how to make the famous Lucali pizza at home

如何在家裡做著名的Lucali比薩。

with some help from the chef and owner, Mark Iacono.

在主廚和老闆Mark Iacono的幫助下。

This should be interesting.

這應該是有趣的。

Mark Iacono: Yes.

Mark Iacono：是的。

[things falling]

[東西掉下來]

Where'd you go?

你去哪了？

Hi, guys. I'm Herrine,

嗨，夥計們，我是Herrine，我是赫林

and I'm a video producer at Insider.

我是Insider的視頻製作人。

One of the perks of my job is getting to eat

我工作的好處之一就是可以吃到...

at a bunch of restaurants all around the world.

在世界各地的一堆餐廳。

One of the best things I've ever eaten in my life

這是我這輩子吃過最好吃的東西之一了

was the pizza at Lucali in Brooklyn, New York.

是紐約布魯克林的盧卡利的披薩。

So good.

這麼好。

It tastes simple,

它的味道很簡單。

but just, like, the perfect version of a pizza.

但只是，像，完美版的比薩餅。

The restaurant is so popular

這家餐廳太受歡迎了

that people normally wait two or more hours

人們通常要等兩個小時或更長時間

just to put their names down to eat that day.

只是為了把自己的名字寫下來，當天吃。

[Skype ringtone]

[Skype鈴聲]

Mark: Hi.

馬克：嗨。

Herrine: Hi, how are you?

赫林：嗨，你好嗎？

Mark: How's quarantine going?

馬克：檢疫工作怎麼樣了？

[crickets chirping]

[蟋蟀的鳴叫]

Herrine: I'm trying to entertain myself.

赫林我是想自娛自樂

Mark: Where are you?

馬克：你在哪裡？

Herrine: I'm in Massachusetts now,

赫林我現在在馬薩諸塞州。

so I don't think you can really do delivery.

所以我不認為你真的能做到送貨上門。

I'm gonna be here for a while now,

我會在這裡呆上一段時間的

so I was hoping that you could teach me

所以我希望你能教我

how to make the best home version of your famous pizza.

如何做出最好的家庭版的著名披薩。

Mark: I knew there was something up.

馬克：我就知道有什麼事。

[laughing]

[笑]

Herrine: I had an ulterior motive.

赫林我有一個不可告人的動機

Is it possible to get anything

有沒有可能得到什麼

close to your pizza at home?

離你家的披薩很近？

Mark: I would definitely say yes.

馬克：我肯定會說是的。

Let's go margherita, and especially for your first one.

我們走吧，瑪格麗塔，尤其是你的第一件事。

You know, you kind of gotta, like, you know,

你知道，你必須，喜歡，你知道的。

crawl before you walk.

先爬後走

Herrine: I mean, OK.

Herrine:我是說，好吧。

Based off of

基於

how you taught me at the restaurant last time,

你上次在餐廳裡是怎麼教我的？

do you think I'll do OK?

你覺得我會做得很好嗎？

Mark: I think you'll be fine.

馬克：我想你會沒事的。

I've seen a lot of people do pizza at home,

我見過很多人在家裡做披薩。

and they just overthink it, you know.

他們只是想多了，你知道的。

I'll teach you not to do that,

我會教你不要這樣做。

and I think you'll be fine.

我想你會沒事的

First, we're going to make the dough.

首先，我們要做麵糰。

Herrine: Do you know the, like,

赫林你知道的，像。

measurements that I should be putting in?

我應該投入的測量？

Mark: I'm gonna have to get back to you on that one.

馬克：這個問題我得再給你答覆。

I just do it by hand and by eye,

我只是用手和眼睛去做。

but I'm gonna have to do it

但我必須這麼做

to give you the precise measurements.

給你精確的測量。

Herrine: So, I got all my ingredients,

赫林所以，我得到了我所有的成分。

and I got Mark's recipe.

我得到了馬克的食譜。

Everything seems pretty straightforward.

一切看起來都很簡單。

The only thing is that Mark's recipe

唯一的問題是，馬克的食譜。

makes eight pizza doughs

八寶粥

and calls for three and a half pounds of flour.

並需要三斤半的麵粉。

So what I'm gonna do

所以我要做的是

is I'm going to take Mark's measurements

我要給馬克量一下尺寸

and divide them by four,

並將其除以4。

and hopefully things will turn out OK.

並希望事情會好轉。

It's just really a leap of faith here

這真的是一種信仰的飛躍。

and, like, trusting that my math

而且，喜歡，相信我的數學。

and eyeballing skills

和目測技能

will come in for the rescue.

