Name: 多米尼克-菲什貝克談《猶大與黑色彌賽亞》和分享傑米-福克斯的建議｜On The Rise (Dominique Fishback Talks ‘Judas and the Black Messiah’ & Shares Jamie Foxx’s Advice | On The Rise)
Uploaded: 2021-02-26T20:36:25.000Z
Duration: 8 min 38 s

coming from from east New York, Brooklyn.

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Places like that, you don't really get to see a lot of people that have lived there, their dreams, their their big dreams like this.

這樣的地方，你真的看不到很多人，在那裡生活過，他們的夢想，他們的大夢想這樣。

過去簡單式

And I just had to believe that it was possible.

而我只是不得不相信，這是有可能的。

I'm Dominique Fish back and this is on the rise.

我是多米尼克-菲什回來了，這是在崛起。

When I was 10 years old, I would stay up to one o'clock in the morning just to catch.

在我10歲的時候，我會為了趕時間而熬到凌晨一點。

I love Lucy, and my mom would be like, You're gonna suffer in the morning when it's time to go to school.

我喜歡露西，我媽媽會說，你早上上學的時候會受罪的。

I would watch Sister, sister and take notes on if I was to marry.

如果要結婚，我會看《姐姐，妹妹》，並做筆記。

I will do like this if I was you, I would do it like that who loved a lot of romance.

如果我是你，我會這樣做的，我會這樣做的，誰喜歡很多的浪漫。

Since I was a kid, I probably should have been watching Titanic, but I would always catch it on TV.

從小到大，我可能應該一直在看《泰坦尼克號》，但我總是會在電視上看到它。

The Titanic, Romeo and Juliet, of course.

當然還有《泰坦尼克號》、《羅密歐與朱麗葉》。

獅子座和和克萊爾，我用我媽媽說。

When I was about five, I used to to melt to the floor and excruciating pain and say, I'm nothing.

在我五歲左右的時候，我曾經融化在地上，痛不欲生的說，我什麼都不是。

I was always good with the West, so there was that mhm, especially when I got to college.

我一直對西方很好，所以有那個嗯，特別是到了大學之後。

A lot of friends would kind of say that their family made them take theater as a minor or made them take something else.

很多朋友都會有點說，家裡人讓他們輔修戲劇，或者讓他們輔修其他的東西。

She never tried to make me get a job like a regular job.

她從來沒有試圖讓我找到一份像普通工作一樣的工作。

She took out loans for me to go to Pace University so that I could study theater.

她為我貸款上佩斯大學，讓我學習戲劇。

I wrote and starred in the one on Michelle called Subverted about the destruction of Black Identity in America, and I played 22 different characters spanning from, uh, the slave era and the modern side.

我編劇並主演了米歇爾的那部叫《顛覆》的片子，講的是美國黑人身份的毀滅，我扮演了22個不同的角色，跨度從，呃，奴隸時代和現代方面。

They parallel to show comparisons when I was in sociology class.

我在上社會學課的時候，他們平行顯示比較。

A lot of times I'll be the only black person in my class, and this white boy said, if African American males and low income communities dressed normally, they wouldn't be stopped by the police.

很多時候，我會是班上唯一的黑人，這個白人男孩說，如果非裔美國男性和低收入社區穿著正常，他們就不會被警察攔住。

And I was like and I started debating with him and I looked around and nobody could advocate with me because nobody was from where I was from and I was really upset.

我很喜歡，我開始和他辯論，我環顧四周，沒有人可以和我一起宣傳，因為沒有人來自我的家鄉，我真的很難過。

But then I told myself down, he doesn't know.

但我低頭告訴自己，他不知道。

What I can do is instead of getting mad, I could use the gifts and talents that God gave me to create a show.

我可以做的是，與其生氣，不如利用上帝給我的恩賜和天賦來創造一個節目。

And then for an hour and 20 minutes, that's predominantly white University has to sit in my truth and the truth of people who come from areas like mine.

然後一個小時20分鐘，那是以白人為主的大學必須坐在我的真相和像我這樣來自地區的人的真相。

I was doing a D r for Show me a hero and David before, before going into the booth, David said, Um, I want to talk to you about something afterwards and I was like, Okay, like you say it right before I go into this a d r.

