It sounds nice. We've all thought about it

聽起來不錯。我們都想過這件事。

But there are certain places in the world called Blue Zones, where people just live longer without any strict diet, expensive foods supplements or a rigorous exercise routine.

但世界上有些地方被稱為 「藍色地區」在這些地方的人們不需要嚴格的飲食、昂貴的保健品或嚴格的鍛鍊，就能活得更長。

It probably sounds too good to be true, but it's true.

這聽起來可能好得不像真的，但卻是事實。

Our next guest has some answers for us in his latest book on Blue Zones.

下一位嘉賓在他最新出版的《藍色地區》一書中為我們提供了一些答案。

And he also has a New Netflix series out.

他還在 Netflix 上推出了一部新劇。

Let's take a look at it.

讓我們一起來看看。

What's the best tea to drink on a daily basis?

日常喝什麼茶最好？

Wine.

酒。

I like the way you roll.

我喜歡你的風格。

I have found that most of what people think lead to a long, healthy life is misguided or just plain wrong.

我發現，人們認為能讓人健康長壽的大多數想法都是錯誤的，或者是完全錯誤的。

What if we could reverse engineer longevity?

如果我們能逆向操縱長壽呢？

I spent the last 20 years trying to do just that.

在過去的 20 年裡，我一直在努力做到這一點。

Joining us now is New York Times, best selling author, Nat Geo fellow award winning journalist and producer.

現在加入我們的是《紐約時報》暢銷書作者、國家地理學會研究員獎獲獎記者和製片人。

And that list goes on, but we don't have the time.

他的頭銜還有很多，但我們沒有時間講完。

Dan Buettner is in studio with us,

Dan Buettner 在攝影棚現場。

Dan, thank you so much.

Dan，非常感謝你的到來。

And you know, people will start by listening to that and go, "Oh, he has a silver bullet. He knows how to do this."

你知道，人們一聽到這個就會說：「哦，他有一種靈丹妙藥。他知道怎麼做這件事。」

But this book and your research for 20 years shows that it is not a silver bullet, that it's actually a lot of different things. - Right.

但這本書和你 20 年來的研究表明，這不是靈丹妙藥，它實際上是很多不同的東西，對嗎？

And you found these places, tell us about them and why you wrote this book.

你發現了這些地方，請向我們介紹一下它們，以及你寫這本書的原因。

Well, on assignment for National Geographic, we set out to reverse engineer longevity.

為了完成《國家地理雜誌》的任務，我們著手逆向操縱長壽。

So instead of looking for it in a test tube or a Petri dish,

所以，我們不是在試管或皮氏培養皿中尋找它，

we work with demographers to find areas around the world where we know people are making it to 90 to 100 at the highest rates without the diseases that are killing Americans.

我們與人口學家合作，尋找世界各地的地區，我們知道那裡的人們以最高的比率活到 90 到 1 00 歲，而沒有在美國導致死亡的疾病。

And then we brought a second way of scientists to find out the common denominators or the correlates and no matter where you go in Asia or Latin America, North America or Europe,

然後，我們讓科學家們用第二種方法找出共同點或相關性，無論你走到亞洲、拉丁美洲、北美洲還是歐洲的哪個地方，

essentially the same things are showing up over and over and over again at producing long lived people.

在培養長壽人群的過程中，基本上都會重複出現同樣的情況。

And what are some of those things?

其中有些什麼？

Well, if you wanna know what 100-year-old ate to live to be 100, you would have to know what they were eating their whole lives.

如果你想知道百歲老人吃了什麼才能活到 100 歲，你就必須知道他們一生都在吃什麼。

So we got dietary surveys over the past 100 years in all five Blue Zones.

我們在所有五個藍色地區進行了過去 100 年的膳食調查。

And we found that overwhelmingly, they're eating a whole food plant-based diet.

我們發現，絕大多數人的飲食都是以全食植物為主。

The five foods in every Blue Zone are whole grains, greens, tubers like sweet potato, nuts and beans.

每種藍色地區常見的五種食物是全穀物、綠色蔬菜、紅薯等塊莖類食物、堅果和豆類。

And if you're eating a cup of beans a day, you're probably not only getting all your protein and most of your fiber,

如果你每天吃一杯豆子，你可能不僅攝入了全部蛋白質，還攝入了大部分纖維，

but also it's associated with living an extra four years.

也與多活四年有關。

Exercise and supplements because I know from just talking to you before we went on, so fascinating.

運動和保健品，因為我知道，在我們繼續之前，我剛和你聊過，真很有趣，

It's not just about food.

這不僅僅是食物。

So, exercise supplements 100 and $51 billion a year industry.

運動保健品是一個年收入達 510 億美元的產業。

I know you say exercise has something to do with it, but supplements?

我知道你說運動與此有關，但保健品呢？

Well, actually I think exercise is an unmitigated public health failure.

實際上，我認為運動是一種毫無疑問的公共衛生失敗。

Only 23% of Americans get the minimum, which is about 15 minutes a day.

只有23%的美國人達到最低標準，大約是每天15分鐘。

In Blue Zones, they're not pumping iron or going to the gym.

藍色地區的人不會去舉重或去健身房。

They simply live in places where every time they go to work, get occasions a walk.

他們只是生活在上班可以走路去的地方。

They have gardens out back and they haven't, they don't use all the mechanical conveniences that have engineered physical activity out of our lives.