會來救人的。

Initially, I thought this was a little too dry,

起初，我覺得這個有點太乾了。

but it's coming together. It's a little sticky.

但它的到來一起。它有點粘。

So, I'm just supposed to knead this for 10 minutes.

所以，我只是應該 揉這個10分鐘。

I'm gonna take it out of the bowl now.

我現在要把它從碗裡拿出來。

Mark: You're looking for, like, a more,

馬克：你要找的是，像，一個更。

almost a very soft Play-Doh.

幾乎是一個非常柔軟的橡皮泥。

Herrine: This feels like soft Play-Doh.

Herrine:這感覺就像柔軟的橡皮泥

I went a little rogue,

我去了一個小流氓。

because after reading the recipe you sent me,

因為看了你發給我的菜單之後。

it called for three and a half pounds of flour,

它需要三磅半的麵粉。

and this is, like, sacred to me right now.

這是一樣，神聖的我現在。

It looks like this.

它看起來像這樣。

Mark: It looks great.

馬克：看起來很不錯。

I guess I forgot to tell you to...

我想我忘了告訴你... ...

but it's OK, it's fine.

但它的確定，它的罰款。

Herrine: What did you forget to tell me?

赫林你忘了告訴我什麼？

Mark: You gotta kind of, like, knead it a little,

馬克：你得有點，比如，揉一下。

into a ball.

成球。

You want me to show you how to do it?

你要我教你怎麼做嗎？

So, you kind of want to fold it in half, right?

所以，你有點想把它折成兩半，對嗎？

Now turn it the other way and fold it in half again.

現在把它反過來，再對摺。

Like that, yeah.

像這樣，是的。

Perfect.

完美的。

Now grab a little less.

現在少抓一點。

Grab it close to the edges and fold it under.

靠近邊緣的地方抓住它，然後把它折到下面。

All right? And then you want to turn it upside down.

好嗎？然後你想把它倒過來。

After you do that about four, five times,

在你做了大約四、五次之後。

and just, like, with your hand,

只是，喜歡，用你的手。

I don't know if you can see this,

不知道你能不能看到這個。

trying to fold and close it up on the bottom.

試圖將其摺疊併合攏在底部。

Herrine: So, because I eyeballed it, like,

赫林所以，因為我眼看著它，像。

is the texture right?

質地對嗎？

Mark: Yeah, it looks like you nailed it.

馬克：是的，看來你已經搞定了。

Now, what you want to do to prevent it from drying out

現在，你要做的是防止它變幹。

is you want to baste this in oil.

是你想用油來澆灌這個。

And then just lightly place

然後只是輕輕地放

some Saran Wrap around it,

一些Saran Wrap周圍。

and then just, like, give it some room to expand, you know.

然後只是一樣，給它一些空間 擴大，你知道的。

Herrine: You said six hours in the recipe,

赫林你在配方中說了六個小時

but, like, can I just leave this overnight?

但是，像，我可以只是離開這個過夜？

Mark: Absolutely. I prefer a longer proof.

馬克：當然。我更喜歡長一點的證明。

The temperature in the refrigerator will

冰箱裡的溫度會

slow down the rising process.

減慢上升過程。

Look, done. That's it.

你看，完成了。這就是它。

Done.

完成了

Put it in the fridge.

把它放在冰箱裡。

Why are you stressing?

你為什麼這麼緊張？

Herrine: I'm not stressing.

赫林我沒有壓力。

Mark: You made the dough fantastic.

馬克：你做的麵糰太棒了。

Herrine: I will call you tomorrow

赫林我明天給你打電話

when I'm ready to roll out the pizza

當我準備好推出比薩餅的時候

and do final assembly.

並進行最後的組裝。

Mark: OK.

馬克：好的。

Herrine: It's a new day, and let's see if they rose.

Herrine:讓我們來看看他們是否起來了。

I really don't think that they rose too much.

我真的不認為他們漲得太厲害。

I'm just gonna let them chill here

我只是要讓他們在這裡冷靜下來。

while I make the sauce.

我在做醬料的時候

How am I going to make a sauce

我要怎麼做醬料

with canned tomato sauce to taste anything like yours?

用罐裝番茄醬來嚐嚐你的味道？

So, that's the sauce that I need?

所以，這就是我需要的醬料？

Mark: Del Monte tomato sauce, yes.

馬克：德爾蒙蒂番茄醬，是的。

You're going to need about

你將需要大約

45 minutes, you know, cook time.

