So you heard Jeff Zeleny,

你聽到傑夫-澤萊尼說的了

going through the role

經歷角色

that Jill Stein played.

吉爾-斯坦所扮演的角色。

When you just look

當你看到

at the vote tallies

投票結果

in the state of Wisconsin.

在威斯康星州。

Only need 2000 votes to get on the ballot

只需 2000 票即可獲得選票

in the state of Wisconsin.

在威斯康星州。

So what do you say to Democrats

那麼你對民主黨人怎麼說

who point to Jill Stein

指出吉爾-斯坦因

and say that's going to be, you?

並說這將是，你呢？

Well, right now, you know,

好了，現在，你知道的、

I don't know what I'm going to do.

我不知道該怎麼辦。

I pull more from November.

我從 11 月開始拉更多的貨。

Right now,

就是現在

I'm polling

我在投票

pretty much equally,

差不多一樣、

probably a little more

差不多

from President Trump.

來自特朗普總統。

Like I you know,

就像我，你知道的、

as you pointed out,

正如你所指出的、

I want to pull from both of them.

我想從他們兩人身上汲取營養。

But

但是

you know, do

你知道

you want like kind of a glib answer,

你要的是那種花言巧語的回答、

a thoughtful answer?

一個深思熟慮的答案？

I'd always prefer thoughtful.

我總是更喜歡體貼的。

Okay.

好的

I mean, what I would say

我的意思是

is you have both sides.

是你有兩面性。

I'm using scare tactics.

我在使用恐嚇戰術。

Republicans say

共和黨人說

that if Joe Biden

如果喬-拜登

gets and it's going to be the

它將是

Democrats,

民主黨人

Donald Trump, and

唐納德-特朗普

it's going to be democracy.

這將是民主。

And I don't think either of them

我不認為他們中的任何一個

are actually going to destroy democracy.

實際上是在摧毀民主。

There's

有

we have

我們有

institutions in this country

國內機構

that are pretty enduring.

這些都是相當持久的。

And if you look at both those candidates,

如果你看看這兩位候選人

they're very

他們非常

different in their temperament.

性情不同。

They're very different ideology,

它們是截然不同的意識形態、

their and their rhetoric on the issues

以及他們在這些問題上的言論

where they actually depart

他們在哪裡實際出發

from each other.

互不影響。

It's a very narrow band of issues

問題範圍非常狹窄

and it's a culture war issues

文化戰爭問題

like abortion, guns, the border.

比如墮胎、槍支、邊境。

And they're all important issues,

這些問題都很重要、

but they're not

但他們不是

existential issues

生存問題

on the existential issues.

存在的問題。

Neither has the capacity to address

都沒有能力解決

the biggest one being the debt.

其中最大的問題就是債務。

We now have $34 trillion in debt.

我們現在有 34 萬億美元的債務。

The service on that debt

還本付息

is more than the eight

比八個

the our military spending.

我們的軍費開支。

So and within five years,

所以，而且是在五年之內、

$0.50 out of every

每

dollar collected and taxes

稅收

are going to go to

將前往

servicing the debt and debt

償債和債務

which President Trump

特朗普總統

and President Biden together

和拜登總統一起

in just four years each.

每人只用了四年時間。

They ran more spending.

他們花了更多的錢。

And all the previous presidents

歷屆總統

going back to George washington

回到喬治-華盛頓

and the chronic disease epidemic.

和慢性病的流行。

When my uncle was president,

我叔叔當總統的時候

60% of Americans had chronic diseases.

60% 的美國人患有慢性疾病。

60% is the biggest issue.

60% 是最大的問題。

We have

我們有

$4.3 trillion

4.3 萬億美元

that we're spending on that.

我們在這方面的開支。

And it's four times

而且是四倍

almost five times our military budget.

幾乎是我們軍事預算的五倍。

And it's getting worse and worse.

而且情況越來越糟。

You've never heard President

你從未聽說過總統

Trump talk about it.

特朗普談論它。

Never heard President Biden.

從沒聽拜登總統說過

The polarization in our country

我國的兩極分化

and existential

和存在感

all of these issues, I

所有這些問題，我

it neither of them has the capacity

他們都沒有能力

to deal with these.

來處理這些問題。

And all of those issues

所有這些問題

are created by a system

由系統創建

of corporate capture.

企業俘虜。

This corrupt merger between

這對腐敗的合併

corporate power

公司權力

that's absolutely subverted

這絕對是顛覆

and undermined our democracy.