我在為Show me a hero和David做D r之前，在進入展臺之前，David說，嗯，我想和你談談之後的一些事情，我就想，好吧，就像你說的那樣，在我進入這個d r之前。

So go in and finish it and then he says, So I don't know if you heard, but I'm working on a new show.

所以去完成它，然後他說，所以我不知道你是否聽說過，但我的工作在一個新的節目。

I was like, No, he said, it's called the Deuce and I wrote a character with you in mind.

我當時說，不，他說，這叫杜斯，我寫的角色就是以你為中心。

But it's not a role you take just to take it because, well, it's about the rise of the point industry in the 19 seventies in Times Square.

但這不是一個你隨便就能接的角色，因為，這是關於1970年代時代廣場的點業興起。

So read the script, and if you don't want to do it, it's no harm, no foul I talked to my mom about it, about the nudity, and she said, Damn, you're an actress And if if you feel comfortable that situation do, then I don't have no problem with it.

所以，讀劇本，如果你不想做， 它沒有傷害，沒有犯規。 我跟我的媽媽，關於它， 關於裸體，她說，該死的，你是一個演員， 如果你覺得舒服的情況下，做， 那麼我沒有任何問題。

And I wrote before the deuce came out like an open letter to my family and friends on Facebook about it, because I really didn't want to hear people.

而我在杜絲出來之前，就像一封公開信一樣，在Facebook上給我的家人和朋友寫了這封信，因為我真的不想聽別人說。

Sometimes people think they're being encouraging, and they're not.

有時人們以為自己是在鼓勵，其實不然。

When they say things like, You know, you're so talented, you don't have to do that.

當他們說這樣的話，你知道，你很有才華，你不必這樣做。

It's like I know I don't have to do that like I'm the one.

這就像我知道我不需要這樣做，就像我是一個。

I'm the one weighing out all of the options.

You don't think I thought about what you know, like I just even though they don't mean any harm.

你不要以為我想過你知道的事情，像我只是即使他們沒有任何惡意。

But you kind of get you could get defensive about that, especially when they think that some other entity is controlling what you decide to do with your body.

但是，你種得到你可以得到防守， 尤其是當他們認為一些其他實體 控制你決定做什麼與你的身體。

I remember just wanting to go really based on part and sole, and I didn't want to play into the idea of a sex worker talking a certain way or walk in a certain way I said she's gonna be That's her job.

我記得我只是想去 真正基於部分和唯一的， 我不想玩到的想法 一個性工作者說某種方式 或走在某種方式 我說她會是 那是她的工作。

And she is going to be that no matter what, no matter how she's Coco played.

而她無論如何，無論她的可可怎麼玩，都會是這樣的。

I really appreciate it journal in a judicious in the back of Messiah because it wasn't a crutch, and I realized that people were loving the performances that I was doing, and then I thought, Well, I have to journal.

我真的很欣賞它日記在一個明智的在彌賽亞的後面，因為它不是一個柺杖，我意識到，人們都喜歡的表演，我在做，然後我想，好吧，我必須寫日記。

I have to write all of these things out to make sure that I'm I'm playing a character the best of my ability.

我必須把這些東西都寫出來，以確保我是在盡我所能地扮演一個角色。

And then when I got to do Project power and Jamie Foxx and Joseph Gordon Levitt, it was moving fast.

然後，當我得到了一個項目的力量和傑米-福克斯和約瑟夫-戈登-萊維特，它是移動快速。

We would get new scenes written like right before we shot.

我們會在拍攝前就寫好新的場景。

And so I really didn't get the opportunity to journalist Robin.

所以我真的沒有機會去記者羅賓。

I remember talking to Jamie and being like, Do you Do you ever feel like that?

我記得我跟傑米說過，你有沒有這樣的感覺？

It's just easy, or how do you always feel, he said.

他說，這只是簡單的，不然你怎麼總覺得。

And sometimes, he says, when Steph Curry runs down, according he shoots a three and it goes in, he doesn't question himself as to why wouldn't it he's been doing it for so long and so have you.

他說，有時候，當斯蒂芬-庫裡跑下來的時候，根據他投籃三分，它就進了，他不會質疑自己，為什麼不會呢他已經做了這麼久，你也一樣。

And so it's kind of muscle memory and you don't have to worry about those things because it's already inside the poem I read to Daniel and the scene is called when the people call as a poem that I got to write that Shaka, allow me to put my own spin in my own truth to it.