45分鐘，你知道，烹飪時間。

Herrine: So, I don't have Del Monte.

赫林所以，我沒有Del Monte。

I got Hunt's.

我有Hunt的。

Mark: We're gonna bring it to a boil.

我們要把它煮沸。

We're gonna put garlic, a little bit of onion,

我們要把大蒜，一點點洋蔥。

salt, pepper, basil, oregano, and a little sugar.

鹽、胡椒粉、羅勒、牛至和少許糖。

Herrine: And do I dump all of that in

赫林我把所有的東西都扔進

all at once and then let it cook?

一下子就把它煮了？

Mark: Yeah. Again, it's that easy.

馬克：是的。同樣，就是這麼簡單。

And then bring it to a boil.

然後把它煮沸。

Let it cool.

讓它冷卻。

Bring it to a second boil,

將其二次煮沸。

and just let it sit for, like, 15, 20 minutes.

只是讓它坐了一樣，15，20分鐘。

Herrine: Is there a reason why you double boil it?

赫林你為什麼要把它煮兩遍？

Mark: Yeah. I try not to overcook it.

馬克：是的，我儘量不煮過頭。

Herrine: If there's one thing that I nail on this pizza,

赫林如果有一件事是我在這個披薩上釘住的，

it's gonna be the sauce, because, from my memory,

這會是醬，因為，從我的記憶中，

this tastes almost exactly

味道差不多

like the sauce at his restaurant.

就像他餐廳的醬料一樣。

Mark: Supermarket cheese, huh.

馬克：超市的奶酪，呵呵。

You're gonna need a low-moisture, low-fat cheese.

你需要低水分、低脂肪的奶酪。

Believe it or not,

不管你信不信。

you know what works great? Polly-O.

你知道什麼東西好用嗎？波利 -O。

If you can, get buffalo mozzarella.

如果可以的話，買水牛馬蘇裡拉奶酪。

I like to use the buffalo because of its moisture content,

我喜歡用水牛，因為它的水分含量高。

which is a little higher,

這是更高一點的。

and when cooking at home, you know,

而在家裡做飯的時候，你知道。

you want to use something, you know,

你想使用的東西，你知道。

you want to add moisture to the pizza.

你想增加水分的比薩餅。

I mean, if you have access to it.

我的意思是，如果你有機會獲得它。

If not, we'll just go with the Polly-O.

如果沒有，我們就用波利歐吧。

Parmesan cheese.

帕馬森奶酪。

Herrine: Mm-hmm. Fresh Parmesan cheese?

Herrine:新鮮帕馬森奶酪？新鮮帕爾馬乾酪？

Mark: Fresh Parm.

馬克：新鮮的帕姆。

Herrine: This was what I got.

Herrine:這是我得到的。

Mark: Fantastic.

馬克：太棒了。

Herrine: And because they didn't have buffalo mozzarella,

赫林因為他們沒有水牛馬蘇裡拉奶酪。

I just got fresh mozzarella.

我剛剛買了新鮮的馬蘇裡拉奶酪。

Mark: Perfect.

馬克：完美。

Herrine: That'll do?

赫林可以了嗎？

Mark: That'll do.

馬克：這樣就可以了。

What do you think are, like, the biggest mistakes

你認為最大的錯誤是什麼？

that people do making pizza at home?

人們在家裡做比薩餅？

Mark: Everything needs to be prepared.

記：一切都要準備好。

Herrine: Am I shredding all the cheeses?

Herrine:我是不是把所有的奶酪都切成了絲？

Mark: You can shred.

馬克：你可以撕碎。

I like to just slice it.

我喜歡直接切開。

Herrine: That seems thin enough.

赫林看起來夠薄了。

Mark: We're gonna break up some buffalo.

馬克：我們要去打碎一些水牛。

Herrine: So, I'm just gonna hand-tear this.

Herrine:所以，我只是要手撕這個。

Mark: You can grate some Parmesan cheese

馬克：你可以磨一些帕爾馬乾酪。

and have it ready for when the pizza comes out,

併為比薩餅出爐時做好準備。

and we're just gonna sprinkle it on top.

我們只是要去灑在上面。

Herrine: Mark said that I need a full wine bottle

赫林馬克說我需要一整瓶酒

to roll out the dough.

擀開面團。

Mark: You're gonna need to use a wine bottle, probably,

馬克：你可能需要用一個酒瓶。

because the dough is very hard, because it's so cold.