並破壞我們的民主。

And either President Trump

特朗普總統

or President

或主席

Biden has the capacity to address it

拜登有能力解決這個問題

because they're part of that system.

因為他們是這個系統的一部分。

They're both being financed

它們都得到了資助

by BlackRock

貝萊德

and State Street

和州立街

and Vanguard, the military contractors,

和軍事承包商 Vanguard、

the pharmaceutical industries.

製藥業。

And that system just

該系統只是

spits out bad policies

吐出壞政策

and the illusion that if

以及如果

you differ on culture,

你們在文化上有分歧、

war issues and major,

戰爭問題和重大、

you know, radically different

你知道，截然不同

real things that we need to do

我們需要做的實事

to save our country, it can't do them.

拯救我們的國家，但它做不到。

And if you vote for President Trump,

如果你投票給特朗普總統

they both have their chance.

他們都有機會

You're going to get more of the same

你會得到更多相同的東西

if any.

如果有的話。

If somebody heeds

如果有人注意到

if somebody actually wants change,

如果有人真的想要改變、

once they actually alter those issues,

一旦他們真正改變了這些問題、

they're going to vote for me.

他們會投我一票

And yet

然而

to be president of the United States.

成為美國總統。

If you have to be on the ballot in enough

如果你必須在足夠多的選票上

states to be able to win

態，以便能夠贏得

the Electoral College,

選舉團、

you're not right now.

你現在不是

Yeah, And nobody.

是的，沒有人。

And you believe you will be.

你相信你會的。

I mean,

我是說

because I know, I know I will be 100%.

因為我知道，我知道我會百分之百地做到。

I'm going to be on the ballot

我要參加投票

in every state

各州

in the District of Columbia.

在哥倫比亞特區。

Well, you know, you've yet

嗯，你知道，你還

and I've said this from the beginning,

我從一開始就這麼說、

and we're already well on our way there.

我們已經在實現這一目標的道路上了。

I think with eight within eight

我認為有了八中八

weeks, we're going to probably be on

周，我們可能會在

another 19 states.

另外 19 個州。

We were not allowed

我們不能

to get on the ballot

獲得選票

before in most states

在大多數州之前

because we didn't have a vice

因為我們沒有副

presidential candidate.

總統候選人。

You have to name

你必須說出

a vice presidential candidate,

副總統候選人、

a ballot in about 26 states.

在大約 26 個州進行投票。

Now we have that

現在我們有了

and we have

我們有

we have about 200,000 volunteers.

我們有大約 20 萬名志願者。

We're going to it's going to be easy

我們會很容易的

for us

為我們

to get on the ballot and everything.

以獲得選票和一切。

So I know

所以我知道

part of the reason that, you know,

部分原因是

we get our line at 13,000 signatures,

我們在 13,000 個簽名時就能拿到我們的底線、

we got 23,000 in New Hampshire.

我們在新罕布什爾州有23000人。

They said it would take months

他們說這需要幾個月的時間

to get our signatures.

以獲得我們的簽名。

We got them in one day in Utah.

我們在猶他州一天就搞定了。

We got them in one week

我們一週內就拿到了

during a blizzard.

在暴風雪中

So, you know, we're not going to

所以，你知道，我們不會

we have a very,

我們有一個非常

very good volunteer army out there.

非常優秀的志願軍。

So when you talk about that,

所以，當你談到這一點時、

you had to have a VP candidate

你必須有一個副總統候選人

to get on in some states. Right?

要在某些州上。對不對？

So that's part of the reason I know

所以，這也是我知道

you made this decision when you did.

你做出這個決定的時候。

The person you've

你的

chosen is Nicole Shanahan.

被選中的是妮可-沙納漢。

She's a lawyer.

她是個律師

She doesn't have government experience,

她沒有政府工作經驗、

obviously not a household name.

顯然不是一個家喻戶曉的名字。

And a lot of people have questioned

很多人質疑

why you picked her.

為什麼選她

Liz Smith of the DNC just today

民主黨全國委員會的麗茲-史密斯今天剛剛

says she was picked for one reason

她說被選中的原因只有一個

and one reason only the money.

原因只有一個，那就是錢。

And obviously she speaks for the DNC.

很顯然，她是在為民主黨全國委員會說話。

But Mick Mulvaney,

但米克-馬爾瓦尼

who was OMB

誰是 OMB

director under President Trump,

特朗普總統上司下的主任、

said this.

是這樣說的

Or there's one thing

或者有一件事

we need to know about her.

我們需要了解她。

It's the reason that Kennedy picked her

這也是肯尼迪選擇她的原因

for vice president.

競選副總統。

She's fabulously wealthy.

