Name: 成人英語學習┃隨時隨地學習美式英語發音 (Learning English as an Adult┃Learn American English Pronunciation On the Go)
Uploaded: 2025-08-14T18:22:13.000Z
Duration: 36 min 46 s

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You're listening to the Rachel's English Podcast, made especially for non-native speakers, where we study the way Americans really speak.

您正在收聽的是專為非母語人士製作的 Rachel's English Podcast，我們在這裡研究美國人真正的說話方式。

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My goal is for you to listen to this podcast every week and sound more natural when speaking

我的目標是讓您每週都收聽這個播客，並在說話時聽起來更自然。

English and improve your listening comprehension.

If you need a transcript of this podcast, it's absolutely free to download.

如果您需要本播客的文字稿，完全可以免費下載。

Visit rachelsenglish.com slash podcast and look for this episode.

請訪問 rachelsenglish.com slash podcast 並查找這一集。

In today's episode, we're speaking with an American about how he learned to speak English.

在今天的節目中，我們將與一位美國人談談他是如何學會說英語的。

Now, most Americans don't know how they learned because they learned when they were kids, and it happens naturally by immersion.

現在，大多數美國人都不知道他們是如何學習的，因為他們是在孩提時代學習的，而且是在浸泡中自然形成的。

Dave learned that way, but when he suffered a stroke as an adult, he had to relearn how to speak.

戴夫就是這樣學會的，但成年後中風，他不得不重新學習如何說話。

He has some great insight into how an adult can train to sound more like an American, and to participate in American English conversation.

他對成人如何訓練自己的發音更像美國人以及如何參與美式英語對話有很好的見解。

Dave and I met only online, but several years ago, we had a Skype call.

戴夫和我只是在網上認識的，但幾年前，我們通過 Skype 進行了通話。

I want to say that was like five or six years ago.

我想說那大概是五六年前的事了。

And Dave contacted me because he had been using my videos to practice his English, and he was using them in a way that I had not thought about before, and that was as a native speaker who had suffered a stroke, and was needed to relearn speaking.

戴夫之所以聯繫我，是因為他一直在用我的視頻練習英語，而他使用這些視頻的方式是我之前沒有想到的，那就是作為一箇中風后需要重新學習口語的母語人士。

And I thought, whoa, you know, I'm making these videos for non-native English speakers, but this is an obvious application as well.

我想，哇，你知道，我是在為母語不是英語的人制作這些視頻，但這也是一個顯而易見的應用。

And I've actually made a video that has a little bit of video with Dave in it as well.

實際上，我還製作了一個視頻，裡面也有戴夫的一些視頻。

So, if you want to check out Dave, go to Rachel's English on YouTube or on my website, and search the word squirrel.

所以，如果你想了解戴夫，請訪問 YouTube 上的瑞秋英語或我的網站，搜索 "松鼠 "一詞。

你知道嗎，我還是發不出這個音。

It's hard because it has S, K, and W all at the beginning.

很難，因為開頭都是 S、K 和 W。

So, Dave, can you tell me a little bit about yourself?

How old were you when you had your stroke, and what were you doing up to that point?

你中風時多大年紀，之前在做什麼？

And at the time, I was working for a software company as a technical writer.

當時，我在一家軟件公司擔任技術撰稿人。

So, my job was working with words and language.

是以，我的工作就是與文字和語言打交道。

And I even had people reporting to me who were not native speakers.

甚至有人向我彙報工作，而他們的母語並不是英語。

And they would always come to me and say, what is the best way to say this or that?

他們總是來問我，說這個或那個的最佳表達方式是什麼？

Okay, so you were an expert there on English, on the language.

好吧，你是英語和語言方面的專家。

Yeah, that's, I was going to ask you, what was your relationship to language like before the stroke?

是的，我正想問你，中風前你與語言的關係是怎樣的？

And it sounds like not just the average relationship that your average American would have, because it was, in fact, your work.

這聽起來不像是普通美國人會有的普通關係，因為這實際上是你的工作。

但在 2008 年，我在睡夢中中風了。

And I woke up, and I couldn't move my right side, and I couldn't speak at all.

醒來後，我的右側無法動彈，也說不出話來。

After a while, I re-learned how to move, and I re-learned how to walk, and my hand and arm got better.

