美元。所以你說上次是

Between a hundred and five dollars an acre and seventy five dollars an acre this time

這次的價格在每英畝一百零五美元和七十五美元之間

I'd say to take a hundred and fifty or two hundred dollars an acre to square everybody up

我想用每英畝一百五十或兩百美元的價格把大家都安置好

Because if you don't get us a market share and get us some place to sell the product and get countries that actually want

因為如果你不給我們市場份額，不給我們銷售產品的地方，不給那些真正需要的國家

Then we're gonna be in this mess again next year because we're gonna put another crop in the ground

明年我們又會陷入困境，因為我們要在地裡再種一茬作物

That's below cost of production. We have to have overseas trade. What's this doing politically a lot of farmers voted for Donald Trump

這低於生產成本。我們必須進行海外貿易。很多農民投票支持唐納德-特朗普，這在政治上有何意義？

I know you're not one of them, but what's it doing politically? Are they still?

我知道你不是他們中的一員，但它在政治上有什麼作用？他們還在嗎？

Are they still set on Trump and and his leadership

他們是否仍對特朗普及其領導層抱有希望？

I've got buddies that say you have to trust him

I have buddies that just cannot do the left side of things and that's where they're at

我有一些朋友就是不能做左邊的事情，他們就在那裡

And but now I went to the farm show in Decatur and I met a lot of guys that farm up north

但現在我去了迪凱特的農場展，遇到了很多在北方種地的人

It is sings a lot different song than they sung seven months ago or eight months ago

與七個月前或八個月前相比，他們唱的歌已經大不相同了

I'm happy you're able to keep your head above water. I hope that continues. Thank you so much for coming on

我很高興你能保持頭腦清醒。希望你能繼續保持下去。非常感謝你能來

That we have gone from 12 billion last year in exports to China to zero

我們對中國的出口從去年的 120 億美元下降到零

What a shocking number Scott. Thank you for bringing that to us

多麼令人震驚的數字啊，斯科特。謝謝你把這個數字告訴我們