她富得流油。

This is the woman who

她就是

single handedly bankrolled

單槍匹馬

his ad during the Super Bowl

他在超級碗期間的廣告

that cost $4 million.

耗資 400 萬美元。

That's why he put her on the ticket,

所以他才讓她入選、

along with the fact that I think

以及我認為

everybody else probably turned him down.

其他人可能都拒絕了他。

Would you have picked her

你會選她嗎

if she didn't have the money yet?

如果她還沒有錢呢？

Did you see her speech?

你看到她的演講了嗎？

Part of it.

其中一部分。

But I mean, did you pick?

但我的意思是，你選了嗎？

I don't think anybody who watched

我不認為任何看過

that speech would ever say that.

演講中會這麼說。

She wasn't impressive.

她並不令人印象深刻。

She's eloquent,

她能言善辯、

she's authentic.

她是真實的。

Her life is

她的生活

a template for the American dream.

美國夢的模板。

She started out as a minority kid

她從一個少數民族孩子做起

in Oakland, extraordinary poverty,

奧克蘭，異常貧窮、

on food stamps, on welfare.

靠食品券和福利

She grew up and attended Stanford,

她在斯坦福大學長大並就讀、

where she became a Stanford fellow.

在那裡，她成為了斯坦福大學的研究員。

She became an entrepreneur.

她成了一名企業家。

She's a very, very uber

她是一個非常非常優秀的

successful businesswoman.

成功的女商人

She hasn't been in knowledge of A.I..

她並不瞭解人工智能。

She has encyclopedic knowledge

她擁有百科全書式的知識

of a chronic disease

慢性疾病

epidemic and how to stop it.

流行病以及如何阻止它。

She is young

她很年輕

and she's a mother, and I'm honored.

她是一位母親，我很榮幸。

And it might get and I want three things.

我想要三樣東西。

One, somebody who is an insider, some

其一，內部人士，一些

because it was the insiders

因為是內部人員

who created the problem.

是誰造成了問題。

They created the debt crisis,

他們製造了債務危機、

they created the addiction to war.

他們製造了戰爭癮。

They created

他們創建了

the chronic disease epidemic.

慢性病的流行。

They created polarization.

他們製造了兩極分化。

I wanted somebody outside

我希望外面有人

who's thinking outside the box.

跳出思維定式的人。

I want to our campaign.

我想參加我們的競選活動。

It's for young people.

這是為年輕人準備的。

We are

我們是

you know, we're

你知道，我們

the only campaign

唯一的運動

that is looking at this assault

正在關注這次襲擊的

on our children, on what is happening to

我們的孩子，我們的

young generations.

年輕一代。

I wanted somebody who is young,

我想要一個年輕的人、

who is, you know, an 80 year old man.

你知道，他是一位 80 歲的老人。

I wanted somebody who is a mother.

我想找一位母親。

I wanted somebody

我希望有人

who is going to champion their issues.

誰來支持他們的問題。

And I don't think anybody

我認為沒有人

looked at Nicole Shanahan's speech,

看了妮可-沙納漢的演講、

which I urged people to do,

我敦促人們這樣做、

would ever say that

會說

the reason I picked her

我選擇她的原因

was first lady, by the way.

順便說一句，她是第一夫人。

We don't need her money

我們不需要她的錢

to get on the ballot in every state.

在每個州的選票上。

We already have

我們已經有

the biggest field

最大的領域

operation of any campaign.

任何活動的運作。

We are going to have no problem

我們不會有任何問題

getting on the ballot in every state.

在每個州的選票上。

We do not need a culture

我們不需要一種文化

and it has money.

而且有錢。

And we're getting plenty of money.

而且我們還得到了很多錢。

We're raising more money.

我們正在籌集更多資金。

Our campaign is.

我們的活動是

And President Trump or President Biden.

還有特朗普總統或拜登總統。

So when you talk about, though,

所以，當你談到

that you say that you're

你說你

pulling equally from both

雙管齊下

and we'll see what happens.

我們拭目以待。

But in the polling that we have.

但在我們的民意調查中

But hold on one second,

但請稍等一下

you guys just take Georgia,

你們就把喬治亞州

because we all know Georgia

因為我們都知道格魯吉亞

margin of victory

勝率

last time was 11,779 votes.

上次是 11 779 票。

So the latest polling from Georgia,

佐治亞州的最新民調顯示

you get 12% of the Democratic vote.

你就能獲得 12% 的民主黨選票。

You pull 5% of the Republican vote.

你拉走了 5%的共和黨選票。