過了一段時間，我重新學會了如何移動，重新學會了如何走路，我的手和胳膊也變得更好了。

Was speaking harder to work on, harder to gain ground with than the physical with the arm and such?

口語是否比手臂之類的肢體動作更難？

沒有，因為走路很快就回來了。

My arm came back so, so quickly, but my language was very, very gradual.

我的手臂恢復得非常非常快，但我的語言卻非常非常緩慢。

And as you can hear, my voice sounds odd.

正如你所聽到的，我的聲音聽起來很奇怪。

So, do you know, is there research to say why the language takes more time to come back than walking, for example?

那麼，你知道，是否有研究表明，為什麼語言的恢復比走路要花更多的時間？

Does it have to do with the smaller and more subtle movements?

這是否與更小更微妙的動作有關？

嗯，每個人的中風情況都不一樣。

Some people, with a speech, some people never get it back.

有些人在演講之後，就再也找不回來了。

So, I found I am lucky that I can speak at all.

是以，我發現自己很幸運，還能說話。

I don't know, but my stroke affected my left side of my brain, and that is where the speech sensors are.

我不知道，但我的中風影響了我的左腦，那是語言傳感器所在的位置。

So, you said when you realized you were having a stroke that you couldn't speak, when were you able to start speaking?

你說當你意識到自己中風不能說話時，你是什麼時候開始說話的？

正如我所說，這是循序漸進的。

About one or two weeks, the speech therapists who work on my being able to imitate sounds and words, and words, but I couldn't come up with them by myself because I had aphasia and apraxia.

大約一兩週後，語言治療師開始訓練我模仿聲音和單詞，但由於我患有失語症和語言障礙，我無法自己想出單詞。

Okay, so two different speech issues, aphasia and apraxia.

失語症和語言障礙是兩種不同的語言問題。

So, what would be the definition of those two conditions?

那麼，這兩個條件的定義是什麼呢？

At first, every word I wanted to say, I couldn't come up with a word for it.

起初，我想說的每一個字都想不出一個詞來。

I knew what I wanted to say conceptually, but not the individual words.

我知道我想表達的概念，但不知道具體的詞句。

Every word was at the tip of my tongue, but I couldn't speak.

每個字都在我的舌尖，但我說不出話來。

那麼，你是如何做到這一點的呢？

That seems like something that I wouldn't even know how to practice, remembering the words.

這似乎是一種我甚至不知道如何練習的東西，記住單詞。

Well, in my case, the speech therapists have lots of tricks to get that to help me.

好吧，就我而言，語言治療師有很多技巧來幫助我。

And in my case, aphasia was only about two years.

It got better and better, and now I mostly can get the words.

效果越來越好，現在我基本上都能聽懂了。

I know what the words I want to say, but apraxia is now my main problem.

我知道自己想說什麼，但發音不準是我現在的主要問題。

Apraxia, as opposed to aphasia, apraxia means I have the concept of what I want to say.

失語症與失語症不同，失語症的意思是我有想說什麼的概念。

I have the words I want to say it, but I can't remember how to make those words.

我有想說的話，卻想不起來怎麼說。

The muscles and the tongue and the palate are not...

So, that's why your videos were so good for me.

所以，這就是為什麼你的視頻對我這麼好。

So, apraxia is you can hear the word in your head, you know the word, but getting it out of your mouth is a struggle.

所以，失語症就是你能在腦子裡聽到這個詞，你知道這個詞，但要從嘴裡說出來卻很費勁。

Yeah, I had to relearn all the, how to make all the sounds in the English language.

是的，我不得不重新學習英語的所有發音。

Wow. And then also how to put them all together.

哇哦還有如何把它們組合在一起。

Would you say that now, do you think more in terms of sound units, or have words themselves become a unit? Maybe even common phrases have become a unit.

你會說，現在你是更多地從聲音組織、部門的角度思考問題，還是單詞本身已經成為一個組織、部門？也許連常見的短語也變成了一個組織、部門。

Yeah. I am working on that. Many, many, many phrases come out naturally now.

是的，我正在努力。現在很多很多短語都能自然而然地脫口而出。

Yeah. That's one thing I try to encourage my students to do, is to identify phrases that they're using all the time, or hearing all the time, like,

是啊。我鼓勵學生做的一件事，就是找出他們經常使用或聽到的短語，比如：

I don't know. And to think of that as one thing rather than three separate words.

我不知道。把這當成一件事，而不是三個單獨的詞。