所以這是一種肌肉記憶，你不用擔心這些東西，因為它已經在我讀給丹尼爾的詩裡面了，而這一幕被稱為當人們打電話作為一首詩，我得到了寫的沙卡，允許我把我自己的旋轉在我自己的真相。

I also was like, Well, you know, I was kind of wondering if Debra I have a journal that she carries around, even if it's not the It's not, like heavily featured in the scene, at least for the audience, and our peripheral region will see that she's constantly writing.

我也在想，嗯，你知道，我有點想知道，如果黛博拉我有一個日記，她隨身攜帶，即使它不是它的，就像大量的功能在現場，至少對觀眾，我們的周邊地區會看到，她不斷地寫。

She has a world going on outside of the chairman outside of the Black Panther Party that I wanted her to have something that belonged to her actually have to look right here.

她在黑豹黨主席之外有一個世界，我想讓她有屬於她的東西其實要看這裡。

It's a prop, and they always want to keep props on set.

這是一個道具，他們總想在現場保留道具。

Yeah, you can't have this one, like like it's really her personal my personal thoughts, but I really allow for every moment I'm looking at a poem called Have you ever kissed a silver tongue?

是啊，你不能有這個，喜歡喜歡它真的是她個人我個人的想法，但我真的允許每時每刻我都在看一首詩，叫你有沒有親吻過銀舌？

This one was really important because it was an opportunity to tell such a transformative black love love in general but black specifically because a lot of times we don't get to celebrate that and see that being a romantic.

這個真的很重要，因為它是一個機會來講述這樣一個變革性的黑人愛情一般的愛情，但黑人特別是，因為很多時候我們沒有得到慶祝，看到這是一個浪漫的。

And I always wanted to tell those stories and then getting to poor try it to help highlight who chairman Fred Hampton is and was was just an honor.

我一直想講這些故事，然後去窮試，以幫助突出弗雷德-漢普頓主席是誰，是一種榮譽。

So when I think about making it, I will say that I feel like I got to a place where I I can feel like I've shown versus utility.

所以當我想做的時候，我會說，我覺得我到了一個地方，我可以覺得我已經顯示與實用性。

But there's so much more things that are that I want to do that I have in mind to do even like I'm doing a writing the book.

但還有很多事情是我想做的，我心裡想做的，甚至像我在做一個寫書的事情。

My friend and I are doing a book club for young women for women.

我和我的朋友正在為年輕女性做一個女性讀書會。

If people want to know, it will be here for them.

如果人們想知道，就會在這裡等著他們。

If they don't, then they can, you know, just like a like a cute picture, that outpost or something, you know, just really, really trying to tap into soul's purpose and why I'm here in five years.

如果他們不這樣做，那麼他們可以，你知道，只是像一個像一個可愛的圖片，前哨什麼的，你知道，只是真的，真的想挖掘到靈魂的目的，為什麼我在這裡五年。

My dream scenario, whatever God has in store in the universe because every time I try to limit something, it always makes it bigger than what I could imagine.

我的夢想方案，無論上帝在宇宙中有什麼安排，因為每次我試圖限制一些東西，它總是讓它比我能想象的更大。

So I will leave space for all those magical things to happen.

所以，我會給這些神奇的事情留下空間。

But I see a house with a basketball court.

但我看到一棟有籃球場的房子。

How old are you getting over there with them?

We want to resort somewhere that Tony Award Oscar.

我們想度假的地方，託尼獎奧斯卡。

You know, the things that the things that we wanted as kids for me anyway, when I was a kid and wanted to be an actor, we saw those things and we had the microphone of the remote and we're like, just so I want to be able to get up there and said and say like, how big?

你知道，事情的事情，我們希望作為孩子的我，反正，當我還是個孩子，想成為一個演員，我們看到這些東西，我們有遙控器的麥克風，我們很喜歡，只是讓我想能夠得到在那裡說，說喜歡，多大？

他說，布魯克林，我們做到了。

 And where are biggie and the fact that we have the same? 

而大吉和我們有相同的事實在哪裡？

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