他們在後院有花園，他們沒有使用所有將體力活動排除在我們生活之外的機械設備。

They keep their metabolisms higher all day long because they're nudged into movement.

它們整天都保持較高的新陳代謝率，因為它們被催促著運動。

And that seems to be the big idea.

這似乎是個很重要的概念。

You spent time in these Blue Zones, you're spending more time in them coming up.

你在這些藍色地帶度過了一些時間，未來你會花更多時間在這些地方。

What is it about a place like Sardinia or Okinawa that they're doing something that we here in America or not?

像撒丁島或沖繩這樣的地方，他們正在做我們在美國或沒有做的事情，這是怎麼回事？

See, that's just it, you know, in America, we tend to pursue health and longevity.

在美國，我們傾向於追求健康和長壽。

We think, "Ok, I want to live longer. I wanna be healthier. I'm gonna find this diet.

我們想：「好，我想要活得更長久。我想要更健康。我要吃這種飲食。

I'm gonna find this supplement, regimen. I'm gonna get on this bio hack and I'm gonna get healthier."

我要吃這種保健品，養生法。我要遵循這種健康小撇步，我要變得更健康。」

In Blue Zones, they don't do any of that. Longevity ensues.

在藍色地區，他們不會做任何事。 長壽隨之而來。

They are simply a product of their environment.

它們只是環境的產物。

If this was, this was interesting.

這就有意思了。

I asked you if I wanted to do this, you know, personally, how long would it take for me to get started?

我問你，如果我想做這件事，你知道，我個人需要多長時間才能開始？

You say about a month, but it's beyond what I wanna do, right?

你說要一個月，但這超出了我想做的事，對吧？

It's what my community is doing.

我所在的環境就是這樣做的。

And when you talk about the community around you, whether it's a Blue Zone or anywhere that we're living,

當你談論周遭的社群時，無論是藍色地區還是我們居住的任何地方，

it's not just exercise, it's not just these choices you make, you say the unconscious choices.

這不僅僅是運動，也不僅僅是你所做的選擇，你說的還包括那些無意識的選擇。

It's even about who you hang out with.

這甚至關係到你和誰在一起。

Yes.

是的。

If your three best friends are obese and unhealthy, there's about 150% better chance that you'll be overweight yourself.

如果你的三個好朋友都肥胖且不健康，那麼你自己過重的機率大約是 150%。

You know, there are areas in Kentucky where the life expectancy is 20 years less than that of, say, Boulder Colorado.

你知道，肯塔基州有些地區的預期壽命比科羅拉多州博爾德市低 20 年。

That's not because people in Kentucky aren't good Americans, but they just live in an environment where it's much harder to be healthy and find healthy food and move.

這並不是因為肯塔基州的人們不是很好的美國人，而是因為他們生活在一個更難保持健康、找到健康食物和活動的環境中。

So you're in the right environment to make the best decisions for you.

因此，您處於合適的環境中，可以為你做出最佳決策。

A place like Singapore. You talk about Singapore.

像是新加坡。你談到新加坡。

What did they do in Singapore to buck the trends and increase average life expectanc?

新加坡是如何逆轉趨勢，提高平均壽命的呢？

So I announced that Singapore is a new Blue Zone. It's in the book

我宣佈新加坡成為新的藍色地區。我紀錄在書裡。

And it's a manufactured Blue Zone.

新加坡是個人造的藍色地區。

In my lifetime, they've seen life expectancy go up by almost 25 years.

他們的預期壽命延長了近 25 年。

They now have the longest healthiest life expectancy in the world.

現在，他們擁有世界上最長的健康預期壽命。

That's because they, it's not because people in Singaporeans have better diets.

不是因為新加坡人的飲食比較好。

They just live in a place where healthy food is subsidized and junk food is taxed.

他們只是生活在一個健康食品有補貼、垃圾食物會被課稅的地方。

Driving your car is taxed and walking is subsidized.

開車要繳稅，走路會補貼。

They're very hard on drugs and the most interesting thing.

他們對於藥品非常嚴格。

If your aging parent lives with you or within about 500 yards, you get a tax break,

如果你的老年父母與你同住或距離你約 500 碼以內，你將減稅，

and that kind of assures that older people are cared for and doesn't rely so heavily on retirement homes which aren't necessarily healthy.

這種政策確保了老年人得到照顧，不過度依賴養老院，因為養老院未必健康。

All right, Dan, thank you so much.

好的，Dan，非常感謝。

The book is The Blue Zones Secrets For Living Longer and it's out today and the Netflix series is streaming starting tomorrow.

這本書就是《藍色地區長壽的秘密》，今天已經出版，Netflix 系列明天開始播放。

Dan, thanks so much.

Dan，非常感謝。

Really nice to meet you.

真的很高興見到你。

Hi, everyone, George Stephanopoulos here.

大家好，我是 George Stephanopoulos 。

Thanks for checking out the ABC News YouTube channel.

感謝收看美國廣播公司新聞的 YouTube 頻道。

If you'd like to get more video show highlights and watch live event coverage,

如果您想獲取更多影片節目精彩片段並觀看直播活動報導，

click on the right over here to subscribe to our channel and don't forget to download the ABC News app for breaking news alerts.

請點擊右側訂閱我們的頻道，也別忘了下載 ABC News 應用程式以獲取突發新聞提醒。

Thanks for watching.

感謝觀看。