因為麵糰很硬，因為太冷了。

Herrine: The bad news is I forgot

赫林壞消息是我忘了

and drank the bottle I was gonna use.

並喝下了我要用的瓶子。

So I need to go buy a new one.

所以我需要去買一個新的。

I got the wine bottle,

我拿到了酒瓶。

and now I'm ready to roll my pizza.

現在我準備好了，我的比薩餅。

Everything so far has gone surprisingly well.

到目前為止，一切都出乎意料的順利。

The tomato sauce that I made,

我做的番茄醬。

it tastes very similar to yours.

它的味道很像你的。

Mark: Good, good. That's what we were hoping for.

馬克：好，好。這正是我們所希望的。

Herrine: I have my oven on 500.

Herrine:我的烤箱在500度

I have my baking pan.

我有我的烤盤。

Mark: Wait, what's that for?

馬克：等等，那是幹什麼的？

Herrine: You said to cook it on the baking pan.

赫林你說要在烤盤上煮。

Mark: Yeah, but that baking pan needs to be in the oven.

馬克：是的，但那個烤盤需要放在烤箱裡。

It needs to be hot.

它需要是熱的。

Don't burn yourself!

不要燒傷自己！

[oven clattering]

[烤箱轔轔]

Herrine: Quick question. Does it matter, like,

赫林快速的問題。這重要嗎，比如。

what rack it's on in the oven?

它在烤箱的什麼架子上？

Mark: I think you said your heat source was from the top,

馬克：我想你說過你的熱源是來自頂部。

so we want to go low.

所以我們要低調行事。

Herrine: Oh, OK, so the very lowest rack?

赫林哦，好的，所以最下面的架子？

Mark: Yeah.

馬克：是的。

Herrine: So, I took the dough out of the fridge.

赫林所以，我把麵糰從冰箱裡拿出來。

Looks like this.

看起來像這樣。

Mark: Looks good.

馬克：看起來不錯。

Except for that little hole you put in there yesterday.

除了你昨天放進去的那個小洞。

You got bubbles on it?

上面有氣泡嗎？

You just pressed on something.

你剛剛按了什麼東西。

Herrine: I don't really see any bubbles.

赫林我真的沒看到任何氣泡。

Mark: OK, good.

馬克：好，很好。

Herrine: Is that a good thing?

赫林這是件好事嗎？

Mark: Yeah.

馬克：是的。

Herrine: Oh, OK.

女主人：哦，好的。

Yeah. Mark: Ready to rock.

是啊。準備好搖滾。

Herrine: Yes.

Herrine:是的。

Mark: We're ready to roll.

馬克：我們已經準備好了。

Herrine: We're ready to roll.

Herrine:我們準備好了

Mark: You got your wine bottle?

馬克：你有酒瓶嗎？

Or your rolling pin?

還是你的擀麵杖？

Herrine: Yes.

Herrine:是的。

Mark: Perfect, all right.

馬克：完美，好的。

Dip the dough in the flour.

將麵糰蘸上面粉。

Flour it up.

麵粉了。

Both sides, get it all floured, the whole thing.

兩邊都要弄得面面俱到，整整齊齊。

Throw some flour on the counter.

在櫃檯上扔一些麵粉。

You're going to roll the dough now.

你現在要去擀麵皮了。

Kind of place the bottle in the center.

樣把瓶子放在中間。

Right now - I mean, grab the bottle like, you know....

現在 - 我的意思是，抓住瓶子一樣，你知道....。

Herrine: Oh, like this?

赫林哦，像這樣？

Mark: I'm trying to figure out what your left...

我想知道你的左...

your watch is on your left?

你的手錶是在你的左邊？

Herrine: This is my left. This is my right.

Herrine:這是我的左邊。這是我的右邊。

Mark: OK, so hold onto the neck of the bottle

馬克：好的，那就抓緊瓶頸吧。

with your left hand,

用你的左手。

and kinda grab, but stick your finger -

和有點搶，但堅持你的手指 -

is it a hollowed-out bottle?

是一個空心瓶嗎？

Herrine: Yes.

Herrine:是的。

Mark: Yeah, just, like, stick a few fingers in there

馬克：是的，就像，在那裡插幾根手指。

and put, you know, this part of your hand

並把，你知道，你的手的這一部分，。

on top of the bottle.

在瓶子的頂部。

There you go.

這就對了

Press and roll out. Herrine: Like this?

按，然後滾出去。Herrine:像這樣？

OK.

好的

Mark: Move away from you.

馬克：離你遠點。